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Only one will survive, I wonder who it will be...

Gandalf the White (Lord of the Rings)
19
31%
Rand al'Thor (Wheel of Time)
2
3%
Richard Rahl (Sword of truth)
5
8%
Raistlin Majere (Dragonlance)
8
13%
Milamber (Riftwar Saga)
1
2%
The White Witch (Narnia)
1
2%
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld)
14
23%
Xykon (Order of the Stick)
4
7%
Oberon of Amber (Chronicles of Amber)
1
2%
Albus Dumbledore (Harry Potter)
6
10%
 
Total votes : 61

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Re: All-out Thaumaturgical War

Postby Vojvodina-Nihon » Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:14 am

I only recognize four of these characters. Do I lose my geek points?

(Of the ones I know about, I'm going with Granny Weatherwax.)
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Re: All-out Thaumaturgical War

Postby NERVUN » Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:17 pm

Non Aligned States wrote:If you mean exploding people with thought, meh, WoT has that too. The Seanchean and Ashaman use that as their standard attack.

Still though, I don't see how errasing people out of history is all that needful.

Who knows? None of the other candidates have had a big enough ego to want to do that, so it never came up.

Neither did Garion, as he told the Orb, "That was just an example, not a suggestion!"

Ah, so I got it wrong.

Either case, it's still unimpressive. The Orb did the heavy work, Belgarion was just there to get it from scabbard to chest.

Well, given that Garion is one of three people able to actually touch the Orb and given that even gods die if they touch the damn thing, I'd say it's pretty important. Besides, he did the whole get bigger trick AND picked a fight with a dark god/personification of the Dark while a teen.

Now, do YOU go around doing that? I think not. :p
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Re: All-out Thaumaturgical War

Postby Non Aligned States » Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:42 pm

NERVUN wrote:Still though, I don't see how errasing people out of history is all that needful.


It's useful. Taking a real world context, say you zap GW Bush with a really high charge Balefire. Bam! Dick Cheney becomes President. Ok, bad result, not powerful enough. Hit him with an even higher charge today, and Al Gore becomes the only candidate left to run for Presidency, Saddam Hussein springs back to life, Iraq doesn't look like a mahjong table, and Afghanistan is properly policed with sufficient manpower.

See how useful it can be? It's like time travel assassination, but without going back in time yourself.

NERVUN wrote:Neither did Garion, as he told the Orb, "That was just an example, not a suggestion!"


Yes, but he did raise the issue all the same. None of the others did.

NERVUN wrote:Well, given that Garion is one of three people able to actually touch the Orb and given that even gods die if they touch the damn thing, I'd say it's pretty important.


Well, the access keys were also fairly important, since Lanfear did the whole "With these, we can overthrow the Dark One, overthrow the Creator, and take their places", e.g. become gods themselves.

Of course using these were like overclocking your PC to 5000% base performance on a standard fan cooling system. Rather hazardous if you didn't have the capacity to use them.

NERVUN wrote:Besides, he did the whole get bigger trick AND picked a fight with a dark god/personification of the Dark while a teen.

Now, do YOU go around doing that? I think not. :p


We're kinda lacking in dark gods to smite these days, not to mention artifacts of world smashing power. I'll get to it when you provide me with the latter at least. :p

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Re: All-out Thaumaturgical War

Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:54 pm

NERVUN wrote:...picked a fight with a dark god/personification of the Dark while a teen.

Now, do YOU go around doing that? I think not. :p


Rand did, though, didn't he?
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Re: All-out Thaumaturgical War

Postby Non Aligned States » Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:58 pm

JuNii wrote:summoned Demons and controlled them


Hard to say that demon summoning qualifies as a direct magic spell, but fair enough.

JuNii wrote:, access to divine magic (Polgara has affected muscle control in others the prophet of min's neice's eyes for example, summoning Aldur, summoning her mother, etc...)


I'm not sure how that's divine magic. Going by what Polgara said about the prophet's niece, it could be the niece's own work with Polgara's advice that fixed them. Summoning her mother and Aldur is not much since both are mucking around just out of sight to begin with.

JuNii wrote:Teleportation of self and others, weather control, dispelling other's 'spells' and affecting their phsysical qualities (removal of shadows for example) speaking with animals, Telepathy, mass sheilding from scrying, etc...

and don't forget those attacks that they 'rebuffed'.


Animal speaking isn't much, since some prospector dude who wasn't even a sorcerer learned wolf speak, but I'll give you the rest.

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Postby Third Spanish States » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:06 pm

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Re: All-out Thaumaturgical War

Postby JuNii » Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:59 am

Non Aligned States wrote:
JuNii wrote:summoned Demons and controlled them


Hard to say that demon summoning qualifies as a direct magic spell, but fair enough.
I do believe Belgarath explained the difference between the demon summoning and 'sorcery'. yes, it is a magic spell, just a different type.

Non Aligned States wrote:
JuNii wrote:, access to divine magic (Polgara has affected muscle control in others the prophet of min's neice's eyes for example, summoning Aldur, summoning her mother, etc...)


I'm not sure how that's divine magic. Going by what Polgara said about the prophet's niece, it could be the niece's own work with Polgara's advice that fixed them. Summoning her mother and Aldur is not much since both are mucking around just out of sight to begin with.
still, a feat that requires what one can term 'magic'.

Non Aligned States wrote:
JuNii wrote:Teleportation of self and others, weather control, dispelling other's 'spells' and affecting their phsysical qualities (removal of shadows for example) speaking with animals, Telepathy, mass sheilding from scrying, etc...

and don't forget those attacks that they 'rebuffed'.


Animal speaking isn't much, since some prospector dude who wasn't even a sorcerer learned wolf speak, but I'll give you the rest.
again, we don't know that. since those termed 'Sorcerers' tend to manifest their talent rather suddenly and for the most time, end up blowing themselves up. :lol:

as for the prospector... he's longed lived and has the sight, whos to say that he's NOT a sorcerer. Even Belgarath couldn't say for shure.
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