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by Elejamie » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:08 pm
by Tarsonis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:19 pm
Elejamie wrote:Also, apologies for the double post (if only because no one's really posted here for a while) and this isn't exactly that hockey related, not to mention it's not that recent, but Gritty, Flyers mascot and surprising left-wing icon, is getting a beer made in his honour. Really. Seeing as I'm not sure if you have to buy it in-store or if you can order it online, is there anyone here from Philly (or the surrounding area) willing to try it just to let us know what it's like?
Oh, and the Bruins revealed their jerseys for the Winter Classic, if we can get some discussion out of that.
by Ameriganastan » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:26 pm
Tarsonis wrote:Elejamie wrote:Also, apologies for the double post (if only because no one's really posted here for a while) and this isn't exactly that hockey related, not to mention it's not that recent, but Gritty, Flyers mascot and surprising left-wing icon, is getting a beer made in his honour. Really. Seeing as I'm not sure if you have to buy it in-store or if you can order it online, is there anyone here from Philly (or the surrounding area) willing to try it just to let us know what it's like?
Oh, and the Bruins revealed their jerseys for the Winter Classic, if we can get some discussion out of that.
Ugh is that what they actually used to wear.
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by Elejamie » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:55 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Tarsonis wrote:Ugh is that what they actually used to wear.
Least it looks better than The Canadiens throwbacks.
by Tarsonis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:40 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Tarsonis wrote:Ugh is that what they actually used to wear.
Least it looks better than The Canadiens throwbacks.
by Shofercia » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:04 am
Ameriganastan wrote:Tarsonis wrote:Ugh is that what they actually used to wear.
Least it looks better than The Canadiens throwbacks.
by Tarsonis » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:04 pm
by Tarsonis » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:14 pm
by Elejamie » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:57 am
by Tarsonis » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:15 pm
Elejamie wrote:So the NHL's deputy commish says that the NHL might expand to Europe one day. He's not saying they definitely would, he's just saying that there's a possibility of it happening. Though, personally, I'm a bit mixed on this. I mean, on the one hand:
- You've got the runaway success of the Toronto Wolfpack, a rugby league team that plays in our (British) league system. Not only did they dominate League 1 but they also did fairly well in the Championship; if they didn't lose their Million Pound Game to the London Broncos then they would've made it to the Super League in their third year of existence.
- You've got the rumours of the NFL moving a team over to London. More than likely to be the Jaguars since they play over here a lot.
- You've got the possibility of more money to be made from a foreign audience with a permanent team rather than being part of a Global Series.
- Overall, it could be an interesting experience.
On the other hand:
- There are things like travel costs. Especially since, unlike football or rugby league games, ice hockey games are usually played more than once a week and you usually get teams playing two days in a row against different teams (bonus points if it's home one day and away the next).
- It could be taxing for players, whether they're in the new team and they're playing away to a team in the USA or Canada or they're playing for an established NHL team and they'd have to play against the European team.
- The salary cap could be even more of an issue due to the different currencies involved. Ditto the language barrier unless the new team plays in the UK or Ireland (or maybe France or the French-speaking part of Belgium because Canadiens).
- It's just a question of whether they're going to establish a brand new team or be like the KHL and EBEL did and wait for a team to apply to join them. Which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that there are still plenty of current NHL teams that are in the red (*cough* The Wesleys *unconvincing cough*).
That and I don't think the KHL would be super keen on their North American counterpart muscling in on their turf. Still, what do you guys think?
by Savojarna » Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:04 am
Elejamie wrote:So the NHL's deputy commish says that the NHL might expand to Europe one day. He's not saying they definitely would, he's just saying that there's a possibility of it happening. Though, personally, I'm a bit mixed on this. I mean, on the one hand:
- You've got the runaway success of the Toronto Wolfpack, a rugby league team that plays in our (British) league system. Not only did they dominate League 1 but they also did fairly well in the Championship; if they didn't lose their Million Pound Game to the London Broncos then they would've made it to the Super League in their third year of existence.
- You've got the rumours of the NFL moving a team over to London. More than likely to be the Jaguars since they play over here a lot.
- You've got the possibility of more money to be made from a foreign audience with a permanent team rather than being part of a Global Series.
- Overall, it could be an interesting experience.
On the other hand:
- There are things like travel costs. Especially since, unlike football or rugby league games, ice hockey games are usually played more than once a week and you usually get teams playing two days in a row against different teams (bonus points if it's home one day and away the next).
- It could be taxing for players, whether they're in the new team and they're playing away to a team in the USA or Canada or they're playing for an established NHL team and they'd have to play against the European team.
- The salary cap could be even more of an issue due to the different currencies involved. Ditto the language barrier unless the new team plays in the UK or Ireland (or maybe France or the French-speaking part of Belgium because Canadiens).
- It's just a question of whether they're going to establish a brand new team or be like the KHL and EBEL did and wait for a team to apply to join them. Which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that there are still plenty of current NHL teams that are in the red (*cough* The Wesleys *unconvincing cough*).
That and I don't think the KHL would be super keen on their North American counterpart muscling in on their turf. Still, what do you guys think?
by The Two Jerseys » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:31 pm
by The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:06 pm
Savojarna wrote:Elejamie wrote:So the NHL's deputy commish says that the NHL might expand to Europe one day. He's not saying they definitely would, he's just saying that there's a possibility of it happening. Though, personally, I'm a bit mixed on this. I mean, on the one hand:
- You've got the runaway success of the Toronto Wolfpack, a rugby league team that plays in our (British) league system. Not only did they dominate League 1 but they also did fairly well in the Championship; if they didn't lose their Million Pound Game to the London Broncos then they would've made it to the Super League in their third year of existence.
- You've got the rumours of the NFL moving a team over to London. More than likely to be the Jaguars since they play over here a lot.
- You've got the possibility of more money to be made from a foreign audience with a permanent team rather than being part of a Global Series.
- Overall, it could be an interesting experience.
On the other hand:
- There are things like travel costs. Especially since, unlike football or rugby league games, ice hockey games are usually played more than once a week and you usually get teams playing two days in a row against different teams (bonus points if it's home one day and away the next).
- It could be taxing for players, whether they're in the new team and they're playing away to a team in the USA or Canada or they're playing for an established NHL team and they'd have to play against the European team.
- The salary cap could be even more of an issue due to the different currencies involved. Ditto the language barrier unless the new team plays in the UK or Ireland (or maybe France or the French-speaking part of Belgium because Canadiens).
- It's just a question of whether they're going to establish a brand new team or be like the KHL and EBEL did and wait for a team to apply to join them. Which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that there are still plenty of current NHL teams that are in the red (*cough* The Wesleys *unconvincing cough*).
That and I don't think the KHL would be super keen on their North American counterpart muscling in on their turf. Still, what do you guys think?
I don't want an NHL team over here. If it's a new team it will be plastic, and taking away from the fanbase of an established European team (or located in a country that has no big hockey tradition, which would be even worse). If it is an established team, that takes a team out of its grown environment with all its rivalries and stories to play in a league it has no connection to. Both suck if you ask me - we don't need the NHL in the countries that already care for hockey, and in the others it would probably just become another entertainment option without the passion behind it that our old teams have.
Additionally, I don't like the way the NHL sees itself synonymous with hockey (talking about "growing the game in Europe" and shit like that when we have almost a century of ice hockey tradition here), and in my opinion European hockey is better than NHL hockey. Not skill-wise, don't get me wrong - the best players are in the NHL - but I think that most European leagues have a nicer playstyle, and outside of the Original Six (and maybe the first expansion teams) they also have more identity, tradition and weight behind them and less of a corporate feeling. Also, franchising sucks. I would not trade my Swiss League for the NHL if I had to, boost the CHL instead and make Europe have its own strong competition.
by Shofercia » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:49 am
Elejamie wrote:So the NHL's deputy commish says that the NHL might expand to Europe one day. He's not saying they definitely would, he's just saying that there's a possibility of it happening. Though, personally, I'm a bit mixed on this. I mean, on the one hand:
- You've got the runaway success of the Toronto Wolfpack, a rugby league team that plays in our (British) league system. Not only did they dominate League 1 but they also did fairly well in the Championship; if they didn't lose their Million Pound Game to the London Broncos then they would've made it to the Super League in their third year of existence.
- You've got the rumours of the NFL moving a team over to London. More than likely to be the Jaguars since they play over here a lot.
- You've got the possibility of more money to be made from a foreign audience with a permanent team rather than being part of a Global Series.
- Overall, it could be an interesting experience.
On the other hand:
- There are things like travel costs. Especially since, unlike football or rugby league games, ice hockey games are usually played more than once a week and you usually get teams playing two days in a row against different teams (bonus points if it's home one day and away the next).
- It could be taxing for players, whether they're in the new team and they're playing away to a team in the USA or Canada or they're playing for an established NHL team and they'd have to play against the European team.
- The salary cap could be even more of an issue due to the different currencies involved. Ditto the language barrier unless the new team plays in the UK or Ireland (or maybe France or the French-speaking part of Belgium because Canadiens).
- It's just a question of whether they're going to establish a brand new team or be like the KHL and EBEL did and wait for a team to apply to join them. Which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that there are still plenty of current NHL teams that are in the red (*cough* The Wesleys *unconvincing cough*).
That and I don't think the KHL would be super keen on their North American counterpart muscling in on their turf. Still, what do you guys think?
by Elejamie » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:53 am
Elejamie wrote:So the NHL's deputy commish says that the NHL might expand to Europe one day. He's not saying they definitely would, he's just saying that there's a possibility of it happening. Though, personally, I'm a bit mixed on this. I mean, on the one hand:
- You've got the runaway success of the Toronto Wolfpack, a rugby league team that plays in our (British) league system. Not only did they dominate League 1 but they also did fairly well in the Championship; if they didn't lose their Million Pound Game to the London Broncos then they would've made it to the Super League in their third year of existence.
- You've got the rumours of the NFL moving a team over to London. More than likely to be the Jaguars since they play over here a lot.
- You've got the possibility of more money to be made from a foreign audience with a permanent team rather than being part of a Global Series.
- Overall, it could be an interesting experience.
On the other hand:
- There are things like travel costs. Especially since, unlike football or rugby league games, ice hockey games are usually played more than once a week and you usually get teams playing two days in a row against different teams (bonus points if it's home one day and away the next).
- It could be taxing for players, whether they're in the new team and they're playing away to a team in the USA or Canada or they're playing for an established NHL team and they'd have to play against the European team.
- The salary cap could be even more of an issue due to the different currencies involved. Ditto the language barrier unless the new team plays in the UK or Ireland (or maybe France or the French-speaking part of Belgium because Canadiens).
- It's just a question of whether they're going to establish a brand new team or be like the KHL and EBEL did and wait for a team to apply to join them. Which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that there are still plenty of current NHL teams that are in the red (*cough* The Wesleys *unconvincing cough*).
That and I don't think the KHL would be super keen on their North American counterpart muscling in on their turf. Still, what do you guys think?
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by Elejamie » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:51 am
by Ameriganastan » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:42 pm
Elejamie wrote:Apologies for the double post and the obvious news but it's official: Seattle will be getting a new NHL team ready for the 2021-22 season (source). Not just that but the Coyotes will be moved to the Central Division, as I figured they would (especially since it would theoretically make a move to Houston, Kansas City, Saskatoon, Oklahoma City or, I don't know, Oaxaca much easier).
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by Elejamie » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:49 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Elejamie wrote:Apologies for the double post and the obvious news but it's official: Seattle will be getting a new NHL team ready for the 2021-22 season (source). Not just that but the Coyotes will be moved to the Central Division, as I figured they would (especially since it would theoretically make a move to Houston, Kansas City, Saskatoon, Oklahoma City or, I don't know, Oaxaca much easier).
Still say they should have just moved the Coyotes.
by Camicon » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:07 am
Elejamie wrote:Ameriganastan wrote:Still say they should have just moved the Coyotes.
They should but until Gary Bettman stops being commissioner the Wesleys are sadly going to stay put in Glendale. Even though he could try and move them somewhere else in Arizona like Mesa, Scottsdale or even Phoenix proper (I would've brought up Tempe but they tried that and it didn't work out as planned).
EDIT: So the Jackets' defence was just too good during their game against the Flames last night.
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by Elejamie » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:54 pm
Camicon wrote:Elejamie wrote:
They should but until Gary Bettman stops being commissioner the Wesleys are sadly going to stay put in Glendale. Even though he could try and move them somewhere else in Arizona like Mesa, Scottsdale or even Phoenix proper (I would've brought up Tempe but they tried that and it didn't work out as planned).
EDIT: So the Jackets' defence was just too good during their game against the Flames last night.
With the 'Yotes moving into the Central to accommodate the inclusion of Seattle, we could very well see the team move into Houston.
The 'Yotes have never turned a profit; their franchise is valued at only $290 million, their operating income is -$11 million, and they're estimated to be $200 million in debt. There is no interest at the state level to give money to the 'Yotes ownership group to build an arena, and they don't have their own arena because Tempe fell through; they're currently leasing on a year-to-year basis with Gila River Arena who appear to be growing increasingly disinterested with the team.
Houston has a solid owner in place, an NHL-ready arena, and is both large enough and interested enough in hockey to support an NHL team. It would move the team closer to the other teams in the Central and keep them in the southern US.
Honestly, if the 'Yotes don't turn things around in a big way before the 20-21 season, I'll be surprised if they don't move.
by Impaled Nazarene » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:50 pm
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by Tarsonis » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:51 pm
by Ameriganastan » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:01 pm
Elejamie wrote:They should but until Gary Bettman stops being commissioner the Wesleys are sadly going to stay put in Glendale. Even though he could try and move them somewhere else in Arizona like Mesa, Scottsdale or even Phoenix proper (I would've brought up Tempe but they tried that and it didn't work out as planned).
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by Elejamie » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:20 pm
Ameriganastan wrote:Elejamie wrote:They should but until Gary Bettman stops being commissioner the Wesleys are sadly going to stay put in Glendale. Even though he could try and move them somewhere else in Arizona like Mesa, Scottsdale or even Phoenix proper (I would've brought up Tempe but they tried that and it didn't work out as planned).
There's new news on this front: The guy who owns the Houston Rockets met with the NHL. They might be packing up and headed to Texas.
by United Kingdom of Poland » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:11 pm
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