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Who Do You Support In The Democratic Primaries?

Hillary Clinton
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18%
Bernie Sanders
260
82%
 
Total votes : 316

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Mike the Progressive
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:42 pm

Faustian Fantasies wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I think he meant the un-politically-educated college kids of America :P

Obviously college kids are going to be educated.


I've learned that people's actual intent counts for little on this forum.


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Postby Aterrian Union » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:42 pm

Anyone see the New Hampshire primary? Bernie!
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Postby Myrensis » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:42 pm

Angry Young Men For Bernie wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Dude stop talking about Sanders that way. Don't worry when SC primary comes, 50% of the Democratic voters are black, so we'll give Hillary the victory she needs and deserves.


You know what they say about counting unhatched eggs as chickens. However, tonight, meaning NOW, HRC loses to Bernie BIG!


Hillary can lose here without too much damage. If Sanders does badly in SC his campaign will be on life support.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:43 pm

Aterrian Union wrote:Anyone see the New Hampshire primary? Bernie!

Wait, what? That's today?
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Apparently, some people think this:
Novsvacro wrote:The above nation is a pseudo-fascist dictatorship with an emphasis on collective identity and the supreme authority of the collective will, manifest in the State.
However, we tolerate most ideologies, and you are free to do what you like!

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:43 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Aterrian Union wrote:Anyone see the New Hampshire primary? Bernie!

Wait, what? That's today?


Yup. Was called for Sanders and Trump the moment the polls closed.
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Postby Faustian Fantasies » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:44 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Faustian Fantasies wrote:
I've learned that people's actual intent counts for little on this forum.


Most forums, the internet in general, real life, etc.


Qualification: On some forums, and in some real life places, where people are intellectually honest, then intent matters. Once you step outside of this circle, you get all kinds of snarklords who think they're the next Voltaire for making a cheap joke.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:44 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Wait, what? That's today?


Yup. Was called for Sanders and Trump the moment the polls closed.

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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:45 pm

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The huge turnout portends it going the other direction and a widening of his lead... but I don't see him winning by any less than ten. They called this thing so soon it must be a slam dunk.


Early calls are not too unusual. I recall in 2008, Indiana being called for Hillary almost immediately (it was actually a razor thin win for her). I've also seen some calls made in 2000 as well... though I'm not disputing Sanders won. Just that I suspect the margin will shrink.


I know. I suspect it won't for my own reasons. Like he's also winning the womens vote by 7% in exit polls. That's suppose to be core HRC voters.

I've seen many elections, Many many many. However, we will see as with the rest and the aftermath as usual will be highly interesting.
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:45 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Wait, what? That's today?


Yup. Was called for Sanders and Trump the moment the polls closed.

Unlike Iowa, it's not a hard call to make.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:45 pm

I think the great thing about New Hampshire is that it reflects America well. Sure, it's 94% white. Sure only 6% of the state is either black, Asian, or Latino. But yeah.... go Bernie.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:45 pm

Aterrian Union wrote:Anyone see the New Hampshire primary? Bernie!

Do you really think a thread about Democratic primaries doesn't know?

But yeah, he's slowly going up at the moment (Though it is only 20% in)
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Postby Galactic Assembly of Free Planets » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:45 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Aterrian Union wrote:Anyone see the New Hampshire primary? Bernie!

Wait, what? That's today?

It's too early to tell, but I hope the general pattern sticks! Bernie is winning!
Neu California wrote:Interesting. According to WaPo, Bernie won with voters who care more about honesty and caring, and Hillary won with voters who are more focused on electability.

I definitely feel like a pro-Bernie voter. But the problem is I know he'll probably get his ass torn to shreds for daring to call himself a [expletive deleted]socialist, and Bloomberg will rip the Party in half if both he and Trump win the nomination.

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:46 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Wait, what? That's today?


Yup. Was called for Sanders and Trump the moment the polls closed.

Polls don't "close". :P
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Postby Galactic Assembly of Free Planets » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:46 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:I think the great thing about New Hampshire is that it reflects America well. Sure, it's 94% white. Sure only 6% of the state is either black, Asian, or Latino. But yeah.... go Bernie.

:rofl: I'm not sure how much of this isn't serious.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:47 pm

Faustian Fantasies wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Most forums, the internet in general, real life, etc.


Qualification: On some forums, and in some real life places, where people are intellectually honest, then intent matters. Once you step outside of this circle, you get all kinds of snarklords who think they're the next Voltaire for making a cheap joke.


God, either ignorance is bliss or the world must be a truly unpleasant place for you.

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Postby Faustian Fantasies » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:47 pm

Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:I think the great thing about New Hampshire is that it reflects America well. Sure, it's 94% white. Sure only 6% of the state is either black, Asian, or Latino. But yeah.... go Bernie.

:rofl: I'm not sure how much of this isn't serious.


0% of it is intellectually serious.

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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:47 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Angry Young Men For Bernie wrote:
You know what they say about counting unhatched eggs as chickens. However, tonight, meaning NOW, HRC loses to Bernie BIG!


Hillary can lose here without too much damage. If Sanders does badly in SC his campaign will be on life support.


He has some nice momentum now and it's likely he won't lose badly in SC.
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Postby Neu California » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:48 pm

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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:48 pm

My prediction:

Bernie Sanders: 57% to 60%
Hillary Clinton: 40% to 43%
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:48 pm

Faustian Fantasies wrote:
Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote: :rofl: I'm not sure how much of this isn't serious.


0% of it is intellectually serious.


Dude, here's an icepack for that bern.

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Postby Faustian Fantasies » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:48 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Faustian Fantasies wrote:
Qualification: On some forums, and in some real life places, where people are intellectually honest, then intent matters. Once you step outside of this circle, you get all kinds of snarklords who think they're the next Voltaire for making a cheap joke.


God, either ignorance is bliss or the world must be a truly unpleasant place for you.


Ignoring this post. Your intent is clear.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:49 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:I think the great thing about New Hampshire is that it reflects America well. Sure, it's 94% white. Sure only 6% of the state is either black, Asian, or Latino. But yeah.... go Bernie.

Rationalizing HRC's defeat. Understandable.
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Postby Faustian Fantasies » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:49 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Hillary can lose here without too much damage. If Sanders does badly in SC his campaign will be on life support.


He has some nice momentum now and it's likely he won't lose badly in SC.


Indeed. He has some momentum in SC polls, too. It remains to be seen if his strategies post-NH will work there.

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Postby Galloism » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:49 pm

Neu California wrote:For the curious, NH exit polls:

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/nh/Dem

Interesting Hillary only took 52% of the minority vote (per the exit poll, anyway).
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