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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:28 pm

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Camicon wrote:Literally nobody is saying that he killed those people because he is white or male, and his sexual and gender orientations are (as far as I'm aware) unknown and irrelevant. Try again.

Racist is liberal dog whistle for cishet white male.


As a cishet white male, I can assure you that this is inaccurate.

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Postby Roski » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:28 pm

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No, but we can't teach people not to kill people by throwing them in jail either. So its a moot point.

Yes, we can. In prison, people are alive and can be taught. In death, people can't learn.


Not really.

Still, I'd settle for 9 life sentences.

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Executing him would keep this man away from society.

Seriously, no on this rehabilitation. Its not worth it.

Executions cost more than life-in-prison. Rehabilitation offers the slim chance that Roof might give back to society.


Doesn't matter cost that much imo.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:30 pm

Roski wrote:
Cote d Argent wrote:Racist is liberal dog whistle for cishet white male.


But this is quite literally a racist attack.

This attack was intended because he felt that blacks were taking over the country.

Wrong, nobody believes that. He attacked in revenge for black violence.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:30 pm

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Its easier to cap him.

And he is both of those things

I can't way until the Liberal Party says "omg look gun violence" and then fox news say "omg video games"

This is just a fucking psychopath racist who needs to be given the death penalty and moved on with.

We can't teach people not to kill by killing people.


Well, no... but if you kill them, they don't do it again.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:34 pm

Roski wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:So let us either keep this dangerous man away from society or make attempts at rehabilitation. There's no moot point.


Executing him would keep this man away from society.

Seriously, no on this rehabilitation. Its not worth it.

The death penalty would cost more than imprisoning/rehabilitating him. Plus we wouldn't be stooping to his level.

Or, alternatively, we wouldn't be giving him the sweet release of death.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:39 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Roski wrote:
But this is quite literally a racist attack.

This attack was intended because he felt that blacks were taking over the country.

Wrong, nobody believes that. He attacked in revenge for black violence.

I never expected an NSG'er to support this barbarism.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:40 pm

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Blakk Metal wrote:Wrong, nobody believes that. He attacked in revenge for black violence.

I never expected an NSG'er to support this barbarism.

Yeah, that kinda stunned me as well.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:40 pm

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Blakk Metal wrote:Wrong, nobody believes that. He attacked in revenge for black violence.

I never expected an NSG'er to support this barbarism.

This is the most egregious strawman I've ever seen.

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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:49 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I never expected an NSG'er to support this barbarism.

This is the most egregious strawman I've ever seen.

"Black violence started it" is pretty egregious.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:51 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:This is the most egregious strawman I've ever seen.

"Black violence started it" is pretty egregious.

But what I said, his anger at black violence, isn't.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:51 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Geilinor wrote:"Black violence started it" is pretty egregious.

But what I said, his anger at black violence, isn't.

I can't seriously believe you don't see the admitted racism here.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:52 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Geilinor wrote:"Black violence started it" is pretty egregious.

But what I said, his anger at black violence, isn't.

His supposed anger is irrelevant.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:53 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:But what I said, his anger at black violence, isn't.

I can't seriously believe you don't see the admitted racism here.

I can't believe you see anything wrong with what I said.

Also, I've yet to see a good definition for 'racism'.

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Postby Blakk Metal » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:53 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:But what I said, his anger at black violence, isn't.

His supposed anger is irrelevant.

It was very relevant to those who he shot.

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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:57 pm

Camicon wrote:I hope he isn't suffering from insanity. That would mean he isn't legally responsible for what he did.

Hey, here's an idea, let's stop blaming horrible acts of violence on mental illness, hmm?


If he is medically insane, then he shouldn't be legally responsible for what he did.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:59 pm

The Grim Reaper wrote:
Camicon wrote:I hope he isn't suffering from insanity. That would mean he isn't legally responsible for what he did.

Hey, here's an idea, let's stop blaming horrible acts of violence on mental illness, hmm?


If he is medically insane, then he shouldn't be legally responsible for what he did.

But he should be kept away from society.

The problem is people always jump to mental illness with white shooters, yet every crime that happens with a black guy, it's because they're a thug, and black culture is the culprit.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:07 pm

Ah, luckily, Rick Perry has explained it all.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... g-accident

It was an accident, and the real issue is drugs.

Thanks, Rick Perry.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:08 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:He attacked in revenge for black violence.

What the fuck.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:08 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:Ah, luckily, Rick Perry has explained it all.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... g-accident

It was an accident, and the real issue is drugs.

Thanks, Rick Perry.


Clearly Dylan Roof didn't mean to kill black people to start a race war. *nod nod*
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:09 pm

http://gawker.com/report-dylann-roof-to ... 1712507964

"Not everyone that commits an atrocity is crazy. Some of them just have really messed up ideas. That’s all it takes."

This comment is accurate.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:16 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:He attacked in revenge for black violence.

What the fuck.

What's wrong with saying somebody was angry?

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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:16 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:http://gawker.com/report-dylann-roof-told-cops-he-almost-didn-t-go-throu-1712507964

"Not everyone that commits an atrocity is crazy. Some of them just have really messed up ideas. That’s all it takes."

This comment is accurate.


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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:19 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:What the fuck.

What's wrong with saying somebody was angry?


Sounds like you're saying he's justified in shooting up a church because of Black Violence©.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:21 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:http://gawker.com/report-dylann-roof-told-cops-he-almost-didn-t-go-throu-1712507964

"Not everyone that commits an atrocity is crazy. Some of them just have really messed up ideas. That’s all it takes."

This comment is accurate.

There are really two uses of crazy definition a is referring to some break with reality where he might not appreciate the wrongness of his action.
the second definition is just that the action and motivations for that action are incomprehensible, it does not reflect an attempt to lesson liability.


So to address the social media white people are labeled crazy blacks are labeled thugs. It may have to do with the motivation for the crimes caused by economic reasons are far more understandable than crimes committed by racial hatred. People can identify with robbing the liqour store if they are poor even if it results in a murder during the commission of the robbery.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:22 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Geilinor wrote:"Black violence started it" is pretty egregious.

But what I said, his anger at black violence, isn't.


This is the most asinine and offensive line of non-reasoning that I've seen on this site, and I say that as someone who has debated God Kefka/Infected Mushroom.

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