Prostitution=Porn

[Barzan]

Is prostitution illegal? In Britain prostitution is legal but poncing (i.e. Making money from the proceeds of prostitution isn't. Does it work differently in the US?

I think Pimping is the term for american Poncing but its completely illegal. Except in Nevada alot of things deemed morally wrong are okay in Nevada, it's God's blindspot.

Yet it's illegal in the place where it would be the most lucrative and most sought after: Las Vegas.

[Lackadaisical2]

What it really boils down to is the absence of a multi-billion dollar lobby in favour of prostitution. Otherwise I'm sure there'd be legal loopholes for it as well.

Well, its legal in parts of Nevada, so I wonder if that will encourage legalization in other states, or, perhaps more likely, those businesses will try to stop that from happening, in order to continue attracting customers from around the country.

[The Olympos Mountains]

What it really boils down to is the absence of a multi-billion dollar lobby in favour of prostitution. Otherwise I'm sure there'd be legal loopholes for it as well.

Well, its legal in parts of Nevada, so I wonder if that will encourage legalization in other states, or, perhaps more likely, those businesses will try to stop that from happening, in order to continue attracting customers from around the country.

if they tried to legalize it u'd have all the religious fanatics all over you, and potentially strip clubs wouldnt support it, that or they'd turn to sex clubs

[Barzan]

What it really boils down to is the absence of a multi-billion dollar lobby in favour of prostitution. Otherwise I'm sure there'd be legal loopholes for it as well.

Well, its legal in parts of Nevada, so I wonder if that will encourage legalization in other states, or, perhaps more likely, those businesses will try to stop that from happening, in order to continue attracting customers from around the country.

if they tried to legalize it u'd have all the religious fanatics all over you, and potentially strip clubs wouldnt support it, that or they'd turn to sex clubs

That's not true at all. We have prostitution here, yet strip clubs are still popular. People who go to a strip club may not fancy the idea of sex with a stranger for money.

[Des-Bal]

What it really boils down to is the absence of a multi-billion dollar lobby in favour of prostitution. Otherwise I'm sure there'd be legal loopholes for it as well.

Well, its legal in parts of Nevada, so I wonder if that will encourage legalization in other states, or, perhaps more likely, those businesses will try to stop that from happening, in order to continue attracting customers from around the country.

if they tried to legalize it u'd have all the religious fanatics all over you, and potentially strip clubs wouldnt support it, that or they'd turn to sex clubs

That's not true at all. We have prostitution here, yet strip clubs are still popular. People who go to a strip club may not fancy the idea of sex with a stranger for money.

When your wife finds out you went to a strip club you sleep in the dog house, when the wife finds out you went to a sex club you sleep in your car.

[Barzan]

What it really boils down to is the absence of a multi-billion dollar lobby in favour of prostitution. Otherwise I'm sure there'd be legal loopholes for it as well.

Well, its legal in parts of Nevada, so I wonder if that will encourage legalization in other states, or, perhaps more likely, those businesses will try to stop that from happening, in order to continue attracting customers from around the country.

if they tried to legalize it u'd have all the religious fanatics all over you, and potentially strip clubs wouldnt support it, that or they'd turn to sex clubs

That's not true at all. We have prostitution here, yet strip clubs are still popular. People who go to a strip club may not fancy the idea of sex with a stranger for money.

When your wife finds out you went to a strip club you sleep in the dog house, when the wife finds out you went to a sex club you sleep in your car.

True that. But who said that prostitution would mean "sex clubs"? (Those already exist, actually -- they're called "swinger clubs".) I'm pretty sure it would mean that the higher-end call girls who currently exist would continue to exist. Pimps would also probably go by the wayside for the street level ones. Sure there'd be brothels, but no one said that legalising prostitution means allowing those to open up in a residential area -- that's what zoning is for.

[Zeppy]

Is prostitution illegal? In Britain prostitution is legal but poncing (i.e. Making money from the proceeds of prostitution isn't. Does it work differently in the US?

I think Pimping is the term for american Poncing but its completely illegal. Except in Nevada alot of things deemed morally wrong are okay in Nevada, it's God's blindspot.

Yet it's illegal in the place where it would be the most lucrative and most sought after: Las Vegas.

New Zealand also. Sheep to women ratio is crazy.

[Barzan]

Is prostitution illegal? In Britain prostitution is legal but poncing (i.e. Making money from the proceeds of prostitution isn't. Does it work differently in the US?

I think Pimping is the term for american Poncing but its completely illegal. Except in Nevada alot of things deemed morally wrong are okay in Nevada, it's God's blindspot.

Yet it's illegal in the place where it would be the most lucrative and most sought after: Las Vegas.

New Zealand also. Sheep to women ratio is crazy.

I feel sorry for those poor poor sheep.

[New Manvir]

both should be illeigal, in my country, it can land you in the work camps for 50 years, or get you fed to the lions, its really quite entertaining to watch (perverts get eaten by lions, i mean)

You're country must suck. (pun intended)

[SaintB]

As I said in the last thread.

Pornography being legal creates jobs for people who pay taxes.
Prostitution being legal only creates jobs for prostitutes, however as long as its illegal it provides jobs for many people in law enforcement and medical professions.

One of the foundations of politics is jobs, another is taxes.

[Barzan]

As I said in the last thread.

Pornography being legal creates jobs for people who pay taxes.
Prostitution being legal only creates jobs for prostitutes, however as long as its illegal it provides jobs for many people in law enforcement and medical professions.

One of the foundations of politics is jobs, another is taxes.

But if they regulated and taxed prostitution, then they would actually make more money. They could have police check licences and fine/arrest unlicensed brothels/service providers. You would also need health inspectors and physicians to give weekly STD-screening tests. All this would cost less, as jails and courts would be freer.

[SaintB]

As I said in the last thread.

Pornography being legal creates jobs for people who pay taxes.
Prostitution being legal only creates jobs for prostitutes, however as long as its illegal it provides jobs for many people in law enforcement and medical professions.

One of the foundations of politics is jobs, another is taxes.

But if they regulated and taxed prostitution, then they would actually make more money. They could have police check licences and fine/arrest unlicensed brothels/service providers. You would also need health inspectors and physicians to give weekly STD-screening tests. All this would cost less, as jails and courts would be freer.

Please go explain logic and common sense to your state and federal legislature, record it, because I bet the reaction will be priceless.

[Barzan]

As I said in the last thread.

Pornography being legal creates jobs for people who pay taxes.
Prostitution being legal only creates jobs for prostitutes, however as long as its illegal it provides jobs for many people in law enforcement and medical professions.

One of the foundations of politics is jobs, another is taxes.

But if they regulated and taxed prostitution, then they would actually make more money. They could have police check licences and fine/arrest unlicensed brothels/service providers. You would also need health inspectors and physicians to give weekly STD-screening tests. All this would cost less, as jails and courts would be freer.

Please go explain logic and common sense to your state and federal legislature, record it, because I bet the reaction will be priceless.

Ah, therein lies the problem. You want to introduce your high-falutin "logic" and your fancy-pants "common sense" into electoral politics.

[SaintB]

As I said in the last thread.

Pornography being legal creates jobs for people who pay taxes.
Prostitution being legal only creates jobs for prostitutes, however as long as its illegal it provides jobs for many people in law enforcement and medical professions.

One of the foundations of politics is jobs, another is taxes.

But if they regulated and taxed prostitution, then they would actually make more money. They could have police check licences and fine/arrest unlicensed brothels/service providers. You would also need health inspectors and physicians to give weekly STD-screening tests. All this would cost less, as jails and courts would be freer.

Please go explain logic and common sense to your state and federal legislature, record it, because I bet the reaction will be priceless.

Ah, therein lies the problem. You want to introduce your high-falutin "logic" and your fancy-pants "common sense" into electoral politics.

Don't forget Intellectual Elitist.

[Barzan]

As I said in the last thread.

Pornography being legal creates jobs for people who pay taxes.
Prostitution being legal only creates jobs for prostitutes, however as long as its illegal it provides jobs for many people in law enforcement and medical professions.

One of the foundations of politics is jobs, another is taxes.

But if they regulated and taxed prostitution, then they would actually make more money. They could have police check licences and fine/arrest unlicensed brothels/service providers. You would also need health inspectors and physicians to give weekly STD-screening tests. All this would cost less, as jails and courts would be freer.

Please go explain logic and common sense to your state and federal legislature, record it, because I bet the reaction will be priceless.

Ah, therein lies the problem. You want to introduce your high-falutin "logic" and your fancy-pants "common sense" into electoral politics.

Don't forget Intellectual Elitist.

Indeed. Should I throw in a hyperbolic non-sequitur insult like "commie", "Muslim", or "socialist" just for good measure?

[Dempublicents1]

if they tried to legalize it u'd have all the religious fanatics all over you, and potentially strip clubs wouldnt support it, that or they'd turn to sex clubs

A lot of them are already fronts for prostitution anyways. This would just mean they wouldn't have to hide it.

When your wife finds out you went to a strip club you sleep in the dog house, when the wife finds out you went to a sex club you sleep in your car.

My husband would only be in the doghouse for going to a strip club if it wasn't a bachelor party and he still didn't invite me.

Please go explain logic and common sense to your state and federal legislature, record it, because I bet the reaction will be priceless.

Ah, therein lies the problem. You want to introduce your high-falutin "logic" and your fancy-pants "common sense" into electoral politics.

Don't forget Intellectual Elitist.

Indeed. Should I throw in a hyperbolic non-sequitur insult like "commie", "Muslim", or "socialist" just for good measure?

Maybe you just need to explain to them that prostitution is a good capitalist venture and that it's socialist to prevent it. *nodnod*

[Mean Feat]

As I said in the last thread.

Pornography being legal creates jobs for people who pay taxes.
Prostitution being legal only creates jobs for prostitutes, however as long as its illegal it provides jobs for many people in law enforcement and medical professions.

The way this went with Barzan suggests you're not serious about this.

If that is a serious opinion, I would like to argue with it please.

[Joskar]

In the US (and probably other places as well) they did try to use this reasoning to ban pornography, but ultimately the porn lobby won. If I remember correctly, the defence went along the lines of porn as an art form being protected by freedom of speech, and that if you charge porn stars with prostitution, then taking that logic further would really get you into some murky waters. How do you define sex? How about kissing and simulated sex? Then you would have to prosecute a lot of mainstream actors too. Similarly, why do you call porn prostitution but you don't call a boxing match an assault?

This is as best as I can remember from a documentary about Ron Jeremy I saw recently. So equaling porn to prostitution isn't anything new under the sun, but so far the courts have agreed that sex as a performance enjoys certain privileges. Then again, I don't really see why prostitution should be illegal either, but that's another debate.

[Maurepas]

Because the United States has a long tradition of letting Puritan bastards make the laws...

I see no reason why the world's oldest profession need be illegal...

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

Because the United States has a long tradition of letting Puritan bastards make the laws...

I see no reason why the world's oldest profession need be illegal...

I thought that was bashing the heads of people who disagreed with you.

[Maurepas]

Because the United States has a long tradition of letting Puritan bastards make the laws...

I see no reason why the world's oldest profession need be illegal...

I thought that was bashing the heads of people who disagreed with you.

The two are not mutually exclusive,

[Mean Feat]

Because the United States has a long tradition of letting Puritan bastards make the laws...

I see no reason why the world's oldest profession need be illegal...

Nor do I.

Q: Why is porn legal but prostitution not ?
A: The law is right about porn, but wrong about prostitution.

[Meoton]

So why in the United States is pornography legal, but prostitution illegal? Prostitution is defined as "the act of engaging in sexual activity in exchange for money or goods." Don't Porn stars do this? They have sex with another person(s) in exchange for money. Home videos are different.

Hypocrisy is the right of every citizen in these good and Blessed United States of America.

[Dempublicents1]

In the US (and probably other places as well) they did try to use this reasoning to ban pornography, but ultimately the porn lobby won. If I remember correctly, the defence went along the lines of porn as an art form being protected by freedom of speech, and that if you charge porn stars with prostitution, then taking that logic further would really get you into some murky waters. How do you define sex? How about kissing and simulated sex? Then you would have to prosecute a lot of mainstream actors too. Similarly, why do you call porn prostitution but you don't call a boxing match an assault?

I don't think that's a good comparison? A boxing match is not assault because both parties are consenting. It really doesn't have anything to do with whether or not you're filming it.

The reasoning for why porn isn't prostitution is that people, for some reason, draw a large distincition between paying people to have sex and filming it and just paying people to have sex.

[Flameswroth]

You see, children, lawmakers are always hard up for sex. They gotta look PC for the public, but they wanna get their rocks off, too. Problem is, most of them are pudgy, smelly old geriatrics. By relation, their wives are also as such, so they have only a few options. The first option is to woo a younger female, but this is adulterous and viewed as wrong. Similarly, paying a prostitute for sex will get you kicked out of office really fast. But pornography allows them to act on sexual desires without actually doing anything "wrong", and its much more private.

So you see, that's why pornography's legal, but prostitution isn't, children.

EDIT: I'm not using 'children' in a condescending, derogatory sense. I'm doing a Chef impression