Confederate Emblems to be Removed Nationwide.

[USS Monitor]

Why?

It's called technology.

Technology is a Yankee abomination! Did you know they put WOMEN to work in their textile mills?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yeah it would have made it more profitable to keep slaves using the new technology.

And this technology didn't need any one to man it.

Drones and AIs are a 21st century invention. So we would have waited 200 years to actually see slavery gone?

[Dyakovo]

Yeah it would have made it more profitable to keep slaves using the new technology.

And this technology didn't need any one to man it.

So basically your claim has shifted from "they would have eliminated slavery eventually" to "while they would have eliminated slavery eventually, it wouldn't have happened yet"....

[Laerod]

Congratulations on guessing wrong?

Comgratualtions for me getting it right.

Don't lie. Relevance in this context is established by fact. You're speculating on things that never happened and have failed to present any meaningful facts to support your suppositions. In fact, it appears as if you've presented your conclusion (that slavery would have eventually died out) and arranged your "facts" ("tractors") to support it. This is intellectually dishonest, useless, and thus irrelevant.

[Omega America II]

It would've eventually, with enough change in technology, they wouldn't be able to continue with slavery, if more advanced technology made it more profitable to farm.

Advanced technology had already made it more profitable to farm without slaves. They hadn't changed.

You just don't get it. Jeez. I'm talking around two hundred years or so. I mean come on by then they could have drone to do it, which would be easier. Just because they didn't use it then doesn't mean they wouldn't use it two hundred years later.

[USS Monitor]

Technology had already made things easier, and yet there was no decline.

But think way ahead.
Let's say farmers are using tractors (In which they still do), and they tried to succede to protect their tractors (Bear with me here), and banned it to ban them. Then, a century later, huge more better technologies come along, and tractors are useless, so they change the cosmtituto news for the new technology. Make better sense?

You don't have to ban tractors to start using a newer kind of farm machinery that works better.

[Dyakovo]

Advanced technology had already made it more profitable to farm without slaves. They hadn't changed.

You just don't get it. Jeez. I'm talking around two hundred years or so. I mean come on by then they could have drone to do it, which would be easier. Just because they didn't use it then doesn't mean they wouldn't use it two hundred years later.

It makes your claims suspect.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Congratulations on guessing wrong?

Comgratualtions for me getting it right.

Here, have a consolation prize.

Yeah it would have made it more profitable to keep slaves using the new technology.

And this technology didn't need any one to man it.

Bullshit.

[Laerod]

Advanced technology had already made it more profitable to farm without slaves. They hadn't changed.

You just don't get it. Jeez. I'm talking around two hundred years or so. I mean come on by then they could have drone to do it, which would be easier. Just because they didn't use it then doesn't mean they wouldn't use it two hundred years later.

So in other words you're saying slavery might be abolished in 2060 had the South won? No thanks.

[Omega America II]

Comgratualtions for me getting it right.

Don't lie. Relevance in this context is established by fact. You're speculating on things that never happened and have failed to present any meaningful facts to support your suppositions. In fact, it appears as if you've presented your conclusion (that slavery would have eventually died out) and arranged your "facts" ("tractors") to support it. This is intellectually dishonest, useless, and thus irrelevant.

You are frustrating. Actually out of everyone else, you frustrate me. Congratulations on that.
It isn't a lie neither is it truth. It has a purpose, as to show you it could've died out, and it truth relevant to this argument.

[Omega America II]

You just don't get it. Jeez. I'm talking around two hundred years or so. I mean come on by then they could have drone to do it, which would be easier. Just because they didn't use it then doesn't mean they wouldn't use it two hundred years later.

So in other words you're saying slavery might be abolished in 2060 had the South won? No thanks.

No thanks what? It still would've died out, I didn't say quickly did I?

[USS Monitor]

That happened sometime in the first half of the 19th century.



But that didn't happen in the South.

It would've eventually, with enough change in technology, they wouldn't be able to continue with slavery, if more advanced technology made it more profitable to farm.

The North was already beating them out in terms of agricultural productivity, but they were still determined to keep slavery.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

What other things can it be remembered for?

If slavery would not have continued for a very long time, anyway, then why did the Confederate Constitution prohibit the national and state governments from passing any laws prohibiting the practice of slavery or the slave trade in the states of the Confederacy, and in any new territories acquired by the Confederacy?

It most likely would've dissolved after a while. Really, it most likely would've.

That's a reassertion of previously stated views, not a response to anything that I asked.

[Omega America II]

Comgratualtions for me getting it right.

Here, have a consolation prize.

And this technology didn't need any one to man it.

Bullshit.

You wanna go with bullshit.
I'm talking two hundred years after. So how about look at my other posts before yelling "bullshit"

[The Empire of Pretantia]

So in other words you're saying slavery might be abolished in 2060 had the South won? No thanks.

No thanks what? It still would've died out, I didn't say quickly did I?

A good thing the South lost then. Sped the process up.

[Omega America II]

It would've eventually, with enough change in technology, they wouldn't be able to continue with slavery, if more advanced technology made it more profitable to farm.

The North was already beating them out in terms of agricultural productivity, but they were still determined to keep slavery.

Good Lord none of you seem to get it. I'm talking hundred years in advance! That was then, it's called change.

[Laerod]

Don't lie. Relevance in this context is established by fact. You're speculating on things that never happened and have failed to present any meaningful facts to support your suppositions. In fact, it appears as if you've presented your conclusion (that slavery would have eventually died out) and arranged your "facts" ("tractors") to support it. This is intellectually dishonest, useless, and thus irrelevant.

You are frustrating. Actually out of everyone else, you frustrate me. Congratulations on that.
It isn't a lie neither is it truth. It has a purpose, as to show you it could've died out, and it truth relevant to this argument.

If you're talking about uncertainties as though they were fact, you are telling lies. It's speculation, and while we cannot know for sure, we can make educated guesses based on evidence.

But it's largely irrelevant because we're discussing what the flag represents, not what it might have represented.

[Omega America II]

No thanks what? It still would've died out, I didn't say quickly did I?

A good thing the South lost then. Sped the process up.

Yes, but is still would've died.

[Omega America II]

You are frustrating. Actually out of everyone else, you frustrate me. Congratulations on that.
It isn't a lie neither is it truth. It has a purpose, as to show you it could've died out, and it truth relevant to this argument.

If you're talking about uncertainties as though they were fact, you are telling lies. It's speculation, and while we cannot know for sure, we can make educated guesses based on evidence.

But it's largely irrelevant because we're discussing what the flag represents, not what it might have represented.

Actually that's a good point, we are of topic.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Here, have a consolation prize.

Bullshit.

You wanna go with bullshit.
I'm talking two hundred years after. So how about look at my other posts before yelling "bullshit"

Two hundred years later, technology would still be manned.

[Dyakovo]

A good thing the South lost then. Sped the process up.

Yes, but is still would've died.

So you claim.
Their resistance to doing that makes said claim suspect.

[Laerod]

So in other words you're saying slavery might be abolished in 2060 had the South won? No thanks.

No thanks what? It still would've died out, I didn't say quickly did I?

In our timeline, slavery was abolished 160 years ago in the US. This is preferable to still waiting for it to be abolished today.

[Omega America II]

You wanna go with bullshit.
I'm talking two hundred years after. So how about look at my other posts before yelling "bullshit"

Two hundred years later, technology would still be manned.

2060? How would you know? It might be unmanned. We have drones. We have lawn mowers that are unmanned. Why not farming machines?

[USS Monitor]

You just don't get it. Jeez. I'm talking around two hundred years or so. I mean come on by then they could have drone to do it, which would be easier. Just because they didn't use it then doesn't mean they wouldn't use it two hundred years later.

So in other words you're saying slavery might be abolished in 2060 had the South won? No thanks.

They'd take longer than that to develop drones with their anti-industrialist attitude delaying technological advancement.

[Omega America II]

No thanks what? It still would've died out, I didn't say quickly did I?

In our timeline, slavery was abolished 160 years ago in the US. This is preferable to still waiting for it to be abolished today.

You don't know. With technology, comes change, and some things you have to accept.