[US Election 2016] Democratic Primary Megathread

[Twilight Imperium]

Supreme Court justices are in for life. His death means we don't have to deal with him anymore.

Ding dong~!

There's no reason to gloat over his death, because you have disagreements with what his political positions were.

You and I will not agree on this, so I'll bow out.

while humming

[The United Territories of Providence]

According to The WhiteHouse, President Obama will nominate a new Supreme Court Justice.

[USS Monitor]

I decided to use isidewith.com to see how well the results there match with my impressions of the candidates that I've formed by looking at election coverage. Apparently, I agree with Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein about a lot of things, and Rubio is just a big ball of wrongness.

According to The WhiteHouse, President Obama will nominate a new Supreme Court Justice.

He should do that.

[Twilight Imperium]

Moments After Scalia’s Death Is Confirmed, GOP Senate Staffer Pledges To Block Any Obama Replacement

[New Jerzylvania]

According to The WhiteHouse, President Obama will nominate a new Supreme Court Justice.

He'd be correctly perceived as extremely weak if he doesn't.

[Valrifell]

Moments After Scalia’s Death Is Confirmed, GOP Senate Staffer Pledges To Block Any Obama Replacement

How... disappointingly expected.

[New Jerzylvania]

Moments After Scalia’s Death Is Confirmed, GOP Senate Staffer Pledges To Block Any Obama Replacement

Mitch McConnell, the man that said in November 2008 that his goal was to make Obama a one term failed president. Same asshole shit from Mitch. BTW, Mitch failed then too.

[Wallonesia]

Moments After Scalia’s Death Is Confirmed, GOP Senate Staffer Pledges To Block Any Obama Replacement

Oh, what a surprise

[Wallonesia]

I'm intrigued of the chances that Sanders could run as an Independent if, most likely, he concedes the ticket to HRC.

By the name of people power, would he thrive or would he pull off another Nader v Gore in the general elections?


Sincerely, not an American yet enthusiastic about the state of the race

[Ashmoria]

I'm intrigued of the chances that Sanders could run as an Independent if, most likely, he concedes the ticket to HRC.

By the name of people power, would he thrive or would he pull off another Nader v Gore in the general elections?


Sincerely, not an American yet enthusiastic about the state of the race

he wont do it.

[USS Monitor]

I'm intrigued of the chances that Sanders could run as an Independent if, most likely, he concedes the ticket to HRC.

By the name of people power, would he thrive or would he pull off another Nader v Gore in the general elections?


Sincerely, not an American yet enthusiastic about the state of the race

I don't think he would run as an independent.

TBH, I probably wouldn't vote for him if he did, even though I like him. If you run in a primary and lose, you need to bow out for the good of your party. If you don't respect the party enough to do that, then you should run as an independent from the beginning and not stick your nose in other people's primaries. It's just being a bad sport to stay in the race if you lose the primaries. That's part of what caused the Civil War. Of course, there was a powderkeg of underlying issues with slavery and all that, but the reason the 1860 election set it off is because some Democrats decided to run against each other instead of uniting behind just one candidate.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I'm intrigued of the chances that Sanders could run as an Independent if, most likely, he concedes the ticket to HRC.

By the name of people power, would he thrive or would he pull off another Nader v Gore in the general elections?


Sincerely, not an American yet enthusiastic about the state of the race

Sanders has openly stated that he will not run as an independent, and will, if he is not the nominee, support the Democratic nominee in the general election. His reasoning is that the Republican field is so horrifying that this is no time to play games.

[Galloism]

I'm intrigued of the chances that Sanders could run as an Independent if, most likely, he concedes the ticket to HRC.

By the name of people power, would he thrive or would he pull off another Nader v Gore in the general elections?


Sincerely, not an American yet enthusiastic about the state of the race

Sanders has openly stated that he will not run as an independent, and will, if he is not the nominee, support the Democratic nominee in the general election. His reasoning is that the Republican field is so horrifying that this is no time to play games.

Well, he's got his head planted firmly on his shoulders.

[USS Monitor]

I'm intrigued of the chances that Sanders could run as an Independent if, most likely, he concedes the ticket to HRC.

By the name of people power, would he thrive or would he pull off another Nader v Gore in the general elections?


Sincerely, not an American yet enthusiastic about the state of the race

Sanders has openly stated that he will not run as an independent, and will, if he is not the nominee, support the Democratic nominee in the general election. His reasoning is that the Republican field is so horrifying that this is no time to play games.

Well, he is right about the Republicans. They are pretty horrifying.

[Myrensis]

Not funny. Hate him as much as you want, but don't gloat over his death.

Oh yes, and when they try to hold up any appointment Obama tries to make, it will boost Democratic turnout in the general. This can only benefit the democrats in underscoring the obstructionist policies of the GOP.
The gridlock in DC which makes the electorate so angry can be hung freshly around their neck.

Pretty much, and yet the GOP doesn't have any choice. Not just because their base demands obstruction and tantrum throwing, but because Scalia was one of the most shamelessly partisan conservative Judges on the bench, him being replaced by a more liberal or moderate Justice would be an absolute disaster for them.

[Wallonesia]

Sanders has openly stated that he will not run as an independent, and will, if he is not the nominee, support the Democratic nominee in the general election. His reasoning is that the Republican field is so horrifying that this is no time to play games.

Well, he is right about the Republicans. They are pretty horrifying.

OK, I got the idea that it's nearly impossible for Bernie to do that, and I agree that its unsportsmanlike to do such thing. But if he really went for the Independent ticket would it really break the set of Democratic voters?

Looking back at IA and NH mainstream members of Dem backed Hillary but so-called "millennials", new age groups and first-time voters supported Sanders, therefore explaining his victory in the FITN primary, hands-down. They held an overwhelming number of votes in NH, likewise in the whole nation. So could he win the election if it was a three way race including him, a GOP and Hillary?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Well, he is right about the Republicans. They are pretty horrifying.

OK, I got the idea that it's nearly impossible for Bernie to do that, and I agree that its unsportsmanlike to do such thing. But if he really went for the Independent ticket would it really break the set of Democratic voters?

Looking back at IA and NH mainstream members of Dem backed Hillary but so-called "millennials", new age groups and first-time voters supported Sanders, therefore explaining his victory in the FITN primary, hands-down. They held an overwhelming number of votes in NH, likewise in the whole nation. So could he win the election if it was a three way race including him, a GOP and Hillary?

He would absolutely draw a good amount of the Democratic base away from Clinton. However, I doubt that it would be sufficient to do anything but to put the GOP nominee in the White House.

[USS Monitor]

Well, he is right about the Republicans. They are pretty horrifying.

OK, I got the idea that it's nearly impossible for Bernie to do that, and I agree that its unsportsmanlike to do such thing. But if he really went for the Independent ticket would it really break the set of Democratic voters?

Looking back at IA and NH mainstream members of Dem backed Hillary but so-called "millennials", new age groups and first-time voters supported Sanders, therefore explaining his victory in the FITN primary, hands-down. They held an overwhelming number of votes in NH, likewise in the whole nation. So could he win the election if it was a three way race including him, a GOP and Hillary?

I don't think so because there's a huge number of people that don't vote in the Democratic primaries who will be voting in the general election. For example, there are Republicans.

[Trumpostan]

Not funny. Hate him as much as you want, but don't gloat over his death.

Correct. He was about 79 and people can be expected to pass away at that age, especially men. We should respect the dead.

However, the timing of his death will not be something the right will be happy with and we can be grateful the timing leaves enough room within the remaining Obama Presidency to make the next appointment.

Oh yes, and when they try to hold up any appointment Obama tries to make, it will boost Democratic turnout in the general. This can only benefit the democrats in underscoring the obstructionist policies of the GOP.
The gridlock in DC which makes the electorate so angry can be hung freshly around their neck.

That's exactly what should be done. Nominate a good liberal by the end of march and make the republicans obstruct, block and throw temper tantrums. Then follow up ith campaign ads: GOP obstructionists strike again(like the last 7 yeats).

Everything must be done to wipe the stench of Scalia's bigotry away by finding someone who is not a major league right wing bigot.

[Trumpostan]

Moments After Scalia’s Death Is Confirmed, GOP Senate Staffer Pledges To Block Any Obama Replacement

The corpse was still warm when the obstructionist America haters declared they were going to obstruct because they hate America. The GOP fears there could be permanently one less bigot in the SCOTUS.

[Myrensis]

Well, he is right about the Republicans. They are pretty horrifying.

OK, I got the idea that it's nearly impossible for Bernie to do that, and I agree that its unsportsmanlike to do such thing. But if he really went for the Independent ticket would it really break the set of Democratic voters?

Looking back at IA and NH mainstream members of Dem backed Hillary but so-called "millennials", new age groups and first-time voters supported Sanders, therefore explaining his victory in the FITN primary, hands-down. They held an overwhelming number of votes in NH, likewise in the whole nation. So could he win the election if it was a three way race including him, a GOP and Hillary?

The only thing Sanders running independent will accomplish is splitting the Democrat vote and handing Republicans the White House. Even Trump could probably win under those circumstances.

Though frankly this is a concern anyway with some of his supporters and this 'Bernie or Bust' nonsense. Apparently giving Republicans complete control of Congress and the White House, almost certainly at least one if not several Supreme Court appointments, and otherwise paving the way for the progressive agenda to be crushed into the dirt for a generation is, in the minds of all these oh so wise college kids, better than settling for a candidate who only agrees with them 90% of the time.

[Wallonesia]

I don't think so because there's a huge number of people that don't vote in the Democratic primaries who will be voting in the general election. For example, there are Republicans.

Didn't we all agree on "republicans win only when voter turnout is low"? If a candidate is popular enough to lure the whole undecided lot, surely anything could happen

[Camicon]

OK, I got the idea that it's nearly impossible for Bernie to do that, and I agree that its unsportsmanlike to do such thing. But if he really went for the Independent ticket would it really break the set of Democratic voters?

Looking back at IA and NH mainstream members of Dem backed Hillary but so-called "millennials", new age groups and first-time voters supported Sanders, therefore explaining his victory in the FITN primary, hands-down. They held an overwhelming number of votes in NH, likewise in the whole nation. So could he win the election if it was a three way race including him, a GOP and Hillary?

The only thing Sanders running independent will accomplish is splitting the Democrat vote and handing Republicans the White House. Even Trump could probably win under those circumstances.

Though frankly this is a concern anyway with some of his supporters and this 'Bernie or Bust' nonsense. Apparently giving Republicans complete control of Congress and the White House, almost certainly at least one if not several Supreme Court appointments, and otherwise paving the way for the progressive agenda to be crushed into the dirt for a generation is, in the minds of all these oh so wise college kids, better than settling for a candidate who only agrees with them 90% of the time.

Nobody is actually that stupid. If Clinton wins the nomination, Sanders will throw his support behind her, and urge everyone who supported him to vote for her. And they will, because the alternative is probably going to be too terrifying to contemplate.

[Conserative Morality]

Though frankly this is a concern anyway with some of his supporters and this 'Bernie or Bust' nonsense. Apparently giving Republicans complete control of Congress and the White House, almost certainly at least one if not several Supreme Court appointments, and otherwise paving the way for the progressive agenda to be crushed into the dirt for a generation is, in the minds of all these oh so wise college kids, better than settling for a candidate who only agrees with them 90% of the time.

Right, because electing a reed in the political winds who 'agrees' with us 90% of the time primarily because Bernie has pulled her to the left because if she doesn't pander somewhat to his base, she'll lose, with a long history of rather unsavory actions, significantly disliked among independent voters, trusted by just about no one and who talks down to us is prime candidate material for us, and means that the already-politically involved will not vote for third-parties for president and Democrats downticket.

But no, it's that Hillary isn't PERFECT. You got us. I agree with Bernie 100% of the time.

[Corrian]

The only thing Sanders running independent will accomplish is splitting the Democrat vote and handing Republicans the White House. Even Trump could probably win under those circumstances.

Though frankly this is a concern anyway with some of his supporters and this 'Bernie or Bust' nonsense. Apparently giving Republicans complete control of Congress and the White House, almost certainly at least one if not several Supreme Court appointments, and otherwise paving the way for the progressive agenda to be crushed into the dirt for a generation is, in the minds of all these oh so wise college kids, better than settling for a candidate who only agrees with them 90% of the time.

Yeah, like I actually agree with Hillary 90% of the time. I don't even know what I agree with her on due to her unreliability.

However, I do think the "Bernie or Bust" thing is stupid. I'll just probably vote for a different candidate if he doesn't win.