2015 Canadian Election

[Lovable Alien Overlord]

Yeah, it's hard to take Harper seriously when he's been leading us into another recession, never balanced a budget, ruined Canada's reputation on the world stage, and left behind a partisan swamp of corruption and scandal. I'm not sure why you'd call that "not breaking anything".

Perhaps the Libertarian party might be a good party for the dissatisfied Conservative if they can't support the NDP or Liberals.

Don't forget about progressive canada.

Actually, I'd like to make my vote count. I'm not going to vote for joke parties.

[Fanosolia]

Don't forget about progressive canada.

Actually, I'd like to make my vote count. I'm not going to vote for joke parties.

... I'm not getting into some kind of flimsy debate, but hey to humor you, they wouldn't called joke parties if it wasn't for our voting system.

[Lovable Alien Overlord]

Actually, I'd like to make my vote count. I'm not going to vote for joke parties.

... I'm not getting into some kind of flimsy debate, but hey to humor you, they wouldn't called joke parties if it wasn't for our voting system.

Our voting system is fine and produces stable governments. It keeps the riff-raff far away from the heart of our government.

[Fanosolia]

... I'm not getting into some kind of flimsy debate, but hey to humor you, they wouldn't called joke parties if it wasn't for our voting system.

Our voting system is fine and produces stable governments. It keeps the riff-raff far away from the heart of our government.

so the fact that we don't have proportional representation doesn't bother you? Because it produces supposedly keeps "the riff-raft out"? what does that even mean?

[Geilinor]

Our voting system is fine and produces stable governments. It keeps the riff-raff far away from the heart of our government.

so the fact that we don't have proportional representation doesn't bother you? Because it produces supposedly keeps "the riff-raft out"? what does that even mean?

Anyone who uses the word "riff-raff" is an elitist.

[Lovable Alien Overlord]

so the fact that we don't have proportional representation doesn't bother you? Because it produces supposedly keeps "the riff-raft out"? what does that even mean?

Anyone who uses the word "riff-raff" is an elitist.

Really? I'm an elitist? I'm a first time voter who has to go to university soon! I'm just trying to save some money!

[Fanosolia]

so the fact that we don't have proportional representation doesn't bother you? Because it produces supposedly keeps "the riff-raft out"? what does that even mean?

Anyone who uses the word "riff-raff" is an elitist.

or every old timey. I'd like to believe that, but it's probably wrong. Plus to be fair it's sorta hard, at least to me, to not be elitist in politics.

[Nation of Quebec]

The problem with First Past the Post is that it is not fully representative of the population. Only 39% of eligible voters voted Conservative in the last election. That means that the majority of voters voted for other parties, yet we ended up with a Conservative majority.

I personally favor ranked ballots over PR and I'm pleased that Trudeau has promised reforms to our voting system. In his short time as Liberal leader, he has done more for democratic reform than Harper has in the 9 years he's been in power.

[Lovable Alien Overlord]

The problem with First Past the Post is that it is not fully representative of the population. Only 39% of eligible voters voted Conservative in the last election. That means that the majority of voters voted for other parties, yet we ended up with a Conservative majority.

I personally favor ranked ballots over PR and I'm pleased that Trudeau has promised reforms to our voting system. In his short time as Liberal leader, he has done more for democratic reform than Harper has in the 9 years he's been in power.

Again, I'll never vote for the Liberals because of what happened to my grade 12 year. The strikes in Ontario killed it, and now I'm happy with anything that keeps the Liberals out.

[Geilinor]

Anyone who uses the word "riff-raff" is an elitist.

Really? I'm an elitist? I'm a first time voter who has to go to university soon! I'm just trying to save some money!

Who are the "riff-raff" who have to be discouraged from voting in the first place? FPTP discourages people who support minor parties from participating.

[Nation of Quebec]

The problem with First Past the Post is that it is not fully representative of the population. Only 39% of eligible voters voted Conservative in the last election. That means that the majority of voters voted for other parties, yet we ended up with a Conservative majority.

I personally favor ranked ballots over PR and I'm pleased that Trudeau has promised reforms to our voting system. In his short time as Liberal leader, he has done more for democratic reform than Harper has in the 9 years he's been in power.

Again, I'll never vote for the Liberals because of what happened to my grade 12 year. The strikes in Ontario killed it, and now I'm happy with anything that keeps the Liberals out.

So you're admitting you're a partisan who supports an unfair system just to punish a party you have a vendetta against?

Also, the federal Liberals had nothing to do with the teacher's strikes.

[Fanosolia]

The problem with First Past the Post is that it is not fully representative of the population. Only 39% of eligible voters voted Conservative in the last election. That means that the majority of voters voted for other parties, yet we ended up with a Conservative majority.

I personally favor ranked ballots over PR and I'm pleased that Trudeau has promised reforms to our voting system. In his short time as Liberal leader, he has done more for democratic reform than Harper has in the 9 years he's been in power.

I personally like the idea of STV. Depending who gets voted in, you end up helping some of the small parties gain some traction, like the greens, Pirate party, even CAP. That being said, I don't mind PR, I just rather be picking the mp, instead of being appointed one by the party if the party wins seats.

[Lovable Alien Overlord]

Really? I'm an elitist? I'm a first time voter who has to go to university soon! I'm just trying to save some money!

Who are the "riff-raff" who have to be discouraged from voting in the first place? FPTP discourages people who support minor parties from participating.

Discouraged from voting? I never said anything about that. I was talking about political parties that are pointless and should probably be kept out so people who have a chance at winning can get a fair shot. Don't split the vote!

[Lovable Alien Overlord]

Again, I'll never vote for the Liberals because of what happened to my grade 12 year. The strikes in Ontario killed it, and now I'm happy with anything that keeps the Liberals out.

So you're admitting you're a partisan who supports an unfair system just to punish a party you have a vendetta against?

Also, the federal Liberals had nothing to do with the teacher's strikes.

Same party, same ideas. Both are fake and dress up behind the idea of liberalism. At least Harper is clearly a conservative.

If Justin Trudeau is going to pursue policies that are even remotely similar to Kathleen Wynne's, that's good enough for me.

[Nation of Quebec]

So you're admitting you're a partisan who supports an unfair system just to punish a party you have a vendetta against?

Also, the federal Liberals had nothing to do with the teacher's strikes.

Same party, same ideas. Both are fake and dress up behind the idea of liberalism. At least Harper is clearly a conservative.

If Justin Trudeau is going to pursue policies that are even remotely similar to Kathleen Wynne's, that's good enough for me.

Harper a conservative? Don't make me laugh. He may be a social conservative, but he has lost the right to call himself a fiscal conservative with the way he's been spending lately.

[Lovable Alien Overlord]

Same party, same ideas. Both are fake and dress up behind the idea of liberalism. At least Harper is clearly a conservative.

If Justin Trudeau is going to pursue policies that are even remotely similar to Kathleen Wynne's, that's good enough for me.

Harper a conservative? Don't make me laugh. He may be a social conservative, but he has lost the right to call himself a fiscal conservative with the way he's been spending lately.

He's a sensible conservative, and the budget deficit has continuously declined since 2008.

If anything, the fake Liberals are more conservative than him, but they aren't open about it. Remember that Jean Chretien balanced the budget on the backs of ordinary people, while Harper has been sensible and not overzealous. He is a conservative I can believe in, and not someone who pretends to be something he's not.

[Nation of Quebec]

Harper a conservative? Don't make me laugh. He may be a social conservative, but he has lost the right to call himself a fiscal conservative with the way he's been spending lately.

He's a sensible conservative, and the budget deficit has continuously declined since 2008.

If anything, the fake Liberals are more conservative than him, but they aren't open about it. Remember that Jean Chretien balanced the budget on the backs of ordinary people, while Harper has been sensible and not overzealous. He is a conservative I can believe in, and not someone who pretends to be something he's not.

Where are you getting your facts from? Harper hasn't balanced the budget since he came into power and has increased the national debt. Sensible is one thing Harper isn't. He took the surplus from Chretien and Martin and turned it into a deficit.

The billions he's planning on giving away on vote-buying policies like income splitting (which even the late Jim Flaherty spoke out against), the UCCB, and other boutique tax credits won't help to bring down the deficit either. If anything they'll be adding to it.

[Lovable Alien Overlord]

He's a sensible conservative, and the budget deficit has continuously declined since 2008.

If anything, the fake Liberals are more conservative than him, but they aren't open about it. Remember that Jean Chretien balanced the budget on the backs of ordinary people, while Harper has been sensible and not overzealous. He is a conservative I can believe in, and not someone who pretends to be something he's not.

Where are you getting your facts from? Harper hasn't balanced the budget since he came into power and has increased the national debt. Sensible is one thing Harper isn't. He took the surplus from Chretien and Martin and turned it into a deficit.

The billions he's planning on giving away on vote-buying policies like income splitting (which even the late Jim Flaherty spoke out against), the UCCB, and other boutique tax credits won't help to bring down the deficit either. If anything they'll be adding to it.

The bottom line is that I will vote for the Conservatives because all the other parties have ruled themselves out. By process of elimination, I feel compelled to vote for them. Rest assured that I will.

[Nation of Quebec]

Where are you getting your facts from? Harper hasn't balanced the budget since he came into power and has increased the national debt. Sensible is one thing Harper isn't. He took the surplus from Chretien and Martin and turned it into a deficit.

The billions he's planning on giving away on vote-buying policies like income splitting (which even the late Jim Flaherty spoke out against), the UCCB, and other boutique tax credits won't help to bring down the deficit either. If anything they'll be adding to it.

The bottom line is that I will vote for the Conservatives because all the other parties have ruled themselves out. By process of elimination, I feel compelled to vote for them. Rest assured that I will.

That is your right and rest assured that I will be voting against the Conservatives because of their corruption, dishonesty, and failed policies.

If these had been the respectable Progressive Conservatives of old I would have considered voting for them, but sadly there are few of the original PCs left. What we are left with is the corrupt shell of a once proud party.

[Ainin]

It's not BC'S call, given cross provincial infrastructure is federal jurisdiction.

Provinces don't have final authority on approval, but they can throw insurmountable regulatory hurdles into their construction.

Northern Gateway is pretty much dead. The BC government is adamantly opposed and Alberta has all but given up. Enbridge has shelved the project. Energy East might end up with the same fate because of opposition from the government of Quebec and extremely strict environmental regulation in the lower Saint Lawrence.

[Kubra]

Anyone who uses the word "riff-raff" is an elitist.

Really? I'm an elitist? I'm a first time voter who has to go to university soon! I'm just trying to save some money!

oh gosh, they give first year riff-raff suffrage? This country has gone to the dogs. We could have a dominant whig party, were it not for such nonsense.

[Geilinor]

Harper a conservative? Don't make me laugh. He may be a social conservative, but he has lost the right to call himself a fiscal conservative with the way he's been spending lately.

He's a sensible conservative, and the budget deficit has continuously declined since 2008.

If anything, the fake Liberals are more conservative than him, but they aren't open about it. Remember that Jean Chretien balanced the budget on the backs of ordinary people, while Harper has been sensible and not overzealous. He is a conservative I can believe in, and not someone who pretends to be something he's not.

The Liberals aren't more conservative than Harper. They've shown themselves to support funding for beneficial social programs and can grow an economy.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Really? I'm an elitist? I'm a first time voter who has to go to university soon! I'm just trying to save some money!

oh gosh, they give first year riff-raff suffrage? This country has gone to the dogs. We could have a dominant whig party, were it not for such nonsense.

Did you see how he admitted he was not coming for the Liberals purely out of spite? Yet further proof that the youth are far too emotionally unstable to vote. Why, imagine what sort of chaos would reign if all those hormonal teenagers were to influence our sober politicians!

[Kubra]

oh gosh, they give first year riff-raff suffrage? This country has gone to the dogs. We could have a dominant whig party, were it not for such nonsense.

Did you see how he admitted he was not coming for the Liberals purely out of spite? Yet further proof that the youth are far too emotionally unstable to vote. Why, imagine what sort of chaos would reign if all those hormonal teenagers were to influence our sober politicians!

indeed. All that could come of such is anarchy and rights for the irish!

[Democratic Socialist States of Africa]

The problem with First Past the Post is that it is not fully representative of the population. Only 39% of eligible voters voted Conservative in the last election. That means that the majority of voters voted for other parties, yet we ended up with a Conservative majority.

I personally favor ranked ballots over PR and I'm pleased that Trudeau has promised reforms to our voting system. In his short time as Liberal leader, he has done more for democratic reform than Harper has in the 9 years he's been in power.

I liked the Liberal Party till I found out that they were supporting Bill C-51. I really don't mind them but that made me go for the NDP.