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Who will you vote for in the federal election?

Conservative (Stephen Harper)
156
30%
Liberal (Justin Trudeau)
117
23%
NDP (Thomas Mulcair)
132
25%
Green Party (Elizabeth May)
25
5%
Bloc Québécois (Gilles Duceppe)
25
5%
Other party please specify
11
2%
Undecided
9
2%
I'm not voting
44
8%
 
Total votes : 519

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:48 pm

Alberta, so far, is getting major Conservative leads.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:49 pm

Lib 73, Con 31, NDP 9, BQ, 1.

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Postby Kelinfort » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:49 pm

Atealia wrote:Well Prairies are going Conservative, No surprise there.

Unless it's a rout, this is certain.

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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:49 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Now that he's won, time for the animated series:

Trudeau: The Last Votebender.

Just keep M. Night the fuck away.

We'll cast Rick Mercer as Trudeau. His barbed tongue will keep Shamalababla away.
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Postby Gim » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:49 pm

CBC projects a Liberal win. Only if that were true.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:49 pm

Alberta has gone blue.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:50 pm

Gim wrote:CBC projects a Liberal win. Only if that were true.

At this point, it seriously looks that way. A minority, at the least.
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Postby Oneracon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:50 pm

Gim wrote:CBC projects a Liberal win. Only if that were true.

It most likely is true, they have some strong math behind their projections and don't declare unless they're really sure.
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Postby Canadian Davsland » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:51 pm

Libs 75, Cons 38, NDP 10, BQ 1.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:51 pm

Geilinor wrote:Alberta has gone blue.

As has the sky, apparently.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:51 pm

Geilinor wrote:Alberta has gone blue.

Wait, isn't that the same Alberta that ousted the Progressive Conservatives a couple of months ago, after decades in power? :eyebrow:
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Postby Kazirstan » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:51 pm

Liriena wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Alberta has gone blue.

Wait, isn't that the same Alberta that ousted the Progressive Conservatives a couple of months ago, after decades in power? :eyebrow:

Naw, that was the other Alberta.

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Postby New Raffica » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:52 pm

Geilinor wrote:Alberta has gone blue.

Not surprised
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:52 pm

Liriena wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Alberta has gone blue.

Wait, isn't that the same Alberta that ousted the Progressive Conservatives a couple of months ago, after decades in power? :eyebrow:

Yep.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:53 pm

Liriena wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Alberta has gone blue.

Wait, isn't that the same Alberta that ousted the Progressive Conservatives a couple of months ago, after decades in power? :eyebrow:

Because they fucked up our finances something fierce, not necessarily because the voters were entirely opposed to the policies being pushed by the PC's. There's very not much voting congruity between municipal, provincial, and federal politics in Canada.
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Postby Discutor » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:54 pm

Camicon wrote:If things stay tight, then BC could very well be the tie breaker.


Pretty sure things are going to be decided before BC's polls even close.

Napkiraly wrote:We've also seen spending on defence as % of GDP drop under him. We've hardly kept up to where we were before.


Canada borders one country...which also happens to be our best ally. In the geopolitical location that we are, we absolutely don't need a military and what we currently have that attempts to pass for one is just a money leach. I say face reality and cut it off. Only thing Canada's military has ever done is stick their nose in other people's wars and manage to make a contribution so insignificant that not even our allies noticed.

Oneracon wrote:You realize that Harper's plan was the same as Obama's, right? The Economic Action Plan was government spending out of an economic slowdown...


I don't care what it's called - I care about the end result, and the end result is a balanced budget. Trudeau's end result is a multi-year depression, if we're lucky.

Oneracon wrote:As for this "balanced budget" fallacy, a balanced budget really means a stagnant economy. You can't grow without controlled spending.


Oh it's a fallacy now? So tell me when do you feel better - when you have $$$ in your pocket or when the bank keeps sending you angry letters with red text? Controlled spending is when you're spending within your limits, not when you're enslaved to the bank till your 40s.

BRICS is the acronym for an association of five major emerging national economies: Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa

Now tell me how many of these guys are achieving their economic growth through deficits and putting their country billions in the hole. What about France, Germany, South Korea? All strong economies and none have achieved that status by taking on debt. Controlled spending is a fallacy people use to justify buying goodies for their generation and then piling all the responsibility of paying for it onto their children and grandchildren.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:54 pm

Camicon wrote:
Liriena wrote:Wait, isn't that the same Alberta that ousted the Progressive Conservatives a couple of months ago, after decades in power? :eyebrow:

Because they fucked up our finances something fierce, not necessarily because the voters were entirely opposed to the policies being pushed by the PC's. There's very not much voting congruity between municipal, provincial, and federal politics in Canada.

Also because the right isn't split. Wild Rose doesn't go national.

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Postby Liriena » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:54 pm

Camicon wrote:
Liriena wrote:Wait, isn't that the same Alberta that ousted the Progressive Conservatives a couple of months ago, after decades in power? :eyebrow:

Because they fucked up our finances something fierce, not necessarily because the voters were entirely opposed to the policies being pushed by the PC's. There's very not much voting congruity between municipal, provincial, and federal politics in Canada.

Fascinating.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:54 pm

Old riding in Winnipeg barely going blue (ahead only by 9 votes). Winnipeg South Centre is going red, not a surprise. It was a surprise they went blue in 2011, which the robocalls played a role in. Good to see them back. Winnipeg as a whole seems to be aiming more towards red and orange, which is a change from the past few previous elections.

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Postby Atealia » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:55 pm

Liriena wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Alberta has gone blue.

Wait, isn't that the same Alberta that ousted the Progressive Conservatives a couple of months ago, after decades in power? :eyebrow:

That was more of a one time thing I believe. Alberta is Blue, in other News Bears still shit in the woods and the Pope is officially Catholic.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:56 pm

Liriena wrote:
Camicon wrote:Because they fucked up our finances something fierce, not necessarily because the voters were entirely opposed to the policies being pushed by the PC's. There's very not much voting congruity between municipal, provincial, and federal politics in Canada.

Fascinating.

Yeah, the current provincial government in Manitoba is the NDP. But Federally it tends to go blue.

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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:56 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Camicon wrote:Because they fucked up our finances something fierce, not necessarily because the voters were entirely opposed to the policies being pushed by the PC's. There's very not much voting congruity between municipal, provincial, and federal politics in Canada.

Also because the right isn't split. Wild Rose doesn't go national.

NDP would have won, even if the PC's had joined the Wild Rose. The WR were just a little too gaffe/crazy prone for most to trust them. Plus, the NDP ran one hell of a campaign.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:57 pm

Liberals win + leading is 102.
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:57 pm

Camicon wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Also because the right isn't split. Wild Rose doesn't go national.

NDP would have won, even if the PC's had joined the Wild Rose. The WR were just a little too gaffe/crazy prone for most to trust them. Plus, the NDP ran one hell of a campaign.


Agreed. I think what really sealed the deal for most people was Prentice's sexist and condescending attitude towards Rachel Notley during the debate.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:57 pm

Discutor wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:If things stay tight, then BC could very well be the tie breaker.


Pretty sure things are going to be decided before BC's polls even close.

Napkiraly wrote:We've also seen spending on defence as % of GDP drop under him. We've hardly kept up to where we were before.


Canada borders one country...which also happens to be our best ally. In the geopolitical location that we are, we absolutely don't need a military and what we currently have that attempts to pass for one is just a money leach. I say face reality and cut it off. Only thing Canada's military has ever done is stick their nose in other people's wars and manage to make a contribution so insignificant that not even our allies noticed.

Someone skipped Canadian history class.

And yes, we do need a military.

Also I never said BC would be the tie breaker.

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