2015 Canadian Election

[Napkiraly]

Holy shit, Winnipeg has gone either Lib or NDP. I don't think they've done that ever when I lived there. Even Charleswood is dumping the Cons. Holy shit!

[Ontorisa]

I for one, do not welcome our new Liberal overlords.

You're just jelly.

But lets be honest, for every non Con supporter, this is better than having Harper in.

I feel bad for Olivia Chow though, I like her and think she could actually make for a good leader of the NDP.

To be real, she could probably ride on Layton's legacy.

Anyways, Orange forever!

[Oneracon]

Saanich-Gulf Islands still not reporting in

[Napkiraly]

Ultimately, however, as we saw in Britain, the biggest losers of the night are going to be professional pollsters who never saw a Liberal majority coming in a million years,and there's still the possibility that it won't happen, but it grows slimmer by the moment.

Yeah. I don't think they really foresaw just how much 'anyone but Harper' sentiment there is on the left and definitely didn't see how much that might translate into an exodus from the NDP in the last few weeks as people picked the most likely winner.

To be fair, the poll yesterday was 38% for the Liberals with a +/- 3% margin of error. Which put them in majority range easily.

[Nation of Quebec]

Very surprised to see the Bloc getting as much as 10 seats though. Hopefully that trickles down as more polls are counted.

[Atealia]

Well the liberals are projecting a majority with 174, I wonder if they will stay above 170.

[MERIZoC]

Ajax going red. Excellent.

[Camicon]

Very surprised to see the Bloc getting as much as 10 seats though. Hopefully that trickles down as more polls are counted.

Given the socially conservative nature of Bloc voters, they could very well be keeping those seats out of the hands of the Tories.

[Bentrada]

So, I'm not Canadian, but on the CBC website the Liberals have a majority. As I'm not familiar with the Canadian electoral system, can someone explain if a majority means that the Liberals have basically won?

[Anollasia]

Ajax going red. Excellent.

[Camicon]

So, I'm not Canadian, but on the CBC website the Liberals have a majority. As I'm not familiar with the Canadian electoral system, can someone explain if a majority means that the Liberals have basically won?

A projected majority. They only have 46 seats confirmed as having been won, at the moment. The other 130+ are still contested.

[Gim]

So, I'm not Canadian, but on the CBC website the Liberals have a majority. As I'm not familiar with the Canadian electoral system, can someone explain if a majority means that the Liberals have basically won?

They can pass laws without debate.

[Nation of Quebec]

Very surprised to see the Bloc getting as much as 10 seats though. Hopefully that trickles down as more polls are counted.

Given the socially conservative nature of Bloc voters, they could very well be keeping those seats out of the hands of the Tories.

True. There's still a chance of Conservative-Bloc vote splitting to allow the NDP or Liberals to win in some of those ridings.

[Napkiraly]

Very surprised to see the Bloc getting as much as 10 seats though. Hopefully that trickles down as more polls are counted.

Given the socially conservative nature of Bloc voters, they could very well be keeping those seats out of the hands of the Tories.

It's kinda funny when you consider the Bloc is led by an ex communist and has a quite socially progressive platform.

[Camicon]

Given the socially conservative nature of Bloc voters, they could very well be keeping those seats out of the hands of the Tories.

It's kinda funny when you consider the Bloc is led by an ex communist and has a quite socially progressive platform.

The whole "secessionism at any cost" thing tends to turn off socially liberal voters though, and that's the thing that the Bloc harps on more than anything else.

[Oneracon]

So, I'm not Canadian, but on the CBC website the Liberals have a majority. As I'm not familiar with the Canadian electoral system, can someone explain if a majority means that the Liberals have basically won?

They can pass laws without debate.

Well unofficially yes.

I'm choosing to be optimistic and hope that Trudeau won't be as authoritarian as Harper was in a majority... but I would have preferred a minority to not even risk it.

[Napkiraly]

:blush:

You're just jelly.

But lets be honest, for every non Con supporter, this is better than having Harper in.

I feel bad for Olivia Chow though, I like her and think she could actually make for a good leader of the NDP.

To be real, she could probably ride on Layton's legacy.

Anyways, Orange forever!

Shame she looks to lose her former seat.

[Napkiraly]

They can pass laws without debate.

Well unofficially yes.

I'm choosing to be optimistic and hope that Trudeau won't be as authoritarian as Harper was in a majority... but I would have preferred a minority to not even risk it.

I don't see why he'd be.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Yeah. I don't think they really foresaw just how much 'anyone but Harper' sentiment there is on the left and definitely didn't see how much that might translate into an exodus from the NDP in the last few weeks as people picked the most likely winner.

To be fair, the poll yesterday was 38% for the Liberals with a +/- 3% margin of error. Which put them in majority range easily.

They did detect it, but I don't remember ever reading a single analysis that picked up on why the shift happened when it did.

[Discutor]

Someone skipped Canadian history class.

Canada's casualties as percent of total in WW1: 1%
in WW2: 0.06%

Tell me more about how significant of a contribution we made to the last two major wars.

And yes, we do need a military.

Why so we can pretend to be one of the cool kids? Canada's military wouldn't be able to hold off any one of the guys who might want to grab a piece of our territory for even a day. And our navy's patrols of the Arctic are less than a joke to Russia with their 55+ nuclear subs. The reality is that no matter who decides to invade us we're screwed if the US doesn't help out.

Also I never said BC would be the tie breaker.

Corrected.

[Napkiraly]

Apparently a number of BC people are miffed that the election was called before their polls closed. And I agree, there should be no calling it until they're done. Both in fairness and to prevent potentially influencing people's voting intentions.

[Camicon]

Someone skipped Canadian history class.

Canada's casualties as percent of total in WW1: 1%
in WW2: 0.06%

Tell me more about how significant of a contribution we made to the last two major wars.

And yes, we do need a military.

Why so we can pretend to be one of the cool kids? Canada's military wouldn't be able to hold off any one of the guys who might want to grab a piece of our territory for even a day. And our navy's patrols of the Arctic are less than a joke to Russia with their 55+ nuclear subs. The reality is that no matter who decides to invade us we're screwed if the US doesn't help out.

Also I never said BC would be the tie breaker.

Corrected.

Juno Beach, The Battle of the Atlantic. The, quite frankly, mammoth contributions of money, material, and personnel to military forces and civilian population in Europe. Canada was a major part of the Allied victory during WWII.

[EDIT] And the only reason that we don't have nuclear subs is because the US cock-blocked our purchase back when. Besides which, military strength is not a great indicator of power anymore.

[Discutor]

Well unofficially yes.

I'm choosing to be optimistic and hope that Trudeau won't be as authoritarian as Harper was in a majority... but I would have preferred a minority to not even risk it.

I don't see why he'd be.

Because power corrupts. That's how it's always worked and will work until the Earth is swallowed by the Sun.

[Nation of Quebec]

Does anyone remember Ruth Ellen Brosseau? She was known as "Vegas Girl" for having spent her campaign in Vegas in 2011. Looks like she's going back to Ottawa.

[Gim]

They can pass laws without debate.

Well unofficially yes.

I'm choosing to be optimistic and hope that Trudeau won't be as authoritarian as Harper was in a majority... but I would have preferred a minority to not even risk it.

I just hope they do not go full-out on legalizing marijuana.