Ukraine Megathread: Crimea River Part Deux

by **Aurum Reich** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:44 am

The blame falls not on Putin , not on the rebels, not onKiev, and for once not on Mossad. It falls on Obama the worst president. The CIA was active in the Ukraine before this all started. Of course Obama wants to turn people who would be our friends into a divided nation. Screwing our allies over and sabotaging America has been his foreign policy from the start. You can't blame Putin for taking advantage of an opportunity created by our president's post colonial agenda of treason and balkanization. If Russia was our friend Obama would ensure that they had rebels taking their land and going over to the Ukraine or Chechnya or wherever. Because he just hates freedom that much.

The only solution is to elect Ben Carson.

by **Vassenor** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:48 am

Aurum Reich wrote:The blame falls not on Putin , not on the rebels, not onKiev, and for once not on Mossad. It falls on Obama the worst president. The CIA was active in the Ukraine before this all started. Of course Obama wants to turn people who would be our friends into a divided nation. Screwing our allies over and sabotaging America has been his foreign policy from the start. You can't blame Putin for taking advantage of an opportunity created by our president's post colonial agenda of treason and balkanization. If Russia was our friend Obama would ensure that they had rebels taking their land and going over to the Ukraine or Chechnya or wherever. Because he just hates freedom that much.

The only solution is to elect Ben Carson.

I'm not sure I understand your logic.

by **Aurum Reich** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:06 am

Vassenor wrote:
Aurum Reich wrote:The blame falls not on Putin , not on the rebels, not onKiev, and for once not on Mossad. It falls on Obama the worst president. The CIA was active in the Ukraine before this all started. Of course Obama wants to turn people who would be our friends into a divided nation. Screwing our allies over and sabotaging America has been his foreign policy from the start. You can't blame Putin for taking advantage of an opportunity created by our president's post colonial agenda of treason and balkanization. If Russia was our friend Obama would ensure that they had rebels taking their land and going over to the Ukraine or Chechnya or wherever. Because he just hates freedom that much.

The only solution is to elect Ben Carson.

I'm not sure I understand your logic.

Obama made euromaidan and the rebels. He created a crisis out of his deep hatred of freedom.

by **Vassenor** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:13 am

Aurum Reich wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I'm not sure I understand your logic.

Obama made euromaidan and the rebels. He created a crisis out of his deep hatred of freedom.

[citation needed]

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:17 am

Aurum Reich wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I'm not sure I understand your logic.

Obama made euromaidan and the rebels. He created a crisis out of his deep hatred of freedom.

But does the Illuminati have one eye?

The Truth is out there.

by **Korva** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:20 am

Footage from Rapid Trident 2015, which is being held in Western Ukraine.

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:21 am

Korva wrote:Footage from Rapid Trident 2015, which is being held in Western Ukraine.

When the hell did Nato get a youtube channel?

by **The Krogan** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:24 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Korva wrote:Footage from Rapid Trident 2015, which is being held in Western Ukraine.

When the hell did Nato get a youtube channel?

Everybody has a youtube channel.

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:24 am

The Krogan wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:When the hell did Nato get a youtube channel?

Everybody has a youtube channel.

Apparently so....

still random.

by **Wolfmanne** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:24 am

Aurum Reich wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I'm not sure I understand your logic.

Obama made euromaidan and the rebels. He created a crisis out of his deep hatred of freedom.

Was he responsible for the Orange Revolution too?

by **The Krogan** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:27 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Krogan wrote:
Everybody has a youtube channel.

Apparently so....

still random.

Ehhh lot's of military's and things use youtube for promotional purposes.

by **Novus America** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:04 am

Vassenor wrote:
Aurum Reich wrote:Obama made euromaidan and the rebels. He created a crisis out of his deep hatred of freedom.

[citation needed]

Yeah, I dislike Obama, but that is total BS. Obama is weak and naïve, but not trying to kill freedom or whatever that was.

by **Geilinor** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:31 pm

Novus America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
[citation needed]

Yeah, I dislike Obama, but that is total BS. Obama is weak and naïve, but not trying to kill freedom or whatever that was.

Obama's less naive than Bush was going into Iraq.

by **Aurum Reich** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:38 pm

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Wolfmanne wrote:
Aurum Reich wrote:Obama made euromaidan and the rebels. He created a crisis out of his deep hatred of freedom.

Was he responsible for the Orange Revolution too?

Most likely it was a decent CIA thing. Everything was going ok until Obama got his hands on the situation.

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:39 pm

Aurum Reich wrote:[code][/code]
Wolfmanne wrote:Was he responsible for the Orange Revolution too?

Most likely it was a decent CIA thing. Everything was going ok until Obama got his hands on the situation.

Riiight.

by **Vassenor** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:02 am

Dear god some people out there are petty.

"Russia Burns Dutch Flowers Amid Netherlands’ Inquiry Into Malaysia Airlines Crash"

by **Bratislavskaya** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:36 am

Vassenor wrote:Dear god some people out there are petty.

"Russia Burns Dutch Flowers Amid Netherlands’ Inquiry Into Malaysia Airlines Crash"

So one former MP from United Russia says it was to do with MH 17, "but cannot say so directly". So they have no evidence to actually suggest that it has anything to do with that, other than one former MP who didn't actually say that.
Dear God some people out there are petty.

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:52 am

Vassenor wrote:Dear god some people out there are petty.

"Russia Burns Dutch Flowers Amid Netherlands’ Inquiry Into Malaysia Airlines Crash"

Oh for the love of... :palm:

by **Farnhamia** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:54 am

Bratislavskaya wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Dear god some people out there are petty.

"Russia Burns Dutch Flowers Amid Netherlands’ Inquiry Into Malaysia Airlines Crash"

So one former MP from United Russia says it was to do with MH 17, "but cannot say so directly". So they have no evidence to actually suggest that it has anything to do with that, other than one former MP who didn't actually say that.
Dear God some people out there are petty.

“This is connected to the Malaysian Boeing,” Sergei A. Markov, a former member of Parliament in the pro-government United Russia party, said in a telephone interview. “Russia is certain that the Dutch government is falsifying this investigation,” he said, but cannot say so directly.

The stepped-up flower inspections, he said, are the Kremlin’s means of communicating displeasure with the inquiry.

“It is an attempt to talk in not such an obvious way, softly, a bit byzantine,” Mr. Markov said of the message of the flower burning. “I generally like byzantine. But this is not a great quality in this case. Our diplomats should have just called things by their names.”

Markov is saying that Russia is certain. but cannot say so directly, that the investigation is being rigged. Not that he can't say so.

by **Vassenor** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:55 am

I didn't actually see that bit. I thought it was just ordinary citizens going for a really passive-aggressive method of protest.

by **Conserative Morality** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:03 pm

Anyone else remember when the Ukranian government hadn't done anything terrible yet and Russia hadn't blatantly violated international law?

Good times. Really makes one nostalgic for early 2014.

by **Estruia** » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:27 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Anyone else remember when the Ukranian government hadn't done anything terrible yet and Russia hadn't blatantly violated international law?

Good times. Really makes one nostalgic for early 2014.

Then everything changed, when the Fire Nation attacked.

by **Shofercia** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:34 am

New Werpland wrote:Oh yes we pro west hypocrites forgot about Russia's inalienable right to eliminate traitors, oops.

All countries do that. Furthermore, rights are attributed to people, not countries.

Wolfmanne wrote:
Aurum Reich wrote:Obama made euromaidan and the rebels. He created a crisis out of his deep hatred of freedom.

Was he responsible for the Orange Revolution too?

USAID partially funded, and Obama politically supported organizations that conducted the overthrow of the Yanukovich Government.

Novus America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
[citation needed]

Yeah, I dislike Obama, but that is total BS. Obama is weak and naïve, but not trying to kill freedom or whatever that was.

Obama is a naive motherfucker, but how the fuck is he weak?

Geilinor wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Yeah, I dislike Obama, but that is total BS. Obama is weak and naïve, but not trying to kill freedom or whatever that was.

Obama's less naive than Bush was going into Iraq.

You know their presidents are naive, when Liberals are comparing them to Dubya

Vassenor wrote:Dear god some people out there are petty.

"Russia Burns Dutch Flowers Amid Netherlands’ Inquiry Into Malaysia Airlines Crash"

Wow, what nice bit of Yellow Journalism there, Hearst must be jealous. Russia burned Dutch flowers because the EU, led by Germany, extended their embargo on the day that Nazi Germany invaded Russia, not because of the MH-17 Investigation. Oh New York Times, you're certainly as "Fair and Balanced" as Fox News.

Conserative Morality wrote:Anyone else remember when the Ukranian government hadn't done anything terrible yet and Russia hadn't blatantly violated international law?

Good times. Really makes one nostalgic for early 2014.

Yeah, who needs democratic elections when you can institute a coup and give Neo-Nazis like Tignyabok some power? It's just Obama's Birthpangs of Democracy moment, 2.0, since 1.0 was Libya.

by **New Werpland** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:09 am

Shofercia wrote:
New Werpland wrote:Oh yes we pro west hypocrites forgot about Russia's inalienable right to eliminate traitors, oops.

All countries do that.

No they don't.

by **Shofercia** » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:25 am

New Werpland wrote:
Shofercia wrote:All countries do that.

No they don't.

So if an ex-CIA agent working for the FSB, traveled to another country to recruit another CIA agent to work for the FSB, you wouldn't want the CIA to eliminate him, if bringing him in wasn't possible? You'd go "oh hey there, by all means, please continue to backstab us and spy on us old chap", is that it?

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