Confederate Emblems to be Removed Nationwide.

[Dyakovo]

And you base that on what exactly?

I base it on the fact that over time, things change, and it would've dissolved sooner or later.

And how would these changes come about? Be specific.
100 years after slavery was abolished by the Thirteenth Amendment, sizable portions of the (white) populations of the states that made up the CSA still considered blacks to be inferior to whites. So why would this attitude have changed more quickly without the impetus of the institution being outlawed?

[Laerod]

He's made grammatical errors before. Finding flaws in his arguments is much more difficult.

It's a once in a lifetime event, Dyak. Let's just sit back end enjoy it for a little while.

Except he misspelled "coast" in the post prior to that one, so you are entirely incorrect =P

[The Cobalt Sky]

It's a once in a lifetime event, Dyak. Let's just sit back end enjoy it for a little while.

Except he misspelled "coast" in the post prior to that one, so you are entirely incorrect =P

OH MY GOD! MULTIPLE OVER SUCH A SHORT TIME SPAN-- THIS IS CLEARLY A SIGN OF THE END TIMES!

[Laerod]

I base it on the fact that over time, things change, and it would've dissolved sooner or later.

Indeed. The US has stopped using the dollar and moved election day to something far more convenient than the tuesday after the first monday in November for precisely this reason.

[USS Monitor]

Many of the older plantations (especially in Virginia and the Carolinas) had soil depletion issues that reduced their productivity. These issues were compounded by large slave populations that, if not properly managed, would increase labor costs to the point where such plantations might be threatened with bankruptcy.

The solution to this was established well before the War of the Rebellion: The older plantations supplemented their diminishing agricultural output by selling surplus slaves to the newer plantations further west, in Alabama, Mississippi, and beyond. This internal slave market kept plantations in the older States going economically, but it also effectively meant that slaves weren't just valuable as agricultural labor, but were effectively valuable as a tangible asset in and of themselves.

That explains why they got so upset about Northerners trying to stop the expansion of slavery, even if nobody was trying to take away the slaves from the states that already had it. If they stopped getting new slave states, they'd eventually run out of new plantations to supply.

[USS Monitor]

What other things can it be remembered for?

If slavery would not have continued for a very long time, anyway, then why did the Confederate Constitution prohibit the national and state governments from passing any laws prohibiting the practice of slavery or the slave trade in the states of the Confederacy, and in any new territories acquired by the Confederacy?

It most likely would've dissolved after a while. Really, it most likely would've.

Why?

[Omega America II]

I base it on the fact that over time, things change, and it would've dissolved sooner or later.

And how would these changes come about? Be specific.
100 years after slavery was abolished by the Thirteenth Amendment, sizable portions of the (white) populations of the states that made up the CSA still considered blacks to be inferior to whites. So why would this attitude have changed more quickly without the impetus of the institution being outlawed?

I couldn't tell you the exact changes because the CSA never won independence. I didn't say things would've changed in a short period of time. Over time, technology would've made it easier to do work without slaves, so slavery would disappear and technology would take their place.

[Omega America II]

It most likely would've dissolved after a while. Really, it most likely would've.

Why?

It's called technology.

[Dyakovo]

And how would these changes come about? Be specific.
100 years after slavery was abolished by the Thirteenth Amendment, sizable portions of the (white) populations of the states that made up the CSA still considered blacks to be inferior to whites. So why would this attitude have changed more quickly without the impetus of the institution being outlawed?

I couldn't tell you the exact changes because the CSA never won independence. I didn't say things would've changed in a short period of time. Over time, technology would've made it easier to do work without slaves, so slavery would disappear and technology would take their place.

Technology had already made things easier, and yet there was no decline.

[Laerod]

And how would these changes come about? Be specific.
100 years after slavery was abolished by the Thirteenth Amendment, sizable portions of the (white) populations of the states that made up the CSA still considered blacks to be inferior to whites. So why would this attitude have changed more quickly without the impetus of the institution being outlawed?

I couldn't tell you the exact changes because the CSA never won independence.

Yeah, that is a good point. We shouldn't credit the CSA with abolishing slavery because it never did.

[USS Monitor]

Except he misspelled "coast" in the post prior to that one, so you are entirely incorrect =P

OH MY GOD! MULTIPLE OVER SUCH A SHORT TIME SPAN-- THIS IS CLEARLY A SIGN OF THE END TIMES!

No, it's totally normal. ASB usually knows what he's talking about and does a good job of arguing his case, but he makes typos fairly often.

[Omega America II]

I couldn't tell you the exact changes because the CSA never won independence. I didn't say things would've changed in a short period of time. Over time, technology would've made it easier to do work without slaves, so slavery would disappear and technology would take their place.

Technology had already made things easier, and yet there was no decline.

But think way ahead.
Let's say farmers are using tractors (In which they still do), and they tried to succede to protect their tractors (Bear with me here), and banned it to ban them. Then, a century later, huge more better technologies come along, and tractors are useless, so they change the cosmtituto news for the new technology. Make better sense?

[Omega America II]

I couldn't tell you the exact changes because the CSA never won independence.

Yeah, that is a good point. We shouldn't credit the CSA with abolishing slavery because it never did.

It would've dissolved eventually.

[Laerod]

Yeah, that is a good point. We shouldn't credit the CSA with abolishing slavery because it never did.

It would've dissolved eventually.

Unproven and utterly irrelevant.

[Dyakovo]

Technology had already made things easier, and yet there was no decline.

But think way ahead.
Let's say farmers are using tractors (In which they still do), and they tried to succede to protect their tractors (Bear with me here), and banned it to ban them. Then, a century later, huge more better technologies come along, and tractors are useless, so they change the cosmtituto news for the new technology. Make better sense?

People succeed in using their tractors all the time.
Also, no, you're still not making any sense.

[Omega America II]

It would've dissolved eventually.

Unproven and utterly irrelevant.

Then I guess just about everything is irrevelant.

[Omega America II]

But think way ahead.
Let's say farmers are using tractors (In which they still do), and they tried to succede to protect their tractors (Bear with me here), and banned it to ban them. Then, a century later, huge more better technologies come along, and tractors are useless, so they change the cosmtituto news for the new technology. Make better sense?

People succeed in using their tractors all the time.
Also, no, you're still not making any sense.

I mean better technologies, way more advanced technology would've made slavery useless.

[USS Monitor]

And how would these changes come about? Be specific.
100 years after slavery was abolished by the Thirteenth Amendment, sizable portions of the (white) populations of the states that made up the CSA still considered blacks to be inferior to whites. So why would this attitude have changed more quickly without the impetus of the institution being outlawed?

I couldn't tell you the exact changes because the CSA never won independence. I didn't say things would've changed in a short period of time. Over time, technology would've made it easier to do work without slaves,

That happened sometime in the first half of the 19th century.

so slavery would disappear and technology would take their place.

But that didn't happen in the South.

[Laerod]

Unproven and utterly irrelevant.

Then I guess just about everything is irrevelant.

Congratulations on guessing wrong?

[Omega America II]

I couldn't tell you the exact changes because the CSA never won independence. I didn't say things would've changed in a short period of time. Over time, technology would've made it easier to do work without slaves,

That happened sometime in the first half of the 19th century.

so slavery would disappear and technology would take their place.

But that didn't happen in the South.

It would've eventually, with enough change in technology, they wouldn't be able to continue with slavery, if more advanced technology made it more profitable to farm.

[Omega America II]

Then I guess just about everything is irrevelant.

Congratulations on guessing wrong?

Comgratualtions for me getting it right.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

That happened sometime in the first half of the 19th century.



But that didn't happen in the South.

It would've eventually, with enough change in technology, they wouldn't be able to continue with slavery, if more advanced technology made it more profitable to farm.

Not necessarily.

They'd have just made slaves to operate the machinery and technology. Contrary to what you might believe, slavery only means you don't have to pay for employee costs (or human capital), since you can provide what you think are their basic necessities. That doesn't mean new technology would devastate slavery.

[Washington Resistance Army]

That happened sometime in the first half of the 19th century.



But that didn't happen in the South.

It would've eventually, with enough change in technology, they wouldn't be able to continue with slavery, if more advanced technology made it more profitable to farm.

Yeah it would have made it more profitable to keep slaves using the new technology.

[Dyakovo]

That happened sometime in the first half of the 19th century.



But that didn't happen in the South.

It would've eventually, with enough change in technology, they wouldn't be able to continue with slavery, if more advanced technology made it more profitable to farm.

Advanced technology had already made it more profitable to farm without slaves. They hadn't changed.

[Omega America II]

It would've eventually, with enough change in technology, they wouldn't be able to continue with slavery, if more advanced technology made it more profitable to farm.

Yeah it would have made it more profitable to keep slaves using the new technology.

And this technology didn't need any one to man it.