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Who Do You Support In The Democratic Primaries?

Hillary Clinton
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18%
Bernie Sanders
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Total votes : 316

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Mike the Progressive
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:50 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:I think the great thing about New Hampshire is that it reflects America well. Sure, it's 94% white. Sure only 6% of the state is either black, Asian, or Latino. But yeah.... go Bernie.

Rationalizing HRC's defeat. Understandable.


I mean you gotta take it with a grain of salt.

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Postby Geilinor » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:50 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:I think the great thing about New Hampshire is that it reflects America well. Sure, it's 94% white. Sure only 6% of the state is either black, Asian, or Latino. But yeah.... go Bernie.

Rationalizing HRC's defeat. Understandable.

New Hampshire isn't very representative of the country or the end result. It doesn't matter in the long run is the point.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:50 pm

Eol Sha wrote:My prediction:

Bernie Sanders: 57% to 60%
Hillary Clinton: 40% to 43%


Thats a range. Predictions are precise. I like the range though. ;)
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:51 pm

Galloism wrote:
Neu California wrote:For the curious, NH exit polls:

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/nh/Dem

Interesting Hillary only took 52% of the minority vote (per the exit poll, anyway).


Yeah. 4 out of 7 isn't that bad.

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Postby Galactic Assembly of Free Planets » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:51 pm

Faustian Fantasies wrote:
Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote: :rofl: I'm not sure how much of this isn't serious.


0% of it is intellectually serious.

I'm confused...
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Hillary can lose here without too much damage. If Sanders does badly in SC his campaign will be on life support.


He has some nice momentum now and it's likely he won't lose badly in SC.

Hopefully not. Politico had this piece out: Most Americans unwilling to vote for a socialist according to a Gallup survey released halfway through last year.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:51 pm

Galloism wrote:
Neu California wrote:For the curious, NH exit polls:

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/nh/Dem

Interesting Hillary only took 52% of the minority vote (per the exit poll, anyway).


Won't stop assholes from insisting Sanders is a white men's candidate.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:52 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Galloism wrote:Interesting Hillary only took 52% of the minority vote (per the exit poll, anyway).


Yeah. 4 out of 7 isn't that bad.

Well it's just this touting has been of the "minority firewall" of Clinton. Now, as you have justly pointed out, Bernie was basically destined to win New Hampshire, but with the way people have been talking about the minority vote, I was expecting at least a 70/30 split hillary's favor among the minority vote (if not 80/20).
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:53 pm

Galloism wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Yeah. 4 out of 7 isn't that bad.

Well it's just this touting has been of the "minority firewall" of Clinton. Now, as you have justly pointed out, Bernie was basically destined to win New Hampshire, but with the way people have been talking about the minority vote, I was expecting at least a 70/30 split hillary's favor among the minority vote (if not 80/20).


Considering 94% of the state is white....

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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:53 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Galloism wrote:Interesting Hillary only took 52% of the minority vote (per the exit poll, anyway).


Won't stop assholes from insisting Sanders is a white men's candidate.

Think about it. An old white man from a very white state is saying we should all be like the Scandinavian Countries which are very white. Food for thought.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:54 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Galloism wrote:Well it's just this touting has been of the "minority firewall" of Clinton. Now, as you have justly pointed out, Bernie was basically destined to win New Hampshire, but with the way people have been talking about the minority vote, I was expecting at least a 70/30 split hillary's favor among the minority vote (if not 80/20).


Considering 94% of the state is white....

Minority people vote white peoples' way in majority white states?

Keep in mind, that was 52% of the minority vote, not the total vote. That means white people were excluded.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:54 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Galloism wrote:Interesting Hillary only took 52% of the minority vote (per the exit poll, anyway).


Yeah. 4 out of 7 isn't that bad.

52% < 4/7.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:54 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
Won't stop assholes from insisting Sanders is a white men's candidate.

Think about it. An old white man from a very white state is saying we should all be like the Scandinavian Countries which are very white. Food for thought.

Scandinavia is now less white than New Hampshire and Iowa.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:54 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Yeah. 4 out of 7 isn't that bad.

52% < 4/7.

Well, yeah. It's 13/25.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:55 pm

Geilinor wrote:
New Jerzylvania wrote:Rationalizing HRC's defeat. Understandable.

New Hampshire isn't very representative of the country or the end result. It doesn't matter in the long run is the point.

I get the point. Long run yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's focus on tonight.

Give Bernie his well earned victory and let his people enjoy it. In the end it will be better for party unity. Don't rain on the Sanders parade TONIGHT. Same can be said for when Hillary wins. In the end, we must unite behind the winner. So, let's not diminish the other, especially on a night like this.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:55 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
Won't stop assholes from insisting Sanders is a white men's candidate.

Think about it. An old white man from a very white state is saying we should all be like the Scandinavian Countries which are very white. Food for thought.


Hey man, Bernie won a hard fought state that's truly representative of America: New Hampshire.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:55 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Yeah. 4 out of 7 isn't that bad.

52% < 4/7.


Polls aren't closed yet, tiger.

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Postby Galactic Assembly of Free Planets » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:55 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
New Jerzylvania wrote:Rationalizing HRC's defeat. Understandable.


I mean you gotta take it with a grain of salt.

True. New Hampshire's right next to Vermont, and who knows how many of those crazy New Englanders would vote for a socialist?
Meanwhile, in more ethnically diverse America, the ethnoi of the nation have not yet merged their psyches enough that they cease to have any potential of seeing socialists as basically ransacking their coffers to pay shiftless brownies...or have they? I dunno.
No seriously, is anti-socialism going to be a big problem going forward to SC or not?

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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:56 pm

Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
I mean you gotta take it with a grain of salt.

True. New Hampshire's right next to Vermont, and who knows how many of those crazy New Englanders would vote for a socialist?
Meanwhile, in more ethnically diverse America, the ethnoi of the nation have not yet merged their psyches enough that they cease to have any potential of seeing socialists as basically ransacking their coffers to pay shiftless brownies...or have they? I dunno.
No seriously, is anti-socialism going to be a big problem going forward to SC or not?

Hopefully, because the last thing America needs is Socialism.
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Postby Galactic Assembly of Free Planets » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:56 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
Won't stop assholes from insisting Sanders is a white men's candidate.

Think about it. An old white man from a very white state is saying we should all be like the Scandinavian Countries which are very white. Food for thought.

Time for some more of that good ol' fashioned white man's tradition of GENOCIDE AND THEFT. :twisted:

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Postby The Great Warrior Rivers » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:57 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
The Republic of American Freedom wrote:Think about it. An old white man from a very white state is saying we should all be like the Scandinavian Countries which are very white. Food for thought.


Hey man, Bernie won a hard fought state that's truly representative of America: New Hampshire.

Wow, you like bringing THAT up, dontcha?

Why don't you say it again in case someone else didn't see it??

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:57 pm

Galloism wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Considering 94% of the state is white....

Minority people vote white peoples' way in majority white states?

Keep in mind, that was 52% of the minority vote, not the total vote. That means white people were excluded.


I understand, but from a socioeconomic perspective, I have a sneaking suspicion the everyday life of an African American in Manchester differs [greatly] from that of an African-American in Ferguson.

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Postby Faustian Fantasies » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:57 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:52% < 4/7.


Polls aren't closed yet, tiger.


He's still correct. And the earlier poster established we're speaking in the context of exit polls.

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Postby Galloism » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:57 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Galloism wrote:Minority people vote white peoples' way in majority white states?

Keep in mind, that was 52% of the minority vote, not the total vote. That means white people were excluded.


I understand, but from a socioeconomic perspective, I have a sneaking suspicion the everyday life of an African American in Manchester differs [greatly] from that of an African-American in Ferguson.

Fair point.
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Postby Nariterrr » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:58 pm

Just saw the results...

FEEL THE BERN!
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:58 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:52% < 4/7.

Polls aren't closed yet, tiger.

Then why are you making assertions about the quantifiable weight of support at all, "tiger"?
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