Ukraine Megathread: Crimea River Part Deux

[Vassenor]

Serves the Russians right for stomping on another sovereign nation just because they didn't agree with the change in government.

Now now, a minor territorial dispute in a former Soviet Satellite state is no excuse to break a contract.

It is when one of the parties in the contract gets subjected to an arms embargo as a result of them being dicks to their neighbours.

[United Marxist Nations]

France just bought two Mistral heli-carriers.

Good.

huehuehue, you realize they bought them from Russia, yes? I.e., Russia gets the full value of them.

[Vassenor]

Good.

huehuehue, you realize they bought them from Russia, yes? I.e., Russia gets the full value of them.

So Russia has a few million dollars kicking around to feed its rampant kleptocracy. So what?

[United Marxist Nations]

huehuehue, you realize they bought them from Russia, yes? I.e., Russia gets the full value of them.

So Russia has a few million dollars kicking around to feed its rampant kleptocracy. So what?

More like 1.2 billion. Which Russia can then use to further expand its military, huehuehue.

[New Werpland]

Good.

huehuehue, you realize they bought them from Russia, yes? I.e., Russia gets the full value of them.

Maybe they can start a polonium tea shop chain with those 1.2 billion euros.

Better than them getting military equipment.

[Vassenor]

So Russia has a few million dollars kicking around to feed its rampant kleptocracy. So what?

More like 1.2 billion. Which Russia can then use to further expand its military, huehuehue.

Now why would they need to do that if they're not planning on going anywhere?

[The balkens]

Good.

huehuehue, you realize they bought them from Russia, yes? I.e., Russia gets the full value of them.

And?

Why do i care that Russia gets some cash from Carriers that it had the french built?

After all, its not like they get to use them.

[The balkens]

So Russia has a few million dollars kicking around to feed its rampant kleptocracy. So what?

More like 1.2 billion. Which Russia can then use to further expand its military, huehuehue.

Exchange rate to rubble plz.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Now now, a minor territorial dispute in a former Soviet Satellite state is no excuse to break a contract.

It is when one of the parties in the contract gets subjected to an arms embargo as a result of them being dicks to their neighbours.

The French were more then willing to ignore this untill the US/UK complained. All of this is odd given how little Crimea matters to any of us in the West.

[United Marxist Nations]

More like 1.2 billion. Which Russia can then use to further expand its military, huehuehue.

Now why would they need to do that if they're not planning on going anywhere?

Well, considering they are getting the money back from a plan to expand its military, I don't think it would be crazy to think they would try to recoup their losses. like, maybe replacing the aging Admiral Kuznetsov.

[Geilinor]

And Russians tend to vote for leaders that improve our standard of living; if you think that's "brainwashed", well then, I'm glad that the Balts are so "enlightened" as to choose a demographic meltdown and austerity.

Speaking of the Baltics:
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/lithuania/gdp-per-capita
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/latvia/gdp-per-capita-ppp
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/estonia/gdp-per-capita

It looks like they've been doing fine for the past 23 years. But I guess Russia knows better? Should I show you what happened to Russia in the '90s? Oh, you know?

[The balkens]

It is when one of the parties in the contract gets subjected to an arms embargo as a result of them being dicks to their neighbours.

The French were more then willing to ignore this untill the US/UK complained. All of this is odd given how little Crimea matters to any of us in the West.

French love making money, same as everyone else. news @ eleven.

[United Marxist Nations]

More like 1.2 billion. Which Russia can then use to further expand its military, huehuehue.

Exchange rate to rubble plz.

Since you don't use the Ruble, why would that matter??? Wouldn't a conversion to Euros be more useful?

[Byzantium Imperial]

The French were more then willing to ignore this untill the US/UK complained. All of this is odd given how little Crimea matters to any of us in the West.

French love making money, same as everyone else. news @ eleven.

Sounds like a mutually beneficial arrangement to me derailed by powers with no stake in it over an issue that matters little to the west.

[The balkens]

Exchange rate to rubble plz.

Since you don't use the Ruble, why would that matter??? Wouldn't a conversion to Euros be more useful?

But Russians do.
Unless they are using dollars again.

[Prassia]

It's hard to vote against something when people have a gun to your head.

This was Before any Russian Soldier saw Crimea.

Your capitalization makes Russian Jesus cry.

[United Marxist Nations]

Since you don't use the Ruble, why would that matter??? Wouldn't a conversion to Euros be more useful?

But Russians do.
Unless they are using dollars again.

Well, they are getting it in Euros.

[The balkens]

French love making money, same as everyone else. news @ eleven.

Sounds like a mutually beneficial arrangement to me derailed by powers with no stake in it over an issue that matters little to the west.

which would make Russia a larger threat to Europe, the Baltics and any one else who is not on their "Nations that worship the ground we march on" list.

[Costa Fierro]

So Russia has a few million dollars kicking around to feed its rampant kleptocracy. So what?

More like 1.2 billion. Which Russia can then use to further expand its military, huehuehue.

Perhaps Russia could look to spend a few billion on much better things? Such as infrastructure? Education? Healthcare?

[Byzantium Imperial]

Sounds like a mutually beneficial arrangement to me derailed by powers with no stake in it over an issue that matters little to the west.

which would make Russia a larger threat to Europe, the Baltics and any one else who is not on their "Nations that worship the ground we march on" list.

Because two helicopter carrrying cruisers will suddenly shift the balance of power in favor of the Russians. Yes, this makes perfect sense: everyone knows Russia is only two ships away from global domination.Its not like we could just chuck a missile at them and be done with it.

[The balkens]

More like 1.2 billion. Which Russia can then use to further expand its military, huehuehue.

Perhaps Russia could look to spend a few billion on much better things? Such as infrastructure? Education? Healthcare?

Remember Costa, the Russian government cares more about you if you're a Russian living outside of Russia.

Or one of their fanboys rather.

[United Marxist Nations]

More like 1.2 billion. Which Russia can then use to further expand its military, huehuehue.

Perhaps Russia could look to spend a few billion on much better things? Such as infrastructure? Education? Healthcare?

Like I said, this is just a refund for what Russia has already spent; it would still go to military spending. Plus, they now have all the equipment that was in the ships, and now nothing to do with them. As far as education goes, IIRC, Russia already spends more on education than on the military.

[New Werpland]

which would make Russia a larger threat to Europe, the Baltics and any one else who is not on their "Nations that worship the ground we march on" list.

Because two helicopter carrrying cruisers will suddenly shift the balance of power in favor of the Russians. Yes, this makes perfect sense: everyone knows Russia is only two ships away from global domination.Its not like we could just chuck a missile at them and be done with it.

Why would you want to make them harder to control?

[The balkens]

Because two helicopter carrrying cruisers will suddenly shift the balance of power in favor of the Russians. Yes, this makes perfect sense: everyone knows Russia is only two ships away from global domination.Its not like we could just chuck a missile at them and be done with it.

Why would you want to make them harder to control?

Russian Imperialism. *nods*

[New Werpland]

Perhaps Russia could look to spend a few billion on much better things? Such as infrastructure? Education? Healthcare?

Like I said, this is just a refund for what Russia has already spent; it would still go to military spending. Plus, they now have all the equipment that was in the ships, and now nothing to do with them. As far as education goes, IIRC, Russia already spends more on education than on the military.

The government also said that the "Russian equipment installed on the vessels" would be "returned" to Russia.