Caitlyn Jenner: The Reveal & The Reactions

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Why not? They were fed and sheltered, right?

If you can't afford food and shelter otherwise, I'd rather become a slave than kill myself.

And we musn't forget that a large number of slaves were Christian.

Slaves = Slaves

Christian Slaves = Slaves

[Replevion]

Source this bullshit.

I'm waiting for someone to do it for me. Now, the definition, please? Pick annny dictionary you want, as long as it's a popular and respectable one.

I did. They are NOT disorders according to the DSM-V, which is the highest authority that decides what mental disorders are in the US. It's over. No dictionary games necessary.

[Steamtopia]

Too bad, you're now property for life, prepare to be beaten.

You weren't allowed to just randomly beat them at whim, you could only do it as punishment. 19th century slavery is different from Biblical slavery.

Where does it say it must be for punishment?

[Calimera II]

Not so idiotic if you signed up as a slave to erase some huge-ass debt and you were dirt poor.

Too bad, you're now property for life, prepare to be beaten.

The vast majority of slaves weren't beaten, were well-fed and had a good relationship with their master. There was an interesting documentary on Discovery Channel a couple of years ago which pointed out that slaves lived relatively well.

[Grenartia]

There are times and ways to joke, and there are times and ways not to joke. Any comedian knows this. Drake Bell is a comedic actor. He certainly knows the difference. I see no reason to attribute this to ignorance, as all signs point to maliciousness.

Only in the eyes of people who want to find this offensive.

I don't want to find anything offensive, actually. Its not easy to offend me, and, for the record, even as a trans person, I am not offended. However, that does not mean it isn't transphobic.

[Boineburg]

People also debate whether vaccines cause Autism, but whatever.
Technically, by definition, transsexuals and homosexuals do have a mental disorder. Now, if you would please, find me the definition of "mental disorder".

I should also note that I am not against the idea of transsexuals and homosexuals, but I'm working off of technicalities.

Actually, no, by definition homosexuals do not have a mental disorder any more than people who are left-handed have a physical disorder. Transgendered individuals are a slightly different story, but part of the treatment is to transition to a gender identity that the patient is more comfortable with, at which point there's no real disorder.

Now, if you would please, find me the definition of "mental disorder"

[Grand Calvert]

If you understood the historical context instead of cherry picking random quotes, you'd have known that.

There's no historical context in which slavery is moral. Do you support slavery as described in the Bible or not?

Biblical slavery is fine. 19th century American slavery was wrong, and very different.

[Steamtopia]

Too bad, you're now property for life, prepare to be beaten.

The vast majority of slaves weren't beaten, were well-fed and had a good relationship with their master. There was an interesting documentary on Discovery Channel a couple of years ago which pointed out that slaves lived relatively well.

Do you have an actual source rather than a vague memory of a documentary?

[Geilinor]

Too bad, you're now property for life, prepare to be beaten.

The vast majority of slaves weren't beaten, were well-fed and had a good relationship with their master. There was an interesting documentary on Discovery Channel a couple of years ago which pointed out that slaves lived relatively well.

Now you're just justifying historical slavery.

[Eastfield Lodge]

Source this bullshit.

I'm waiting for someone to do it for me. Now, the definition, please? Pick annny dictionary you want, as long as it's a popular and respectable one.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/mental%20disorder

[Replevion]

Too bad, you're now property for life, prepare to be beaten.

You weren't allowed to just randomly beat them at whim, you could only do it as punishment. 19th century slavery is different from Biblical slavery.

O RLY? What verse says you couldn't hit your slaves for kicks?

[Grand Calvert]

You weren't allowed to just randomly beat them at whim, you could only do it as punishment. 19th century slavery is different from Biblical slavery.

Where does it say it must be for punishment?

Practically everywhere.

[Calimera II]

And we musn't forget that a large number of slaves were Christian.

Slaves = Slaves

Christian Slaves = Slaves

That's not my point at all.

[Grenartia]

This person was born with male DNA. This person is a male and will always be a male. Mr. Jenner should receive therapy so that he can accept the fact that he is a male. He is a mentally ill person with severe delusions. No amount of politically correct philosophical blathering will change this fact.

She, and sex isn't gender, and being trans isn't a mental illness, nor a delusion, and political correctness doesn't exist.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Where does it say it must be for punishment?

Practically everywhere.

The very fucking least you can do is quote the bible

[Steamtopia]

Where does it say it must be for punishment?

Practically everywhere.

Do you have a quote or not?

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Slaves = Slaves

Christian Slaves = Slaves

That's not my point at all.

Then sorry. That's what it implied.

[Calimera II]

The vast majority of slaves weren't beaten, were well-fed and had a good relationship with their master. There was an interesting documentary on Discovery Channel a couple of years ago which pointed out that slaves lived relatively well.

Now you're just justifying historical slavery.

In that time slavery was something normal. I am not justifying anything, I am stating facts which you don't seem to like.

[Counter Culture]

If you understood the historical context instead of cherry picking random quotes, you'd have known that.

There's no historical context in which slavery is moral. Do you support slavery as described in the Bible or not?

There is no historical context in which slavery is moral in 21st century lenses. It was widely accepted in the 1700s, much less like 600 BC

[Grand Calvert]

"Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven."

-Colossians 4:1

[Boineburg]

I'm waiting for someone to do it for me. Now, the definition, please? Pick annny dictionary you want, as long as it's a popular and respectable one.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/mental%20disorder

Ah, thank you! Exactly the one I used, too.

I made this for an Imgur comment awhile ago: http://i.imgur.com/qpMwOPZ.png

[Grenartia]

So in which commandment or other verse does god condemn trans people?

On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren. Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.…

http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/no_fems_no_fairies.html

[Steamtopia]

There's no historical context in which slavery is moral. Do you support slavery as described in the Bible or not?

There is no historical context in which slavery is moral in 21st century lenses. It was widely accepted in the 1700s, much less like 600 BC

I don't care if it was widely accepted. Something being widely accepted does not make it moral.

[Replevion]

Practically everywhere.

The very fucking least you can do is quote the bible

This is really starting to get hilarious. I'm glad I stayed. (Sort of. In a sad, depressed way.)

[Steamtopia]

"Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven."

-Colossians 4:1

So you don't have an actual quote that specifically states that they can't beat slaves for whatever they deem is justified?