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Who will you vote for in the federal election?

Conservative (Stephen Harper)
156
30%
Liberal (Justin Trudeau)
117
23%
NDP (Thomas Mulcair)
132
25%
Green Party (Elizabeth May)
25
5%
Bloc Québécois (Gilles Duceppe)
25
5%
Other party please specify
11
2%
Undecided
9
2%
I'm not voting
44
8%
 
Total votes : 519

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Camicon
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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:26 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Nickel Empire wrote:They for the most part align with my views. I support them for being supporters of Canada's military and cutting regulations for business's. I did vote for conservative in Election's Canada below 18 voting system thing they got going.

They do not support Canada's military. That can be seen with how hard they hit veterans. They care in the sense of buying more equipment, but give jack shit once you're out.

As I said previously, the person I know who has close ties to the military says a lot of personnel fucking hate Harper right now.

We've also seen spending on defence as % of GDP under him. We've hardly kept up to where we were before.

Not on buying equipment per say, but on saying they're going to buy equipment and then drawing out the requisition process for so long that it eventually gets dropped for being too cost prohibitive.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:27 pm

Camicon wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:They do not support Canada's military. That can be seen with how hard they hit veterans. They care in the sense of buying more equipment, but give jack shit once you're out.

As I said previously, the person I know who has close ties to the military says a lot of personnel fucking hate Harper right now.

We've also seen spending on defence as % of GDP under him. We've hardly kept up to where we were before.

Not on buying equipment per say, but on saying they're going to buy equipment and then drawing out the requisition process for so long that it eventually gets dropped for being too cost prohibitive.
That as well.

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Postby Kazirstan » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:27 pm

Camicon wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:They do not support Canada's military. That can be seen with how hard they hit veterans. They care in the sense of buying more equipment, but give jack shit once you're out.

As I said previously, the person I know who has close ties to the military says a lot of personnel fucking hate Harper right now.

We've also seen spending on defence as % of GDP under him. We've hardly kept up to where we were before.

Not on buying equipment per say, but on saying they're going to buy equipment and then drawing out the requisition process for so long that it eventually gets dropped for being too cost prohibitive.

Didn't they buy like, 8 helicopters or something last year?

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Postby Kelinfort » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:28 pm

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Shrillland wrote:And now, the deluge begins as polls close in all but BC.


You mean the déluge when Trudeau puts us neck-deep into debt again after Harper barely dug us out? All that infrastructure he's planning to renovate is going to be falling apart again 10 years later and we're not gonna have a penny left to fix that. The most important part of government is the system by which it generates cash, because that allows you to invest that cash in building the country.

If you're trying to build the country with cash you don't actually possess, then trying to pay that back using a cash-generation system that's broken because you're in debt...then your next stop is Screwedland. I don't for one second believe that Turdeau is going to follow through on his promise of balancing the budget in 2019.

For example Obama's policy has been to try and spend his way out of an economic slowdown and guess where the US is now? That's right, deeper in debt than ever. Of course the US has the world's largest military and attracts the most investment, so their creditors can't really do shit..except wait for the US's interest payments to be larger than China's entire defence budget.

Ontario - another genius example of trying to spend your way out of a broken economic system. In debt? You betcha. Ontario's load is now the largest of any sub-sovereign borrower and more than double that of California, USA's largest state.

Mfw US economy grows faster than Canada's economy

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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:28 pm

Kazirstan wrote:
Camicon wrote:Not on buying equipment per say, but on saying they're going to buy equipment and then drawing out the requisition process for so long that it eventually gets dropped for being too cost prohibitive.

Didn't they buy like, 8 helicopters or something last year?

All I know is that we're still waiting on all those new icebreakers, so we can patrol our northern shores.
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Postby Ontorisa » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:28 pm

Kazirstan wrote:
Camicon wrote:Not on buying equipment per say, but on saying they're going to buy equipment and then drawing out the requisition process for so long that it eventually gets dropped for being too cost prohibitive.

Didn't they buy like, 8 helicopters or something last year?

Roughly. Probably got our commanders strippers and a martini making machine as well.

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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:28 pm


If I was the opposition leader, I would have gone straight for the jugular over how his case was handled. He deserved far more support and action from the government, and far earlier.

But good to see him doing what so many in his homeland tried fighting and dying for.

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Postby Waldriech » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:29 pm

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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:29 pm

Kazirstan wrote:
Camicon wrote:Not on buying equipment per say, but on saying they're going to buy equipment and then drawing out the requisition process for so long that it eventually gets dropped for being too cost prohibitive.

Didn't they buy like, 8 helicopters or something last year?

The original order was for more iirc. Could be wrong. Then there is the F-35 debacle.

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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:29 pm

Anyone else catch that Murdoch Mysteries bit? Spot-fucking-on.
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Postby Ontorisa » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:30 pm

Napkiraly wrote:

If I was the opposition leader, I would have gone straight for the jugular over how his case was handled. He deserved far more support and action from the government, and far earlier.

But good to see him doing what so many in his homeland tried fighting and dying for.


Literally Mulcair or Truds could've straight up just used that during a debate or speech saying "so what did Canada, under the leadership of Harper, do when its own citizens were unjustly imprisoned in Egypt for weeks upon months?"

Straight fire right there.

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Postby Le Croissant de Beurre » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:30 pm

Camicon wrote:Anyone else catch that Murdoch Mysteries bit? Spot-fucking-on.


I saw it too, it was great. Lol at George.

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Postby Kazirstan » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:30 pm

Camicon wrote:Anyone else catch that Murdoch Mysteries bit? Spot-fucking-on.

That was awesome. Really funny too.

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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:30 pm

Camicon wrote:
Kazirstan wrote:Didn't they buy like, 8 helicopters or something last year?

All I know is that we're still waiting on all those new icebreakers, so we can patrol our northern shores.

I still want Canada to get an amphibious assault ship and new subs dammit. We used to have one of the greatest navies, now look at us. :(

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Postby Canadian Davsland » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:31 pm

Polls are closing from Quebec to Alberta.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:31 pm

Camicon wrote:Anyone else catch that Murdoch Mysteries bit? Spot-fucking-on.


Yeah!

That was great.

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Postby Oneracon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:31 pm

Camicon wrote:Anyone else catch that Murdoch Mysteries bit? Spot-fucking-on.

Loved it, but I'm a sucker for the show in general :D
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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:31 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Camicon wrote:All I know is that we're still waiting on all those new icebreakers, so we can patrol our northern shores.

I still want Canada to get an amphibious assault ship and new subs dammit. We used to have one of the greatest navies, now look at us. :(

Well, we tried to get some nuclear subs from France some decades back, but the US cock-blocked us because they can be assholes like that.
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Postby Shrillland » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:32 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Camicon wrote:Anyone else catch that Murdoch Mysteries bit? Spot-fucking-on.

Loved it, but I'm a sucker for the show in general :D


And now I, the hapless American, will have to start watching it.
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Postby Kelinfort » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:32 pm

Can Trudeau beat the Firelord, Jet, Cabbage Merchant, and Moon Spirit to win the election? Now we find out.
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Postby Le Croissant de Beurre » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:33 pm

Here comes Montreal...

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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:33 pm

Camicon wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:I still want Canada to get an amphibious assault ship and new subs dammit. We used to have one of the greatest navies, now look at us. :(

Well, we tried to get some nuclear subs from France some decades back, but the US cock-blocked us because they can be assholes like that.

We deserve our own nukie subs. :(

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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:33 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Oneracon wrote:Loved it, but I'm a sucker for the show in general :D


And now I, the hapless American, will have to start watching it.

On it's ninth season now. CBC does great period-pieces.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:33 pm

First Quebec polls incoming. Conservatives with a small lead in four ridings, from what's available now.
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