[US Election 2016] Democratic Primary Megathread

[Samjalmark]

BERNIE SANDERS ATTRACTS 10,000 ATTENDEES AT MADISON WISCONSIN EVENT, MORE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE THUS FAR!!!!

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el ... in-n385641

[Marylandonia]

BERNIE SANDERS ATTRACTS 10,000 ATTENDEES AT MADISON WISCONSIN EVENT, MORE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE THUS FAR!!!!

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el ... in-n385641

Home of U of W. Maybe that matters. And college is out, lots of free time to attend such things. I love Bernie and have called his office in DC and spoken to his staffers on many occasions. They actually listen and care.

I am not from VT yet they know that and still listen and care. They actually ask me follow up questions relating to whatever the issue I have called about. And they are always genuinely polite. I have called many other US

Senators over the years and his staff is the best. Some of the others are good, but his staff is in a league of their own. That is an indication as to his bona fides, so I surely would love to see him elected. But the reality of

the system tells me he won't be, and I have been around long enough to make that observation with clear vision. But OTOH, we can always hope for another miracle. But don't set yourself up to be extremely

disappointed, and don't damage the probable eventual nominee. Even with her faults, she is a far better choice than anyone the Republicans have to offer. That being said, Bernie is still my dream candidate, but

dreams can be elusive.

[Samjalmark]

BERNIE SANDERS ATTRACTS 10,000 ATTENDEES AT MADISON WISCONSIN EVENT, MORE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE THUS FAR!!!!

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el ... in-n385641

Home of U of W. Maybe that matters. And college is out, lots of free time to attend such things. I love Bernie and have called his office in DC and spoken to his staffers on many occasions. They actually listen and care. I am not from VT yet they know that and still listen and care. They actually ask me follow up questions relating to whatever the issue I have called about. And they are always genuinely polite. I have called many other US Senators over the years and his staff is the best. Some of the others are good, but his staff is in a league of their own. That is an indication as to his bona fides, so I surely would love to see him elected. But the reality of the system tells me he won't be, and I have been around long enough to make that observation with clear vision. But OTOH, we can always hope for another miracle. But don't set yourself up to be extremely disappointed, and don't damage the probable eventual nominee. Even with her faults, she is a far better choice than anyone the Republicans have to offer. That being said, Bernie is still my dream candidate, but dreams can be elusive.

In my opinion, if you do in fact support a supposed "long-shot" candidate, one shouldn't dwell on their "unelectability." Sure the odds are against Bernie, but I'm okay with that, and I'll support him regardless if he is "electable" in the current system. Instead of saying he'll never win, we can get his message out there, tell more people about him and his positions on the issues. That's what this campaign is about, the issues, not speculation.

As for Hillary, I strongly dislike her, but do see her as the lesser of the two evils (and in the event that Bernie doesn't get the nomination, I'll begrudgingly support her). However, at this point in the election, I retain the right to say what I will about her, even if she's marginally better than any of the republicans. She's just too right-wing, too careerist, and her convictions are shaky at best. Again, I'll vote for her if she gets the nomination, but until the primaries come around, Bernie has just as good of a shot as Hillary in my eyes.

[Nordenkalt]

I'm very anti Clinton and Biden but if I had to choose it might be Sanders. I'm not a democrat but if he ran against Paul then I'd call it a win-win

[Arlenton]

BERNIE SANDERS ATTRACTS 10,000 ATTENDEES AT MADISON WISCONSIN EVENT, MORE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE THUS FAR!!!!

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el ... in-n385641

Howard Dean had 10,000 at a rally in 2003. Then again that was Seattle. Hopefully Sanders can take out Hillary before she gets to us.

[Marylandonia]

Home of U of W. Maybe that matters. And college is out, lots of free time to attend such things. I love Bernie and have called his office in DC and spoken to his staffers on many occasions. They actually listen and care. I am not from VT yet they know that and still listen and care. They actually ask me follow up questions relating to whatever the issue I have called about. And they are always genuinely polite. I have called many other US Senators over the years and his staff is the best. Some of the others are good, but his staff is in a league of their own. That is an indication as to his bona fides, so I surely would love to see him elected. But the reality of the system tells me he won't be, and I have been around long enough to make that observation with clear vision. But OTOH, we can always hope for another miracle. But don't set yourself up to be extremely disappointed, and don't damage the probable eventual nominee. Even with her faults, she is a far better choice than anyone the Republicans have to offer. That being said, Bernie is still my dream candidate, but dreams can be elusive.

In my opinion, if you do in fact support a supposed "long-shot" candidate, one shouldn't dwell on their "unelectability." Sure the odds are against Bernie, but I'm okay with that, and I'll support him regardless if he is "electable" in the current system. Instead of saying he'll never win, we can get his message out there, tell more people about him and his positions on the issues. That's what this campaign is about, the issues, not speculation.

As for Hillary, I strongly dislike her, but do see her as the lesser of the two evils (and in the event that Bernie doesn't get the nomination, I'll begrudgingly support her). However, at this point in the election, I retain the right to say what I will about her, even if she's marginally better than any of the republicans. She's just too right-wing, too careerist, and her convictions are shaky at best. Again, I'll vote for her if she gets the nomination, but until the primaries come around, Bernie has just as good of a shot as Hillary in my eyes.

Good, in your eyes. And you heard my opinion, I love the guy. But reality is what reality is, as far as the primary goes, the deck is stacked against him on many different levels. My state goes on super Tuesday and I (as of now, today) plan on pulling the lever for him. You can say whatever you want about HRC too. But don't get desperate and throw her under any bus you see conveniently passing by like our Republican friends habitually do. That is what I speak of guarding against and that is all. Keep it real. Also no one should throw Bernie under either on HRC's side. If he can't make it to the nomination, I'd like to see him as veep if the general looks easy enough and the campaign doesn't feel it needs to take a chance on a 40 year old Hispanic former mayor of SA, Julian Castro. We can't damage any of our potential candidates like the party had been known to do in days of yore.

[Marylandonia]

BERNIE SANDERS ATTRACTS 10,000 ATTENDEES AT MADISON WISCONSIN EVENT, MORE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE THUS FAR!!!!

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el ... in-n385641

Howard Dean had 10,000 at a rally in 2003. Then again that was Seattle. Hopefully Sanders can take out Hillary before she gets to us.

Can you Imagine if Democrats used some lame defeatist strategy and crossed over in primaries to vote for Trump and he got the nomination, or finished a strong second and had to be put on the ticket? Then the Dems

could nominate any one of their candidates and win 40+ states. As for Dean, how did he do in 2004 in the final count? So why bring him up? BTW, I love him too and the city of Seattle.

Your three little sentences speak volumes on how y'all are plain scared shitless of Hillary and spotlights your total desperation to not have to see her beat your candidate's brains out in 2016.

[Arlenton]

Howard Dean had 10,000 at a rally in 2003. Then again that was Seattle. Hopefully Sanders can take out Hillary before she gets to us.

Can you Imagine if Democrats used some lame defeatist strategy and crossed over in primaries to vote for Trump and he got the nomination, or finished a strong second and had to be put on the ticket? Then the Dems

could nominate any one of their candidates and win 40+ states. As for Dean, how did he do in 2004 in the final count? So why bring him up? BTW, I love him too and the city of Seattle.

Your three little sentences speak volumes on how y'all are plain scared shitless of Hillary and spotlights your total desperation to not have to see her beat your candidate's brains out in 2016.

Of course I want Sanders to get the nomination somehow, Hillary is polling better than any past candidate has at this stage, the only one who matches is Gore. Though we beat him.. barely.

And in the 2004 Democratic Primary Dean won just Vermont. Which I think is Sander's likely ceiling, unfortunately.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I love how the majority of NS (Who are democrats) are young so they support Sanders. I like Sanders in many ways but the avg democrat + moderate democrats will probably side with Hiliary cause Sanders will get the Democrats annihilated if he wins the primary (if the Republicans get a moderate as their candidate).

1. There's a difference between being a leftist or a liberal and being a Democrat.

2. Plenty of people in their thirties and above support Sanders as well.

3. There are no moderate Republican candidates.

[UED]

I love how the majority of NS (Who are democrats) are young so they support Sanders. I like Sanders in many ways but the avg democrat + moderate democrats will probably side with Hiliary cause Sanders will get the Democrats annihilated if he wins the primary (if the Republicans get a moderate as their candidate).

1. There's a difference between being a leftist or a liberal and being a Democrat.

2. Plenty of people in their thirties and above support Sanders as well.

3. There are no moderate Republican candidates.

1. In this country most of the people can't tell the difference or don't care. The common person will immediately associate leftist/liberal with the democrats cause that's all this country has to a major political party that leans to the left that consistently wins seats in congress.

2. Dude there are people in my community (I live in California) who never even heard of Sanders and rank and file democrats in my school/neighbors are strongly pro-Hiliary, Sanders is mainly gaining the 18-20s range.

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Pataki
Hmmm, an environmentalist, a person who is pro-choice for abortion and a supporter of gay rights...
Does that not seem moderate enough for you?
From a Republican point of view he probably seems too left wing, but I'm assuming you must lean to the left so he's the closest the left wing can see as a "moderate".

[United facist States of America]

I'm a Swede so I don't know American politics that well but it seems that Bernie Sanders is the best candidate and if he becomes president further left-wing people will step forward. I always thought that it was weird that there never seem to be any real socialists or communists as candidates but I guess that's just a relic of the cold war era.

[Lykens]

1. There's a difference between being a leftist or a liberal and being a Democrat.

2. Plenty of people in their thirties and above support Sanders as well.

3. There are no moderate Republican candidates.

1. In this country most of the people can't tell the difference or don't care. The common person will immediately associate leftist/liberal with the democrats cause that's all this country has to a major political party that leans to the left that consistently wins seats in congress.

2. Dude there are people in my community (I live in California) who never even heard of Sanders and rank and file democrats in my school/neighbors are strongly pro-Hiliary, Sanders is mainly gaining the 18-20s range.

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Pataki
Hmmm, an environmentalist, a person who is pro-choice for abortion and a supporter of gay rights...
Does that not seem moderate enough for you?
From a Republican point of view he probably seems too left wing, but I'm assuming you must lean to the left so he's the closest the left wing can see as a "moderate".

1. Lincoln Chaffee, Mary Landrieu, Blanche Lincoln, Zedd Miller, need I go on?

2. One place out of the entire state of California out of the entire United States.

3.George Pataki has very little chance of winning. Outside of New York state he is probably known by very few who don't care enough about politics to look into it themselves, whereas people who don't care about politics enough to learn on their own probably hear about Bernie through other people.

[Marylandonia]

Of course, I love the guy, but the reality of the situation is....

Bernie's next biggest problem after Hillary is that he will be past his 75th birthday on election day 2016. Unprecedented to elect a person this old to the POTUS. Reagan was the oldest at 69. He was fine, as far as aging, in his first term. But he definitely went down hill after election to a second term, when he was 73. Bernie's age will turn some people off if it is made an issue. And if he gets within striking distance, it will.

[The United Territories of Providence]

So.... Hillary Clinton's staffers used a rope to corral journalists....that's a thing. It's getting easier to understand why the independent press hates her.



Won't see Sanders doing shit like that

[New Werpland]

So.... Hillary Clinton's staffers used a rope to corral journalists....that's a thing. It's getting easier to understand why the independent press hates her.

(Image)

Won't see Sanders doing shit like that

Sanders will let the journalists sit with him in his campaign bus as he serves them refreshments.

[Blekksprutia]

Our favourite Vermont Jew \o/

[Marylandonia]

So.... Hillary Clinton's staffers used a rope to corral journalists....that's a thing. It's getting easier to understand why the independent press hates her.

(Image)

Won't see Sanders doing shit like that

Sanders will let the journalists sit with him in his campaign bus as he serves them refreshments.

He is the nicest person in the race. Don't forget the famous Leo Durocher quote though.

[Bearon]

Hey guys based on my beliefs can you tell me who I should vote for? Also I know this is a Democrat thread but you can suggest Republican candidates too if you like. Actually is there a candidates thread for both democratic and republicans or are they separated to keep the threads from simply being spammed with arguments?

[Geilinor]

Hey guys based on my beliefs can you tell me who I should vote for? Also I know this is a Democrat thread but you can suggest Republican candidates too if you like. Actually is there a candidates thread for both democratic and republicans or are they separated to keep the threads from simply being spammed with arguments?

I don't know what your beliefs are, so I can't.

[Bearon]

Hey guys based on my beliefs can you tell me who I should vote for? Also I know this is a Democrat thread but you can suggest Republican candidates too if you like. Actually is there a candidates thread for both democratic and republicans or are they separated to keep the threads from simply being spammed with arguments?

I don't know what your beliefs are, so I can't.

I know that I meant could you question me on them so we can determine the candidate best suited for me?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I don't know what your beliefs are, so I can't.

I know that I meant could you question me on them so we can determine the candidate best suited for me?

You want America to be better?

Vote Sanders.

[Roosevelt and Truman]

I don't know what your beliefs are, so I can't.

I know that I meant could you question me on them so we can determine the candidate best suited for me?

Want a candidate to pragmatically raise wages, maintain health reform, advocate for a strong foreign policy, defend Wall Street regulations, and protect labor rights?

Vote Clinton.

[New Jerzylvania]

Want to prevent another Republican disaster presidency and continue to move forward for the good of all our people?

Vote for whomever the Democrats nominate.

[Bearon]

Well this was helpful. I'm going to the Republican thread now.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Want to prevent another Republican disaster presidency and continue to move forward for the good of all our people?

Vote for whomever the Democrats nominate.

^Valid