[US Election 2016] Democratic Primary Megathread

[Arlenton]

Bernie can win if his opponent is Perry or Trump or any number of other fanatics with difficulty appealing to anyone. Against a reasonable, smart candidate like Rubio or Walker or maybe Bush he'd have a harder time, but his electoral advantage might let him win if he runs an excellent campaign.

I don't know about that, Hillary has more skeletons in her closet than he does. The only opponent Bernie has to go up against is the money, Lebowski.

I really don't see how Sanders would be able to win a general election, against a legit GOP candidate. Like at all.

Polls show he's doing fine so far early in this game.

The further left candidates have recently been getting less of the minority vote in Democratic primaries than the establishment candidates, Obama in 2008 was the exception for obvious reasons. Knowing this, Sanders would likely have a harder time motivating minorities in the general election than someone like Hillary or O'Malley.

It's all about the money, Lebowski.

With the possibility of Jeb as the Republican nominee, Sanders can't afford any loss in Hispanic support given Jeb's brother got 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004 (If the Republican nominee keeps Romney's 53% of the white vote and gets back Bush's 44% in the Hispanic vote, they win California).

Maybe back in 2004, but this is a decade later and Jeb ain't doing better with the Latino votes at all, LOL.

A Sanders campaign would be annihilated when it comes to fundraising, he would lose a bunch of corporate donors who have in the past supported Democrats and would motivate GOP donors to give the Republican candidate record breaking sums. Something similar to this happened in 1972, except this time Sanders is an outspoken democratic socialist and the corporations will not be punished thanks to CU. I really wouldn't be surprised if the GOP candidate comes up with nearly $2 Billion. Also the fact that a democratic socialist is on the Democratic ticket would basically motivate every Republican to get to the polls, and would make moderate Democrats hesitate.

That's all it takes to destroy any integrity Sanders have if he accepted Corporate donors. And then Americans would be stuck with the same bullshit again!

Considering Bush in 2004 got more votes in Ohio than Obama did in 2012, that could be a serious problem for a Sanders campaign. I am comfortable making the prediction that against an establishment Republican, Sanders has no chance.

Sounds like you might be underestimating Sanders just like those who underestimated Obama in 2008. Even the Established News Media had to grudgingly acknowledge his presence, one they never wanted to do, but his popularity is skyrocketing and is just behind Hillary.

Yea, still not seeing it. He will be crushed. Donate to Bernie Sander's website to prove me wrong though.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I'd prefer bipartisan as in Socialists and Communists, but that's good too.

That's not terribly specific, given the dozens of Socialist and Communist parties.

In America? The SPUSA and CPUSA?

[Atlanticatia]

That's not terribly specific, given the dozens of Socialist and Communist parties.

In America? The SPUSA and CPUSA?

The CPUSA is pretty moderate these days.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

The CPUSA is pretty moderate these days.

I can't call them the Communists anymore?

[Mysterious Stranger 2]

The republicans thought Obama was a socialist anyway. How much do we lose by running an actual socialist?

[United Prefectures of Appia]

Yea, still not seeing it. He will be crushed. Donate to Bernie Sander's website to prove me wrong though.

If he's gonna be crushed, it's certainly not going to be any of the candidates, both Democrats and Republicans.

[Arlenton]

Yea, still not seeing it. He will be crushed. Donate to Bernie Sander's website to prove me wrong though.

If he's gonna be crushed, it's certainly not going to be any of the candidates, both Democrats and Republicans.

Will it be by the Green party or the return of Ross Perot?

[MERIZoC]

The republicans thought Obama was a socialist anyway. How much do we lose by running an actual socialist?

See, by now people are desensitized to the word. Something like 35% of Americans react positively to it.

[MERIZoC]

That's not terribly specific, given the dozens of Socialist and Communist parties.

In America? The SPUSA and CPUSA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Socialist_parties_in_the_United_States

[Arlenton]

In America? The SPUSA and CPUSA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Socialist_parties_in_the_United_States

There's quite a few socialist parties, I bet they all argue about what socialism actually is like socialists on the internet.

[United Prefectures of Appia]

If he's gonna be crushed, it's certainly not going to be any of the candidates, both Democrats and Republicans.

Will it be by the Green party or the return of Ross Perot?

Nope, just the corrupted political system currently in place.

[Lykens]

The republicans thought Obama was a socialist anyway. How much do we lose by running an actual socialist?

See, by now people are desensitized to the word. Something like 35% of Americans react positively to it.

I saw a poll a few days ago that more people would not vote for a socialist than would vote for.

I'll go find it.

[The Great Trade Federation]

I hope for Sanders but it will probably be Clinton.

[Lykens]

Fourth seven percent of people would vote for a socialist, and fifty percent would not.

Of course those aren't Bernie's specific poll numbers, that's something to take into account. But ninety one percent of people would vote for a Jewish person, maybe he'll pick up the slack there.

[Fremont Forest]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Socialist_parties_in_the_United_States

There's quite a few socialist parties, I bet they all argue about what socialism actually is like socialists on the internet.

That is actually quite accurate. Most leftist parties are splintered off from older leftist parties which themselves splintered off of even older leftist parties largely because of disagreements over who was the more pure socialist/communist/anarchist.

[Geilinor]

Fourth seven percent of people would vote for a socialist, and fifty percent would not.

Of course those aren't Bernie's specific poll numbers, that's something to take into account. But ninety one percent of people would vote for a Jewish person, maybe he'll pick up the slack there.

"A socialist" is very general to start with and there aren't many major socialist politicians in this country.

[Genivaria]

The republicans thought Obama was a socialist anyway. How much do we lose by running an actual socialist?

See, by now people are desensitized to the word. Something like 35% of Americans react positively to it.

Thanks Fox News+

[DBJ]

Anyone running who'll defend the intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, supports enhanced interrogation techniques and generally isn't a pussy when it comes to foreign policy?

[Genivaria]

Anyone running who'll defend the intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, supports enhanced interrogation techniques and generally isn't a pussy when it comes to foreign policy?

Anyone who defends those wars or torture is an idiot.

[MERIZoC]

Anyone running who'll defend the intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, supports enhanced interrogation techniques and generally isn't a pussy when it comes to foreign policy?

No, the lineup is pretty much sane.

[Diopolis]

Anyone running who'll defend the intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, supports enhanced interrogation techniques and generally isn't a pussy when it comes to foreign policy?

You're in the wrong thread for that. The republicans have a handful of candidates who might be up your alley.

[Arlenton]

Anyone running who'll defend the intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, supports enhanced interrogation techniques and generally isn't a pussy when it comes to foreign policy?

Wrong party.

[Arlenton]

There's quite a few socialist parties, I bet they all argue about what socialism actually is like socialists on the internet.

That is actually quite accurate. Most leftist parties are splintered off from older leftist parties which themselves splintered off of even older leftist parties largely because of disagreements over who was the more pure socialist/communist/anarchist.

That just seems hillarious.

[Borgovia]

Anyone running who'll defend the intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, supports enhanced interrogation techniques and generally isn't a pussy when it comes to foreign policy?

Hilary Clinton is the most likely to do that. However, given the opinions of voters, she might not go for it.

[Roosevelt and Truman]

Anyone running who'll defend the intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, supports enhanced interrogation techniques and generally isn't a pussy when it comes to foreign policy?

Hilary Clinton is the most likely to do that. However, given the opinions of voters, she might not go for it.

Most likely? Sure. But so far she has openly recanted her vote for Iraq (and one of Obama's key advisors during the withdrawal), has supported diplomacy with Iran/Cuba, etc.