Should women be submissive?

[Dakini]

because Christ is the head of the church and the bride is the body of the church. It says so in the New Testament. I don't know how it works but it is known to me that it says about this subject in this way in the New Testament. One can't have the head without the body . Onec One can't have the body without the head. Decapitation, the guillotine.

If I'm not mistaken, the bride is Israel or all Christians together. Men and women.
It has nothing to do with one gender being submissive/dominant.
I mean, it's a metaphor, isn't it?

It's a metaphor, but he's misquoting Ephesians.

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

[Highfort]

If I'm not mistaken, the bride is Israel or all Christians together. Men and women.
It has nothing to do with one gender being submissive/dominant.
I mean, it's a metaphor, isn't it?

It's a metaphor, but he's misquoting Ephesians.

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Let's face it if you're gonna take that advice you'd better do all that other shit like not love your family as much as Jesus and give up everything to follow him. Otherwise it's kind of hypocrisy.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

because Christ is the head of the church and the bride is the body of the church. It says so in the New Testament. I don't know how it works but it is known to me that it says about this subject in this way in the New Testament. One can't have the head without the body . Onec One can't have the body without the head. Decapitation, the guillotine.

"Okay. Stop. Hold on. I'm glad you like a book, I really am, ut just because you like something in a book doesn’t mean that you can have the thing you like in the book happen in real life"

[Dakini]

It's a metaphor, but he's misquoting Ephesians.

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Let's face it if you're gonna take that advice you'd better do all that other shit like not love your family as much as Jesus and give up everything to follow him. Otherwise it's kind of hypocrisy.

It's supposedly written by the same guy who wrote that men should never marry and all this.

[Highfort]

Let's face it if you're gonna take that advice you'd better do all that other shit like not love your family as much as Jesus and give up everything to follow him. Otherwise it's kind of hypocrisy.

It's supposedly written by the same guy who wrote that men should never marry and all this.

See this is why I like Socrates, man's all about trying new things:

"My advice to you is get married. If you find a good wife you'll be happy; if not, you'll become a philosopher."*

* Have never found a reputable source for the above quote, but fuck it.

[Serconas]

If I'm not mistaken, the bride is Israel or all Christians together. Men and women.
It has nothing to do with one gender being submissive/dominant.
I mean, it's a metaphor, isn't it?

It's a metaphor, but he's misquoting Ephesians.

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Well... 2000 years ago that was a thing.
And I probably confused this passage with a passage from the Revelation, there too is something with a bride. :B

But as others said before, if a woman/man wants to be submissive to her/his partner, it's fine with me. Being it in the bedroom or in general.

[The Huskar Social Union]

They can be what ever the fuck they want to be like anyone else, that can vary from a window cleaner to an accountant to an evil genius with their lair built in an unstable volcano for dramatic effect.

[Warpspace]

No, that stupidity belongs in the middle ages.

Women weren't submissive in the Middle Ages. Nobility managed the estate, while female peasantry was largely equal with the males in their jobs.

[Meridiani Planum]

So what is your opinion?

If a woman wants to be submissive, why not? But I wouldn't make this a moral duty.

[Bottle]

Should black people be submissive?

Should left-handed people be submissive?

Should blond people be submissive?

[Napkiraly]

My opinion is we should let women be who they want to be.

Unless they want to be Dagon. Fuck Dagon, that bastard.

[The Nuclear Fist]

My opinion is we should let women be who they want to be.

Unless they want to be Dagon. Fuck Dagon, that bastard.

I don't think we should judge Dagon just because Hydra is a submissive wife.

[Italios]

To the 20 peoppe who voted yes: Can I have your brain when you die so I can study it?

No, women should be able to behave exactly as they please, just as men do.

[Napkiraly]

Unless they want to be Dagon. Fuck Dagon, that bastard.

I don't think we should judge Dagon just because Hydra is a submissive wife.

He turns people into fish people. And if there are two things I hate on this world is people intolerant of other people's physical appearance and goddamn fish people.

[Rutuba]

They ought to respect themselves and be respected, but that does not necessarily mean fighting against 'sexism'.

[Imperial States America]

Reason: Who Cares

[Ashmoria]

Then why the hell should anyone take it as "reality" and undeniable fact when you even state that it cannot be proven?

because it's a general mentality of people.

there's a reason "nice guys finish last" is a thing

there's a reason for the "friend zone"

theres a reason for "girls going after the star quarterback"

and women love it for the most part.

women like dominant men for the most part, you can see it wherever you go, those that deny this are not accepting the reality of women and men.

as always...exceptions to the rule exist.

liking strong men doesn't make a woman submissive.

[Terra Sector Union]

Well women can be what they want. However at times, I feel like a dominating woman is not really that good. Don't people know what can happen when a woman has total control over a man? They become greedy and evil and narcissistic. Most women want to rob men of their money because that's what they lust the most. Any cautious and righteous man knows that you should stay away from a female. Stop being in a relationship. Stop marrying. Stop interacting with your mother.


Stop the goddamn matriarchy. Say No to feminism.

[Saiwania]

I just know that a lot of the male evangelicals and the social conservatives would love for women to go back to their previous role in society they held before their being in the workplace became common, but people are so quick to forget that many families need at least two or more incomes these days to even stay in the middle class.

[Republic of Coldwater]

This should be determined by the parties within the relationship.

[The Nuclear Fist]

I don't think we should judge Dagon just because Hydra is a submissive wife.

He turns people into fish people. And if there are two things I hate on this world is people intolerant of other people's physical appearance and goddamn fish people.

I'll have you know that I'm ǫ̤̤̰̤̲͇̜̳̦͐̏ͤ͊̚͞ͅn̉ͥ͗̂ͫ̌̃͐̊̋͐̑ͩ̽̂ͬ҉̛̙̠͚̦̮̬͈̪̲̺̱̳̦̝͔e̼̲͈̳̻͕̬̣̜̳̺͈̜͍̫̒̓͊ͧ͒ͧͤ͌̆̅̊̐̑̓͒͢͞/͔̣̝̑̆̌ͪ͊̆͆͂ͯ̇ͥͪ̐̕͡͝t̛̤͔͙͚̘̹͈̜̞̲̗͙̩̲̠͓͍̩ͪ͌ͫ̈́̎̍̈̃͆ͫ̋ͤͣ͝h̨͔̮̼͎͔̐̓ͫͦ̀͑̊̈̃̊̆̂͌ͥ̐͋ͣͥ͢i̧̠͔̣̫̥͉͇͈̝̬͐͊͐͋̀ͮ̂͑̍̽̀͛͊͞͡͠r̈̇͆ͤ͒̈́̔̓̂ͭ͘͘҉̳̺̯̤͙̦͙̻͎͉͍͍͉̯̯̠̭͘t͇͖͕̮͔̙͇̻͖̹̤͓̦̯͇ͨͤ̂ͮ͋̋̈́ͨ́͘͜͡y̸̶̌̐̉ͯ́̓͛ͥͮ͂ͤ̂̓ͮ͊̚͏̡̪̙͔̪̩̞̹̘̙͚̥̜̖-͒̽͂͌̈̋ͨ̐͌̒ͪ̽̄̎̾ͣ͘҉͎̺̱̝́e̢͉͈̘̖̰͕̋͑̒͛͆͊̔͆͂̑̓͋͗͒ͥͬ̈́̋͘͘į̡͓̜̗͕̟̞̮̭̠̼̝͉̼̙̱̼̮̬̽̎ͮͫͫ́̑͡g̵͕̹̲͔̠͉̱ͦ͐̑ͮ̔͐̐̉ͪ̈́̈̊͒ͭͥ̉́͡ͅt̶̲͔̭͖̱̻̺̝̟̦̺̱̖̖͆̽̉̊ͫͤ̃͊̽̓ͬ̕̕͠͡h̢̆ͪ̊̈́̽ͥ͐ͯͣ̅ͩ͑̾ͮ̔̀͝͏͈̪̺͙̺̜̤̜͔̺̭̞̯͖̲̀h fish person and have ancestors who died in the Massacre at Devil's Reef, and I find that offensive. I thought we as a people had moved past that sort of bigotry, but clearly not.

You're just as bad as the people who think women should be submissive by default.

[Singulus]

Hierarchy should be abolished in all forms. The whole notion that women should be subservient to men is not only sexist and misogynist, but also enforces the factually incorrect gender binary and robs women of their individuality. Indeed, the very notion that someone is above the other regardless of their attributes is unacceptable. It is up to individuals themselves to determine who they are and what they want to be and no outside influence should have any say in that. Tradition, religion, nature, the fabric of society and many others are likely excuses for this arbitrary inanity. I see the whole deal with gender roles as a part of a larger structure of other forms of collectivism aiming to put forcibly as many people as possible to the same mold, denying them what makes them 'them', their individuality. Nationalism is a prime example of this, especially with its melting pot and assimilationist policies, as is imperialism, where smaller areas are annexed and their people assimilated to the larger country.

Without drifting too far away from the original topic at hand, I think we can all see why the thinking described in the OP is dangerous in our own ways and perspectives. I believe that such thinking should be publicly ridiculed wherever it is encountered and our children taught why such thinking is wrong. Shame and education drive away the impressionable from harmful ways of thinking.

[Rutuba]

Hierarchy should be abolished in all forms.

And you probably claim to support liberty...

Hierarchy is fundamental for freedom and justice. Equality within a civilised society can only be imposed through oppression.

[Singulus]

Hierarchy should be abolished in all forms.

And you probably claim to support liberty...

Hierarchy is fundamental for freedom and justice. Equality within a civilised society can only be imposed through oppression.

Funny how you talk about 'imposing' equality, as the opposite is happening: hierarchy and authority are maintained by the use and threat of violence. You claim that the very thing which robs us of freedom is necessary to maintain freedom? Ridiculous.

[Saint Kitten]

Women in my views should be completely submissive to their husbands and obey their wishes. As the husband should be able to come home to a wife who has the house clean his dinner ready. When children are involved the wife should take care of them grooming them to please her husband. In other ways I view women as weak and feeble creatures who need to be put in their place by a strong male in the home.

It is unfortunate that people still think like this.