NATION

PASSWORD

9 Dead in SC Church Shooting - Hate Crime Confirmed.

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Hydesland
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15120
Founded: Nov 28, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby Hydesland » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:51 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Funny, I thought skepticism by definition creates conservatism to maintain a status-quo against the tide of fear-mongering progressives who say that if our nation continues down it's current path the entire human race will be extinct by 1984.


The conservatives are probably worse at fear mongering, what with their bullshit about the 'impending Islamification of Europe' and all.

User avatar
Hurtful Thoughts
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7213
Founded: Sep 09, 2005
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:54 pm

Camicon wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:^This came first.

Half a page above, which your second post did not reference. If you were making the second post within the context of the first, then you should be including the first post as a quote. Context doesn't magically appear on the screen just because you know it. You've been posting since '09, seriously, you should know how this works.

Actually, there was an NS-forum on Jolt.uk back in '05. (*pulls random archive*)
*NSG started in '03, get on mah level, the side-forum went strong all the way until the end of 2010, which is why pretty much all my RPs were over there.

And knowing doesn't help when you're posting with your eyes closed.
Last edited by Hurtful Thoughts on Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:06 pm, edited 4 times in total.
Factbook and general referance thread.
HOI <- Storefront (WiP)
Due to population-cuts, military-size currently being revised

The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:If there was only a "like" button for NS posts....

User avatar
Camicon
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14377
Founded: Aug 26, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Camicon » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:02 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Camicon wrote:Half a page above, which your second post did not reference. If you were making the second post within the context of the first, then you should be including the first post as a quote. Context doesn't magically appear on the screen just because you know it. You've been posting since '09, seriously, you should know how this works.

Actually, there was an NS-forum on Jolt.uk back in '05. (*pulls random archive*)
*NSG started in '03, get on mah level

And knowing doesn't help when you're posting with your eyes closed.

Arrogance is not attractive. And your exclusion of context from that post is completely inexplicable, given how long you've been posting on NSG.
Hey/They
Active since May, 2009
Country of glowing hearts, and patrons of the arts
Help me out
Star spangled madness, united sadness
Count me out
The Trews, Under The Sun
No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter

Why (Male) Rape Is Hilarious [because it has to be]

User avatar
Cote d Argent
Attaché
 
Posts: 81
Founded: Jun 09, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Cote d Argent » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:08 pm

If this was a muslim or a black guy all you liberals would be saying excuses like how its not islam or hiphop that causes violence. But since he has the wrong skin color you can say he kills because of being a cishet white male. Hypocrisy much?

User avatar
Camicon
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14377
Founded: Aug 26, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Camicon » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:10 pm

Cote d Argent wrote:If this was a muslim or a black guy all you liberals would be saying excuses like how its not islam or hiphop that causes violence. But since he has the wrong skin color you can say he kills because of being a cishet white male. Hypocrisy much?

Literally nobody is saying that he killed those people because he is white or male, and his sexual and gender orientations are (as far as I'm aware) unknown and irrelevant. Try again.
Hey/They
Active since May, 2009
Country of glowing hearts, and patrons of the arts
Help me out
Star spangled madness, united sadness
Count me out
The Trews, Under The Sun
No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter

Why (Male) Rape Is Hilarious [because it has to be]

User avatar
Cote d Argent
Attaché
 
Posts: 81
Founded: Jun 09, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Cote d Argent » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:12 pm

Camicon wrote:
Cote d Argent wrote:If this was a muslim or a black guy all you liberals would be saying excuses like how its not islam or hiphop that causes violence. But since he has the wrong skin color you can say he kills because of being a cishet white male. Hypocrisy much?

Literally nobody is saying that he killed those people because he is white or male, and his sexual and gender orientations are (as far as I'm aware) unknown and irrelevant. Try again.

Racist is liberal dog whistle for cishet white male.

User avatar
Roski
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15601
Founded: Nov 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Roski » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:12 pm

Edward Richtofen wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
He's on the run, supposedly.

Will be acquitted or never found due to being a white male who shot African Americans.


South Carolina has him booked for terrorism, I think

And no, that's not how America works.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

User avatar
Roski
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15601
Founded: Nov 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Roski » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:13 pm

Cote d Argent wrote:
Camicon wrote:Literally nobody is saying that he killed those people because he is white or male, and his sexual and gender orientations are (as far as I'm aware) unknown and irrelevant. Try again.

Racist is liberal dog whistle for cishet white male.


But this is quite literally a racist attack.

This attack was intended because he felt that blacks were taking over the country.

Sorry to side with the liberals on this, but this is a racist act.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

User avatar
Roski
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15601
Founded: Nov 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Roski » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:14 pm

Anyone know what the charges are they booked him with?

Are they going with nine counts of intentional homocide and hate crime or terrorism?
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

User avatar
Cote d Argent
Attaché
 
Posts: 81
Founded: Jun 09, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Cote d Argent » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:15 pm

Roski wrote:
Cote d Argent wrote:Racist is liberal dog whistle for cishet white male.


But this is quite literally a racist attack.

This attack was intended because he felt that blacks were taking over the country.

Sorry to side with the liberals on this, but this is a racist act.

And radicals islam is terror and gamg culture is thuggery

User avatar
Roski
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15601
Founded: Nov 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Roski » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:17 pm

Cote d Argent wrote:
Roski wrote:
But this is quite literally a racist attack.

This attack was intended because he felt that blacks were taking over the country.

Sorry to side with the liberals on this, but this is a racist act.

And radicals islam is terror and gamg culture is thuggery


Sorry, but saying "I'm here to shoot black people" in a church tips towards racism.

Yes, radical islam is terrorism and gang culture is thuggery

and those are both bad.

Take the conservative fearmongering somewhere else please.

This isn't the place for tea party bullshit.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

User avatar
Prussia-Steinbach
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 22386
Founded: Mar 12, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:20 pm

"possibly"

lol

Yeah, racist fuck. Probably a bit crazy too. Lock him up for the rest of his life or until he's been rehabilitated of his disgusting archaic views.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


User avatar
Roski
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15601
Founded: Nov 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Roski » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:20 pm

Jentopia-1 wrote:The shooting was an act of terrorism! Kill the terrorist! Why is it that whites can readily escape being labeled a terrorist?
Maybe they're trying to burn the truth?


No

I hope this guy gets the chair

Does south carolina still have death penalty laws?
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

User avatar
Camicon
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14377
Founded: Aug 26, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Camicon » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:21 pm

Cote d Argent wrote:
Camicon wrote:Literally nobody is saying that he killed those people because he is white or male, and his sexual and gender orientations are (as far as I'm aware) unknown and irrelevant. Try again.

Racist is liberal dog whistle for cishet white male.

Roof said, not quite as succinctly, "I am killing you because you are black, and I hate black people".

As Jon Stewart so aptly pointed out, it doesn't get more black and white than this. Roof's actions were textbook racism. It was a hate crime, it was a political assassination, and an act of domestic terrorism. Roof killed those people because he's a racist, shit-bag terrorist - not because he is white or male.
Hey/They
Active since May, 2009
Country of glowing hearts, and patrons of the arts
Help me out
Star spangled madness, united sadness
Count me out
The Trews, Under The Sun
No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter

Why (Male) Rape Is Hilarious [because it has to be]

User avatar
Roski
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15601
Founded: Nov 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Roski » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:21 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:"possibly"

lol

Yeah, racist fuck. Probably a bit crazy too. Lock him up for the rest of his life or until he's been rehabilitated of his disgusting archaic views.


Its easier to cap him.

And he is both of those things

I can't way until the Liberal Party says "omg look gun violence" and then fox news say "omg video games"

This is just a fucking psychopath racist who needs to be given the death penalty and moved on with.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

User avatar
Prussia-Steinbach
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 22386
Founded: Mar 12, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:22 pm

Roski wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:"possibly"

lol

Yeah, racist fuck. Probably a bit crazy too. Lock him up for the rest of his life or until he's been rehabilitated of his disgusting archaic views.


Its easier to cap him.

And he is both of those things

I can't way until the Liberal Party says "omg look gun violence" and then fox news say "omg video games"

This is just a fucking psychopath racist who needs to be given the death penalty and moved on with.

We can't teach people not to kill by killing people.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


User avatar
Prussia-Steinbach
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 22386
Founded: Mar 12, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:23 pm

Cote d Argent wrote:
Camicon wrote:Literally nobody is saying that he killed those people because he is white or male, and his sexual and gender orientations are (as far as I'm aware) unknown and irrelevant. Try again.

Racist is liberal dog whistle for cishet white male.

Funny, since I'm a cishet white male who hasn't been called a racist in any racial thread here.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


User avatar
Camicon
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14377
Founded: Aug 26, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Camicon » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:23 pm

Roski wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:"possibly"

lol

Yeah, racist fuck. Probably a bit crazy too. Lock him up for the rest of his life or until he's been rehabilitated of his disgusting archaic views.


Its easier to cap him.

And he is both of those things

I can't way until the Liberal Party says "omg look gun violence" and then fox news say "omg video games"

This is just a fucking psychopath racist who needs to be given the death penalty and moved on with.

I hope he isn't suffering from insanity. That would mean he isn't legally responsible for what he did.

Hey, here's an idea, let's stop blaming horrible acts of violence on mental illness, hmm?
Hey/They
Active since May, 2009
Country of glowing hearts, and patrons of the arts
Help me out
Star spangled madness, united sadness
Count me out
The Trews, Under The Sun
No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter

Why (Male) Rape Is Hilarious [because it has to be]

User avatar
Roski
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15601
Founded: Nov 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Roski » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:23 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Roski wrote:
Its easier to cap him.

And he is both of those things

I can't way until the Liberal Party says "omg look gun violence" and then fox news say "omg video games"

This is just a fucking psychopath racist who needs to be given the death penalty and moved on with.

We can't teach people not to kill by killing people.


No, but we can't teach people not to kill people by throwing them in jail either. So its a moot point.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

User avatar
Prussia-Steinbach
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 22386
Founded: Mar 12, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:24 pm

Roski wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:We can't teach people not to kill by killing people.

No, but we can't teach people not to kill people by throwing them in jail either. So its a moot point.

So let us either keep this dangerous man away from society or make attempts at rehabilitation. There's no moot point.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


User avatar
Geilinor
Post Czar
 
Posts: 41328
Founded: Feb 20, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:25 pm

Roski wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:We can't teach people not to kill by killing people.


No, but we can't teach people not to kill people by throwing them in jail either. So its a moot point.

Yes, we can. In prison, people are alive and can be taught. In death, people can't learn.
Member of the Free Democratic Party. Not left. Not right. Forward.
Economic Left/Right: -1.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

User avatar
Roski
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15601
Founded: Nov 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Roski » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:25 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Roski wrote:No, but we can't teach people not to kill people by throwing them in jail either. So its a moot point.

So let us either keep this dangerous man away from society or make attempts at rehabilitation. There's no moot point.


Executing him would keep this man away from society.

Seriously, no on this rehabilitation. Its not worth it.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

User avatar
Geilinor
Post Czar
 
Posts: 41328
Founded: Feb 20, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:26 pm

Roski wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:So let us either keep this dangerous man away from society or make attempts at rehabilitation. There's no moot point.


Executing him would keep this man away from society.

Seriously, no on this rehabilitation. Its not worth it.

As would locking him in prison.
Member of the Free Democratic Party. Not left. Not right. Forward.
Economic Left/Right: -1.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

User avatar
Roski
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15601
Founded: Nov 18, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Roski » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:27 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Roski wrote:
Executing him would keep this man away from society.

Seriously, no on this rehabilitation. Its not worth it.

As would locking him in prison.


Still not worth it imo.
I'm some 17 year old psuedo-libertarian who leans to the left in social terms, is fiercly right economically, and centrist in foriegn policy. Unapologetically Pro-American, Pro-NATO, even if we do fuck up (a lot). If you can find real sources that disagree with me I will change my opinion. Call me IHOP cause I'm always flipping.

Follow my Vex Robotics team on instagram! @3921a_vex

I am the Federal Republic of Roski. I have a population slightly over 256 million with a GDP of 13.92-14.25 trillion. My gross domestic product increases each year between .4%-.1.4%. I have a military with 4.58 million total people, with 1.58 million of those active. My defense spending is 598.5 billion, or 4.2% of my Gross Domestic Product.

User avatar
Camicon
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14377
Founded: Aug 26, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Camicon » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:27 pm

Roski wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:So let us either keep this dangerous man away from society or make attempts at rehabilitation. There's no moot point.


Executing him would keep this man away from society.

Seriously, no on this rehabilitation. Its not worth it.

Executions cost more than life-in-prison. Rehabilitation offers the slim chance that Roof might give back to society.
Hey/They
Active since May, 2009
Country of glowing hearts, and patrons of the arts
Help me out
Star spangled madness, united sadness
Count me out
The Trews, Under The Sun
No human is more human than any other. - Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire
Don't shine for swine. - Metric, Soft Rock Star
Love is hell. Hell is love. Hell is asking to be loved. - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton, Detective Daughter

Why (Male) Rape Is Hilarious [because it has to be]

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: American Legionaries, Based Illinois, Bradfordville, El Lazaro, Elejamie, Myrensis, Rary, Ryemarch, Shrillland, The Jamesian Republic, Valrifall

Advertisement

Remove ads