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Who Do You Support In The Democratic Primaries?

Hillary Clinton
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Postby New Giliberafta » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:35 pm

Faustian Fantasies wrote:Guys, it's probably best to just stick to the topic of the thread and not get baited into anybody's immaturity.

Agreed.

Now I have a question

How will Bernie do in Nevada?
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Postby Faustian Fantasies » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:37 pm

New Giliberafta wrote:
Faustian Fantasies wrote:Guys, it's probably best to just stick to the topic of the thread and not get baited into anybody's immaturity.

Agreed.

Now I have a question

How will Bernie do in Nevada?


At this rate, poorly, in all probability. Unless he finds the golden key in South Carolina in terms of attracting non-white voters. He's already gained momentum in that area. We'll see if he can gain enough.

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Postby Neu California » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:37 pm

New Giliberafta wrote:
Faustian Fantasies wrote:Guys, it's probably best to just stick to the topic of the thread and not get baited into anybody's immaturity.

Agreed.

Now I have a question

How will Bernie do in Nevada?


Unknown. There have been no polls there since December according to FiveThirtyEight
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Postby Eskandapolis » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:37 pm

Hillary was trying way too hard to pander to Bernie's crowd

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Postby Corrian » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:38 pm

Over 20% lead for Bernie in New Hampshire right now.
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Postby Faustian Fantasies » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:38 pm

Neu California wrote:
New Giliberafta wrote:Agreed.

Now I have a question

How will Bernie do in Nevada?


Unknown. There have been no polls there since December according to FiveThirtyEight


Interesting. I didn't know this.

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Postby Neu California » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:38 pm

Faustian Fantasies wrote:
New Giliberafta wrote:Agreed.

Now I have a question

How will Bernie do in Nevada?


At this rate, poorly, in all probability. Unless he finds the golden key in South Carolina in terms of attracting non-white voters. He's already gained momentum in that area. We'll see if he can gain enough.

How is SC relevant to Bernie's chances in Nevada? the South Carolina primary takes place a week after the NV caucuses.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:40 pm

Corrian wrote:Over 20% lead for Bernie in New Hampshire right now.

Feel that? That's a third degree bern.
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Postby Faustian Fantasies » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:41 pm

Neu California wrote:
Faustian Fantasies wrote:
At this rate, poorly, in all probability. Unless he finds the golden key in South Carolina in terms of attracting non-white voters. He's already gained momentum in that area. We'll see if he can gain enough.

How is SC relevant to Bernie's chances in Nevada? the South Carolina primary takes place a week after the NV caucuses.


Sorry. I got the order reversed.

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Postby Kevotopia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:41 pm

New Giliberafta wrote:
Faustian Fantasies wrote:Guys, it's probably best to just stick to the topic of the thread and not get baited into anybody's immaturity.

Agreed.

Now I have a question

How will Bernie do in Nevada?

Not many polls out there that are trustworthy, aside from ones that are months old. Although, according to Bing they predict that Clinton will take Nevada. The question is: by how much?

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Postby Myrensis » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:42 pm

New Giliberafta wrote:
Faustian Fantasies wrote:Guys, it's probably best to just stick to the topic of the thread and not get baited into anybody's immaturity.

Agreed.

Now I have a question

How will Bernie do in Nevada?


Hillary is heavily favored to win Nevada I believe.

That's not good for Bernie, he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room for lost primaries, but its not terrible either.

South Carolina is his next real test, to see whether he can get traction with minorities, or if he's the lefts Ron Paul, beloved of white college liberals but not much beyond.

If Bernie wins SC, it's Brown Alert time for the Clinton camp.

If he gets a close loss, he's still in good shape moving forward.

If he loses badly, his Campaign will be in life boats.

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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:42 pm

Neu California wrote:
Faustian Fantasies wrote:
At this rate, poorly, in all probability. Unless he finds the golden key in South Carolina in terms of attracting non-white voters. He's already gained momentum in that area. We'll see if he can gain enough.

How is SC relevant to Bernie's chances in Nevada? the South Carolina primary takes place a week after the NV caucuses.

The most recent polling (which is only one poll after January 1) puts Sanders at 43% and Clinton at 47% in Nevada. It'll be interesting to see how tight that race will be.
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Postby Singularity Multiversal Travel Empire » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:47 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Neu California wrote:How is SC relevant to Bernie's chances in Nevada? the South Carolina primary takes place a week after the NV caucuses.

The most recent polling (which is only one poll after January 1) puts Sanders at 43% and Clinton at 47% in Nevada. It'll be interesting to see how tight that race will be.

That it will be; I have to remind myself that this isn't the determiner of who goes forward.
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New Giliberafta wrote:Agreed.

Now I have a question

How will Bernie do in Nevada?


Hillary is heavily favored to win Nevada I believe.

That's not good for Bernie, he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room for lost primaries, but its not terrible either.

South Carolina is his next real test, to see whether he can get traction with minorities, or if he's the lefts Ron Paul, beloved of white college liberals but not much beyond.

If Bernie wins SC, it's Brown Alert time for the Clinton camp.

If he gets a close loss, he's still in good shape moving forward.

If he loses badly, his Campaign will be in life boats.

Agreed. He'll just look like he'll make an entire Democratic demographic go home to await the return of the First Order.
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Postby New Giliberafta » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:50 pm

Myrensis wrote:
New Giliberafta wrote:Agreed.

Now I have a question

How will Bernie do in Nevada?


Hillary is heavily favored to win Nevada I believe.

That's not good for Bernie, he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room for lost primaries, but its not terrible either.

South Carolina is his next real test, to see whether he can get traction with minorities, or if he's the lefts Ron Paul, beloved of white college liberals but not much beyond.

If Bernie wins SC, it's Brown Alert time for the Clinton camp.

If he gets a close loss, he's still in good shape moving forward.

If he loses badly, his Campaign will be in life boats.

I think Nevada is a good lost. Bernie should aim focus on South Carolina and important black activists?

Also, does Jesse Jackson support anyone?
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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:52 pm

New Giliberafta wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Hillary is heavily favored to win Nevada I believe.

That's not good for Bernie, he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room for lost primaries, but its not terrible either.

South Carolina is his next real test, to see whether he can get traction with minorities, or if he's the lefts Ron Paul, beloved of white college liberals but not much beyond.

If Bernie wins SC, it's Brown Alert time for the Clinton camp.

If he gets a close loss, he's still in good shape moving forward.

If he loses badly, his Campaign will be in life boats.

I think Nevada is a good lost. Bernie should aim focus on South Carolina and important black activists?

Also, does Jesse Jackson support anyone?

He supports Obama's third term.
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:54 pm

New Giliberafta wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Hillary is heavily favored to win Nevada I believe.

That's not good for Bernie, he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room for lost primaries, but its not terrible either.

South Carolina is his next real test, to see whether he can get traction with minorities, or if he's the lefts Ron Paul, beloved of white college liberals but not much beyond.

If Bernie wins SC, it's Brown Alert time for the Clinton camp.

If he gets a close loss, he's still in good shape moving forward.

If he loses badly, his Campaign will be in life boats.

I think Nevada is a good lost. Bernie should aim focus on South Carolina and important black activists?

Also, does Jesse Jackson support anyone?

I dunno. If he tries to make inroads into the growing Hispanic electorate then he might be able to overcome Clinton's perceived advantage among black voters. It'd be foolhardy to ignore them is what I'm saying. A good showing among Latinos in Nevada could help him in Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Florida, and California. Hell, Texas is a Super Tuesday state.

He supported Clinton in '08 right?
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Postby Singularity Multiversal Travel Empire » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:54 pm

New Giliberafta wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Hillary is heavily favored to win Nevada I believe.

That's not good for Bernie, he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room for lost primaries, but its not terrible either.

South Carolina is his next real test, to see whether he can get traction with minorities, or if he's the lefts Ron Paul, beloved of white college liberals but not much beyond.

If Bernie wins SC, it's Brown Alert time for the Clinton camp.

If he gets a close loss, he's still in good shape moving forward.

If he loses badly, his Campaign will be in life boats.

I think Nevada is a good lost. Bernie should aim focus on South Carolina and important black activists?

Also, does Jesse Jackson support anyone?

I dunno. Most news on him is about his presence in Flint.
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New Giliberafta wrote:I think Nevada is a good lost. Bernie should aim focus on South Carolina and important black activists?

Also, does Jesse Jackson support anyone?

He supports Obama's third term.

Literally a third term, or just another Democrat in power?
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Postby Myrensis » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:55 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
New Giliberafta wrote:I think Nevada is a good lost. Bernie should aim focus on South Carolina and important black activists?

Also, does Jesse Jackson support anyone?

He supports Obama's third term.


Given the current field on both sides, I'm inclined to agree with Obama that he could win a 3rd term if it were allowed and for some bizarre reason he wanted to suffer another 4 years. :p
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Postby Nariterrr » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:55 pm

Galloism wrote:Another interesting fact from the exit polls.

Bernie wins every income class up until $200,000/yr.

Above $200,000, hillary wins.


Among voter identification, bernie wins slightly among registered democrats (52/48), but very solidly among independents (72/25).

Good. In this race, one vote matters. Bernie is barely pushing by.
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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:56 pm

Singularity Multiversal Travel Empire wrote:
New Giliberafta wrote:I think Nevada is a good lost. Bernie should aim focus on South Carolina and important black activists?

Also, does Jesse Jackson support anyone?

I dunno. Most news on him is about his presence in Flint.
The Republic of American Freedom wrote:He supports Obama's third term.

Literally a third term, or just another Democrat in power?

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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:03 pm

Jackson has decided against endorsing. Interestingly enough, though, Jackson was endorsed by Sanders when he ran for president back in '88.
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:07 pm

Props to Sanders on a job well done.

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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:07 pm

Angry Young Men For Bernie wrote:For fun prediction:

Bernie 61%
Hillary 39%


Not bad.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:10 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Singularity Multiversal Travel Empire wrote:I dunno. Most news on him is about his presence in Flint.

Literally a third term, or just another Democrat in power?

I was joking.

Oh, okay.
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Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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