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What do you choose?

Normal Trial
42
46%
Trial by Combat, you represent yourself
27
30%
Trial by Combat, hire a professional fighter
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14%
Trial by Combat find a family/friend to fight for you
2
2%
Trial by Combat, use Coster-Waldau as the champion
7
8%
 
Total votes : 91

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Postby Confederate Ramenia » Sun May 31, 2015 11:07 am

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Do you know anything about Texas?

Do you know anything about Kefka/Infected Mushroom?
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Postby Aelex » Sun May 31, 2015 11:16 am

I want to get back to my first point. If you want to do an ordalie, is it possible to pass the "aqua frigida", aka l'ordalie de l'eau froide?
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun May 31, 2015 11:31 am

Confederate Ramenia wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Jesus Christ...

Do you know anything about Texas?

Do you know anything about Kefka/Infected Mushroom?

True.
But I didn't think his GoT fantasies included thinking that the Texan justice system was stuck in the Middle Ages.
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Postby Rednekylvania » Sun May 31, 2015 12:23 pm

I'm just going to say that personally I'd shove two feet of steel through anyone ignorant enough to endorse any tenet of the "might makes right" philosophy. As a community service of course, like shooting rabid dogs.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 31, 2015 12:24 pm

I'll fight to the death 8)
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Postby Filimons » Sun May 31, 2015 1:25 pm

I've done a fair bit of fencing; let's see how far that takes me.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun May 31, 2015 1:30 pm

The catch is the fighter the guv'na chooses is a little girl, but he hid that from you, so now anyone who chose TBC has to kill a little girl. How does that make you feel?
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Postby Frasers » Sun May 31, 2015 1:41 pm

yes, i like fighting and i don't have much money so skagging a gladiator to death is my best shot

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Postby Torisakia » Sun May 31, 2015 1:45 pm

Since I'm not strong at all and would die in 2 seconds flat during combat, I'll go with option 1. Would rather die in a situation where my life isn't in my own hands.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Sun May 31, 2015 1:51 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The catch is the fighter the guv'na chooses is a little girl, but he hid that from you, so now anyone who chose TBC has to kill a little girl. How does that make you feel?

If it means my innocence being proven, I don't particularly care. For all I know, that little girl could grow up to be the female version of Hitler.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 31, 2015 1:54 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The catch is the fighter the guv'na chooses is a little girl, but he hid that from you, so now anyone who chose TBC has to kill a little girl. How does that make you feel?


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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun May 31, 2015 2:06 pm

In hindsight, I don't think any professional dueller is sociopathic enough to accept an offer to stab somebody to death.
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The catch is the fighter the guv'na chooses is a little girl, but he hid that from you, so now anyone who chose TBC has to kill a little girl. How does that make you feel?

If it means my innocence being proven, I don't particularly care. For all I know, that little girl could grow up to be the female version of Hitler.

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:The catch is the fighter the guv'na chooses is a little girl, but he hid that from you, so now anyone who chose TBC has to kill a little girl. How does that make you feel?


Gladiators gotta do what gladiators gotta do.

Joke's on you, the girl is actually a sadistic magical girl with a gore and screaming fetish. Your shit is fucked.
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Postby Aalmark » Sun May 31, 2015 2:09 pm

I can't fight in combat. I'm a 26 year old man with the body of a middle school boy that has ADHD. I'd be killed within minutes.
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Postby Esternial » Sun May 31, 2015 3:30 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Esternial wrote:The entire justice system is already acting out of character because there's such a thing as "Trial By Combat".

Again, there are so many possible scenarios.


No, just maybe the justice system in Texas. Again, I didn't mention the other states so it is entirely possible they too have accepted this mechanism.

I don't see the relevance though, you can't appeal until there is a sentence (otherwise there is nothing to overturn). If you went by normal trial, its irrelevant (the trial by combat can't be a ground for reversing the outcome) and if you went trial by combat, you can't overturn a ruling that resulted in your death in the field.

Sure, but I'm still not sure the scenario you've outlined would be what would actually transpire.

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Postby Neo-Chicago » Sun May 31, 2015 3:46 pm

I hope you guys realize, out of ALL of the near 8,000 people sentenced to death since the death penalty was reinstated in 1978, only 1,408 have actually been executed. The odds are literally better going the way of the death penalty, with just over a 17% chance of being executed within the next 40 years.

Source: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/FactSheet.pdf

Source for the near 8,000 number: http://journalistsresource.org/studies/ ... statistics (Admittedly, a bit outdated. The quote is below.)

Of all those put on death row between 1977 and 2010 — a total of 7,879 people — 16% have been executed.
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Sun May 31, 2015 3:47 pm

Trial by combat is silly. It will just allow strong ass serial killers like Jason Voorhees to kill with impunity.

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Postby Jute » Sun May 31, 2015 4:41 pm

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Seriously, of course the first option. Rule of Law over rule of power, violence solves nothing, that is the job of the courts etc...


so you think you have a higher chance of winning by a normal trial?

Yes, definitely. It happens all the time. No way am I going to try a duel.
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Postby Indira » Sun May 31, 2015 4:53 pm

A normal trial thanks. Not only is trial by combat entirely dependent on who's the better fighter (and I'm willing to bet, that it's probably the other guy.) it's also pretty much aknowledged the world over as bullshit and I'm not keen on having to kill someone to prove my innocence of a crime.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sun May 31, 2015 5:13 pm

Kefka, please.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun May 31, 2015 6:03 pm

I'd fight, but I'd rather pick a different weapon, preferably a spear and shield, or a trident and weighted net.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun May 31, 2015 6:07 pm

since im a soldier i probably wouldn't mind trial by combat, but if i could afford a professional melle fighter I would, even if it made me go into debt.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun May 31, 2015 6:49 pm

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greed and death wrote:Trial by combat would create an incentive to be in shape, in case you ever need to prove your innocence.

Not really. It would just open up a market for profession fighters alongside lawyers.

Practitioners at Law and Practitioners at Lethal Combat side by side.

And since I do both, I could double my fees.


I think trial by combat is a constitutional right.
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Postby Hetaliland » Sun May 31, 2015 6:53 pm

I demand a trial by combat! The President of the USA is who I chose as my champion!
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun May 31, 2015 7:01 pm

Hetaliland wrote:I demand a trial by combat! The President of the USA is who I chose as my champion!

And to fight against the President is Lord Humongous.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun May 31, 2015 7:08 pm

greed and death wrote:
Hetaliland wrote:I demand a trial by combat! The President of the USA is who I chose as my champion!

And to fight against the President is Lord Humongous.
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He's a big guy.
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