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Postby Bralia » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:20 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Lordieth wrote:I do wonder why NS has such a relatively large trans community. It certainly seems so to me. Perhaps it says something positive about this place.

I've been battling with my identity and with the nature of why do I like to wear women's clothing so much. It has reached the point that I realized through meditation that I've been a fraud to myself only held back by my shoulders preventing the full transformation. I've had this gender identity issue for years to the point I've played as female characters whenever possible for the last 13 years in video games and was living vicariously through my avatars.

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Postby Auremena » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:20 am

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Auremena wrote:True, I just see it more easy to express when appearance isn't necessarily factored in, like, for the most part online, I don't even mention it, and I get by pretty well, right?
I don't really have a vehicle for that yet, like, school is online and no work yet. If I get one of the officey jobs I'm in process for atm, like, I think it'll be easier, coworkers ask you out for drinks after work and the like.
It's because you're not worrying about your appearance, and people like you because you're a likeable person. As they would in real life, if you too, didn't worry about your appearance when you spoke to people. Not that you have any reason to worry, in my view, but you understand what I'm saying, I hope.
Thanks, but, y'know, it's not that easy, especially when dad says that I "look like what I am, a boy who dresses as a girl."
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Postby Bralia » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:22 am

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Bralia wrote:I'm certainly not like most people. I wasn't born this way. To put it mostly simply, it's been the result of long-term, serious disenfranchisement with male culture and expectations. I'm a person who's chosen the life, more or less. That's another part of the reason why I feel especially "vulnerable", for a lack of a better word, and lack the motivation to do too much with myself. I'm not like other transgenders and they'd probably look down on me for making them look bad.

Oh. So you're unique.

Hardly. Have you been paying attention to the conversation we're all having here? Serb and I are alike in a fair few respects.
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Postby Lordieth » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:22 am

Auremena wrote:
Lordieth wrote:It's because you're not worrying about your appearance, and people like you because you're a likeable person. As they would in real life, if you too, didn't worry about your appearance when you spoke to people. Not that you have any reason to worry, in my view, but you understand what I'm saying, I hope.
Thanks, but, y'know, it's not that easy, especially when dad says that I "look like what I am, a boy who dresses as a girl."


No offence, Aur, but your dad is a bit thoughtless. Have you considered that the reason you find it difficult to make friends is because he's putting it in your mind that you don't look like who you are? Honestly, those sort of words are toxic to ones self-esteem, and frankly, he's talking bollocks.
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Postby Auremena » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:23 am

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Larthinia wrote:Y'know, sometimes, when I see so many transgenders and LGBT's in NS, I think that not they are the minority on NS, and that the heterosexuals are the minority. But that's just me.
Nah. TET in particular is LGBT heavy, but the site as a whole is most certainly majorly heterosexual.

What I will never stop finding amusing though is NSG having more MTF women than cisgender women.
Like I've said, I'd like to consider myself just as woman as a cisgender woman, even if I don't yet have all the right pieces, doesn't stop me from being much different from women in personality
*shrugs*
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Postby Gallade » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:24 am

Are there any FTM's on-site, actually? I don't think I've met one. Oppression!
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Postby Bralia » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:24 am

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Bralia wrote:I'm certainly not like most people. I wasn't born this way. To put it mostly simply, it's been the result of long-term, serious disenfranchisement with male culture and expectations.


That's the interesting thing about masculinity, it's far more heavily tied up with things like sexuality and "not being different" in a way that femininity just isn't. There has, after all, been the tomboy for a long time but there is no, say, tomgirl.
.

That is an apt observation that I agree with. *nods*. Can't express too many feelings as a guy.
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Postby Auremena » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:25 am

Lordieth wrote:
Auremena wrote:Thanks, but, y'know, it's not that easy, especially when dad says that I "look like what I am, a boy who dresses as a girl."
No offence, Aur, but your dad is a bit thoughtless. Have you considered that the reason you find it difficult to make friends is because he's putting it in your mind that you don't look like who you are? Honestly, those sort of words are toxic to ones self-esteem, and frankly, he's talking bollocks.
I know. But there's no getting away from him for more than a few hours. Even then, what am I to do? I've enough money to make it downtown and back but then I won't be able to do anything there.
I'd like to be able to move out soon, though that's going to take a good month or two after I land a job.
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Post-left anarchist and sad about it.
Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
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Postby Bralia » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:25 am

Gallade wrote:Are there any FTM's on-site, actually? I don't think I've met one. Oppression!

I could have sworn that Barboneia is one. As time passes, my uncertainty increases.
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Postby Gallade » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:26 am

Auremena wrote:
Gallade wrote:Nah. TET in particular is LGBT heavy, but the site as a whole is most certainly majorly heterosexual.

What I will never stop finding amusing though is NSG having more MTF women than cisgender women.
Like I've said, I'd like to consider myself just as woman as a cisgender woman, even if I don't yet have all the right pieces, doesn't stop me from being much different from women in personality
*shrugs*

You're a woman to me and most, Aure. These definitions are just for context.
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Postby Auremena » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:26 am

Gallade wrote:Are there any FTM's on-site, actually? I don't think I've met one. Oppression!
Maybe, I can think of one or two.
NS's aviation and train sabelotodo.
Post-left anarchist and sad about it.
Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
Some poetry I write sometimes
Tearing the MBTA a new one since 2014. The MTA too since 2016. Cover the world in trains 2030
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Postby Immoren » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:26 am

Gallade wrote:Are there any FTM's on-site, actually? I don't think I've met one. Oppression!


Yes, but sadly I can't recall names.
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Postby Lordieth » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:27 am

Auremena wrote:
Lordieth wrote:No offence, Aur, but your dad is a bit thoughtless. Have you considered that the reason you find it difficult to make friends is because he's putting it in your mind that you don't look like who you are? Honestly, those sort of words are toxic to ones self-esteem, and frankly, he's talking bollocks.
I know. But there's no getting away from him for more than a few hours. Even then, what am I to do? I've enough money to make it downtown and back but then I won't be able to do anything there.
I'd like to be able to move out soon, though that's going to take a good month or two after I land a job.


You don't need that sort of negative influence in your life, but that's just my humble opinion. He doesn't sound like the most encouraging of people.
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Postby Forsher » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:27 am

Lordieth wrote:Being a political forum, I'd like to think that it attracts a certain level of intellect, and that it's that general lack of ignorance which is what makes NS a more welcoming and diverse place.


I have to disagree there.

I think NSG* attracts a lot of ignorance. It's just that it's generally exploratory ignorance. Back when "piss off, you child" was such a popular sentiment the point lost on its proponents was that NSG* is largely a place where people figure out their thoughts on matters. The interactions of new members who hold new (and, often, extreme**) ideas with longer term members and how ideas are wielded in the so-called "marketplace of ideas" is actually a really important part of the formulation of more deeply held positions. This is one reason why people often change a lot to external viewers. But this whole process is really founded upon an initial state of ignorance, and it is that NSG invites discussion on these issues and that it does so in a context where you get first-hand voices and a mixture of familiarity with the ideas that yields the impression.

Obviously some people aren't so ignorant. These are people who have been around a bit longer or have joined from other places. Just, in general, anyone who isn't starting out.

*We have been talking about NS. Here I talk about NSG because I do not feel that an interpretation based solely on NSG can be used to generalise to NS as a whole. For instance, most Generalites don't bother with A&F let alone, say, Raiding and Defending.

**Which is entirely logical as it makes sense that someone who is just starting to think about, say, privatisation is just familiar with the basic idea and, at first, hasn't come across the real meat of the concept so creates that bit and, thinking logically, extends the principles involved to extremes like, say, "privatise the police" (which I've never really seen). I also mean new as in, for them.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:27 am

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The Serbian Empire wrote:I believe it is more common once old societal habits are removed. As I've become more separated from high school in my rural conservative hometown the more I've become what I am today. Simply, I became reclusive after graduating high school out of fear that people would discover my crossdressing habit. Then I became more comfortable with myself as I've matured and realized that if this was just a phase, I'd have moved on by now like what I did with 4chan.
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Postby Auremena » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:27 am

Gallade wrote:
Auremena wrote:Like I've said, I'd like to consider myself just as woman as a cisgender woman, even if I don't yet have all the right pieces, doesn't stop me from being much different from women in personality
*shrugs*
You're a woman to me and most, Aure. These definitions are just for context.
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Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
Some poetry I write sometimes
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Postby Auremena » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:28 am

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Auremena wrote:Were I still in Michigan, I'd totes take you to lunch and huggles :)
I'm almost at the point where I'm done with my training and once I get my license I can go anywhere. However, my training tempts me to go to Iowa as the state legalized same-sex marriage well before Michigan did and there's more % of GDP in manufacturing in Iowa than Michigan shockingly enough. That and my love of meteorology and storm chasing would be a lot easier there than in Michigan.
I mean like right now or within a week. Could be two if I had to rely on Indian Fails :P
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Post-left anarchist and sad about it.
Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
Some poetry I write sometimes
Tearing the MBTA a new one since 2014. The MTA too since 2016. Cover the world in trains 2030
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Postby Larthinia » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:30 am

And so, TET is getting closer to 500 pages again...
This reminds me of that song that Austrian transgender sang at Eurovision.
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Postby Larthinia » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:31 am

Auremena wrote:
Gallade wrote:You're a woman to me and most, Aure. These definitions are just for context.
Eau, gottit
Sorry if I was being accusatory

Are you the person in the link in your sig?
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Postby Jute » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:32 am

Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Postby Immoren » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:32 am

Larthinia wrote:And so, TET is getting closer to 500 pages again...
This reminds me of that song that Austrian transgender sang at Eurovision.


How those two connect at all?
And whom?
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Lordieth » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:33 am

Gah. Silent Hills may not be cancelled, but no official word on the matter. Don't let me clutch at straws.
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Postby Charlia » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:33 am

Larthinia wrote:And so, TET is getting closer to 500 pages again...
This reminds me of that song that Austrian transgender sang at Eurovision.

I went outside and sang that first sentence opera.

Just for the heck of it.


It was fun.

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Postby Larthinia » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:34 am

Immoren wrote:
Larthinia wrote:And so, TET is getting closer to 500 pages again...
This reminds me of that song that Austrian transgender sang at Eurovision.


How those two connect at all?
And whom?

The Austrian transgender in 2014 who sang "rise like a phoenix"
If you do not know, the myth says that a phoenix, after dying, reborns, just like this thread does.
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Anti: racism, drugs, alcohol, war, Iran, ISIS, China, Putin, North Korea.
male, blonde, tall, Romanian, heterosexual, religious, you have nothing else to know about me.

Proud member of Socialist Treaty Organisation!
Member of The Titans! (RP Group)
I support Thermonuclear Warfare. Do you?
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Postby Jute » Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:34 am

Immoren wrote:
Gallade wrote:Are there any FTM's on-site, actually? I don't think I've met one. Oppression!


Yes, but sadly I can't recall names.

Take a look in the transgender thread, there are some there.
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...
The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
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