2015 Canadian Election

[Fanosolia]

A majority?! Are you kidding me right now?

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Jeez. I'm somewhat regretting my vote. I put my support in for the local NDP candidate based on polls that showed the Tories out far ahead in my riding, thinking it wouldn't matter much anyways.

Now the Liberal candidate is winning by just 4 votes.

[Maineiacs]

It's kinda funny when you consider the Bloc is led by an ex communist and has a quite socially progressive platform.

The whole "secessionism at any cost" thing tends to turn off socially liberal voters though, and that's the thing that the Bloc harps on more than anything else.

More than anything else? I thought secession was the Bloc's raison d'être.

[Kelinfort]

A majority?! Are you kidding me right now?

The Liberals can afford to lose the lead in 15 ridings and still have a majority.

[Camicon]

The whole "secessionism at any cost" thing tends to turn off socially liberal voters though, and that's the thing that the Bloc harps on more than anything else.

More than anything else? I thought secession was the Bloc's raison d'être.

Well, yeah, but it's not the only thing they ever talk about. We've not devolved into American-style politics quite yet.

[Nation of Quebec]

CBC is projecting a Liberal majority government.

[Maineiacs]

Jeez. I'm somewhat regretting my vote. I put my support in for the local NDP candidate based on polls that showed the Tories out far ahead in my riding, thinking it wouldn't matter much anyways.

Now the Liberal candidate is winning by just 4 votes.

What are your laws (if any) concerning run-offs?

[Oneracon]

Someone skipped Canadian history class.

Canada's casualties as percent of total in WW1: 1%
in WW2: 0.06%

Tell me more about how significant of a contribution we made to the last two major wars.

Casualties aren't a marker of contributions, you know what is?

WWI:

• Second Battle of Ypres
• Battle of Passchendaele
• Capture of Vimy Ridge

We were so well-regarded by the Allied Powers, especially for the near single-handed capture of Vimy, that we were given our own representative to the Treaty of Versailles and to the League of Nations.

WWII:

• Dieppe Raids
• Battle of Hong Kong
• Battle of Ortona
• D-Day at Juno Beach
• Liberating the Netherlands

Seriously, pick up a history book.

And yes, we do need a military.

Why so we can pretend to be one of the cool kids? Canada's military wouldn't be able to hold off any one of the guys who might want to grab a piece of our territory for even a day. And our navy's patrols of the Arctic are less than a joke to Russia with their 55+ nuclear subs. The reality is that no matter who decides to invade us we're screwed if the US doesn't help out.

So the whole point is that we don't be depend on the US.[/quote]

[Napkiraly]

Someone skipped Canadian history class.

Canada's casualties as percent of total in WW1: 1%
in WW2: 0.06%

Tell me more about how significant of a contribution we made to the last two major wars.

And yes, we do need a military.

Why so we can pretend to be one of the cool kids? Canada's military wouldn't be able to hold off any one of the guys who might want to grab a piece of our territory for even a day. And our navy's patrols of the Arctic are less than a joke to Russia with their 55+ nuclear subs. The reality is that no matter who decides to invade us we're screwed if the US doesn't help out.

Also I never said BC would be the tie breaker.

Corrected.

Limiting Canadian involvement to literally the amount of casualties as a % of all casualties is literally one of the most fucking stupid ways of gauging its contribution. In WWI the Canadian Corps was one of the shock troops units for the British Empire, along with the ANZAC's. We played a huge role in Arras, Ypres, the 100 Days Offensive, etc.

In WWII we were instrumental in keeping the Atlantic convoys safe. The RCN became one of the most effective anti-submarine forces on the planet. Not to mention our role in Italy and Northern Europe from 43-45.

Most countries cannot defend themselves to any of the major military powers, guess they should just pack it in eh. I mean it's not like we historically were very active in peacekeeping and lately have played a major role in Afghanistan. There's also the fact that we have to contribute to NATO, and really only Iceland has an excuse to not really have any military (plus their inclusion is due to strategic considerations).

Good thing we're part of NATO. Doesn't mean we should have absolutely nothing. I mean military's are also used for other things other than direct defence. This is some low level of logic you're working on here.

[Geilinor]

CBC calls Liberal majority.

[Kelinfort]

CBC is projecting a Liberal majority government.

Oh my fucking God.

[Maineiacs]

More than anything else? I thought secession was the Bloc's raison d'être.

Well, yeah, but it's not the only thing they ever talk about. We've not devolved into American-style politics quite yet.

I hope for your sake you never do. America is the last country you should emulate.

[Bentrada]

CBC is projecting a Liberal majority government.

Oh my fucking God.

In a good way or a bad way?

[Ontorisa]

Canada's casualties as percent of total in WW1: 1%
in WW2: 0.06%

Tell me more about how significant of a contribution we made to the last two major wars.



Why so we can pretend to be one of the cool kids? Canada's military wouldn't be able to hold off any one of the guys who might want to grab a piece of our territory for even a day. And our navy's patrols of the Arctic are less than a joke to Russia with their 55+ nuclear subs. The reality is that no matter who decides to invade us we're screwed if the US doesn't help out.



Corrected.

Juno Beach, The Battle of the Atlantic. The, quite frankly, mammoth contributions of money, material, and personnel to military forces and civilian population in Europe. Canada was a major part of the Allied victory during WWII.

[EDIT] And the only reason that we don't have nuclear subs is because the US cock-blocked our purchase back when. Besides which, military strength is not a great indicator of power anymore.

You missed another event Cami. We liberated all of the Netherlands by ourselves in WW2. Also, we sort of took on both Croatian and Serbian militias at the same time in the Medak Pocket at one point in the fight.

[Canadian Davsland]

LIBERAL MAJORITY!

[Aggicificicerous]

Harper is gone. That's the power of the youth vote. About fucking time.

[Napkiraly]

CBC is projecting a Liberal majority government.

Oh my fucking God.

YAAAAAAAS

[Fanosolia]

CBC is projecting a Liberal majority government.

Wait wait. What do you mean projecting?

[Greed and Death]

Harper has announced the election is voided.

I would suggest armed resistance by the Canadians but sadly they already banned most of the guns.

[Ontorisa]

LIBERAL MAJORITY!

Fuck. My. Life.

[Camicon]

Well, yeah, but it's not the only thing they ever talk about. We've not devolved into American-style politics quite yet.

I hope for your sake you never do. America is the last country you should emulate.

Given that the First Commandment of the Canadian Identity is "Though Shalt Correct Anyone Who Call Thee An American, For Thou Art Not" I don't think we're in much danger.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I would say that Harper has been stopped.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Jeez. I'm somewhat regretting my vote. I put my support in for the local NDP candidate based on polls that showed the Tories out far ahead in my riding, thinking it wouldn't matter much anyways.

Now the Liberal candidate is winning by just 4 votes.

What are your laws (if any) concerning run-offs?

I don't think we have any. Recounts are granted by Elections Canada when ridings are decided by a margin of less than one thousandth of the total votes cast, so it sounds like it's possible we'll get one of those.

[Camicon]

Juno Beach, The Battle of the Atlantic. The, quite frankly, mammoth contributions of money, material, and personnel to military forces and civilian population in Europe. Canada was a major part of the Allied victory during WWII.

[EDIT] And the only reason that we don't have nuclear subs is because the US cock-blocked our purchase back when. Besides which, military strength is not a great indicator of power anymore.

You missed another event Cami. We liberated all of the Netherlands by ourselves in WW2. Also, we sort of took on both Croatian and Serbian militias at the same time in the Medak Pocket at one point in the fight.

Thread's moving fast, and I'm splitting my attention. Figured someone else would pick up what I left out.

[Napkiraly]

Woooooooooooo

Waterloo won by Liberals .
Winnipeg South won by Liberals
Winnipeg South Centre won by Liberals
London West, Liberals in the lead

WOOOOO!