
by The New Sea Territory » Thu May 28, 2015 9:23 pm
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-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

by Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 28, 2015 9:25 pm

by Conserative Morality » Thu May 28, 2015 9:27 pm

by Atomic Utopia » Thu May 28, 2015 9:29 pm

by Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 28, 2015 9:29 pm
Atomic Utopia wrote:Well it looks like Mr.O'Reilly makes a fool of himself, news at twenty three hundred.

by Vectrova » Thu May 28, 2015 9:31 pm

by The New Sea Territory » Thu May 28, 2015 9:32 pm
Atomic Utopia wrote:Well it looks like Mr.O'Reilly makes a fool of himself, news at twenty three hundred.
Conserative Morality wrote:ISIS and Al-Nusra /=/ the entirety of the Syrian opposition.
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Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

by Cedoria » Thu May 28, 2015 9:37 pm
The New Sea Territory wrote:Source
*Note: You really don't have to listen to Kyle's (the Secular Talk host) opinions, just watch the O'Reilly clips
To sum up, Bill O'Reilly and Kirsten Powers argued on Fox about the situation in Syria and Iraq, about ISIS. Powers called O'Reilly out for, in 2013 and 2014, calling to invade Syria and overthrow Assad, in favor of the rebel forces, but now wanting to intervene against those very same rebels. He then denies that he ever analyzed Assad's actions or attacked him on his show. This is an outright lie that most Fox viewers probably didn't catch because the vast majority of the political dialogue has been focused on ISIS's horrendous actions, which hides the fact that the very same people who want to intervene against the Islamic State were arguing to support ISIS, al-Nusra and other various jihadist militants in Syria a year ago. The video above shows clips of O'Reilly and Powers in typical Fox screaming match, and clips of O'Reilly bashing Assad, directly contradicting what he said.
My Opinion
The fact that O'Reilly is even employed shows that American media is a joke. This is ridiculous. Even if you thought all of the other allegations against him were just personal attacks, this here should show the world why O'Reilly is an outright liar, a hypocrite and, above all, completely lacking any principled stands for anything. Not that I had any respect for Fox in the first place, but I think it is safe to say that nothing Bill O'Reilly says should be taken seriously in any political dialogue. Things like this make Hannity's flip-flops on the NSA look minor.
What is your opinion, NSG?

by Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 28, 2015 9:40 pm
Cedoria wrote:The New Sea Territory wrote:Source
*Note: You really don't have to listen to Kyle's (the Secular Talk host) opinions, just watch the O'Reilly clips
To sum up, Bill O'Reilly and Kirsten Powers argued on Fox about the situation in Syria and Iraq, about ISIS. Powers called O'Reilly out for, in 2013 and 2014, calling to invade Syria and overthrow Assad, in favor of the rebel forces, but now wanting to intervene against those very same rebels. He then denies that he ever analyzed Assad's actions or attacked him on his show. This is an outright lie that most Fox viewers probably didn't catch because the vast majority of the political dialogue has been focused on ISIS's horrendous actions, which hides the fact that the very same people who want to intervene against the Islamic State were arguing to support ISIS, al-Nusra and other various jihadist militants in Syria a year ago. The video above shows clips of O'Reilly and Powers in typical Fox screaming match, and clips of O'Reilly bashing Assad, directly contradicting what he said.
My Opinion
The fact that O'Reilly is even employed shows that American media is a joke. This is ridiculous. Even if you thought all of the other allegations against him were just personal attacks, this here should show the world why O'Reilly is an outright liar, a hypocrite and, above all, completely lacking any principled stands for anything. Not that I had any respect for Fox in the first place, but I think it is safe to say that nothing Bill O'Reilly says should be taken seriously in any political dialogue. Things like this make Hannity's flip-flops on the NSA look minor.
What is your opinion, NSG?
I think we should have an international day of no outrage, were any commentator can say whatever stupid thing that they like without other people getting offended and screaming at them.
O'Reilly's a twerp I agree, no credibility whatsoever, but I don't think people should get upset about it.
Why? Because, and here's the real reason.
He's O'Reilly,
And I don't expect cogent or rational political analysis from a man who makes Homer Simpson look like a genius.
Don't worry about O'Reilly's idiocy. Leave him to his own psychotic delusions, and get on with doing good things in life yourself, we know the truth is not as O'Reilly says it is.
Trying to engage with material such as O'Reilly present in an intelligent manner would only give him what he doesn't deserve. Journalistic credibility, because it would mean he would be questioned by people far more intelligent than him, which would make people think he had anything worth saying, which he doesn't.

by Occupied Deutschland » Thu May 28, 2015 10:07 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:ISIS and Al-Nusra /=/ the entirety of the Syrian opposition.

by Eastern Equestria » Thu May 28, 2015 10:14 pm
by Wallenburg » Thu May 28, 2015 10:15 pm
by Wallenburg » Thu May 28, 2015 10:16 pm
Eastern Equestria wrote:Calling out Bill O'Reilly on his bullshit is getting pretty redundant at this point. Didn't we have a thread about his credibility as journalist a day or two ago?

by Atomic Utopia » Thu May 28, 2015 10:25 pm
Eastern Equestria wrote:Calling out Bill O'Reilly on his bullshit is getting pretty redundant at this point. Didn't we just have a thread about his journalistic credibility a day or two ago?

by Eastern Equestria » Thu May 28, 2015 10:29 pm
Atomic Utopia wrote:Eastern Equestria wrote:Calling out Bill O'Reilly on his bullshit is getting pretty redundant at this point. Didn't we just have a thread about his journalistic credibility a day or two ago?
What journalistic credibility? He has journalistic credibility now? Well Mr. O'Reilly having even the tiniest bit of journalistic credibility is new to me.

by The New Sea Territory » Thu May 28, 2015 10:29 pm
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:ISIS and Al-Nusra /=/ the entirety of the Syrian opposition.
^This, pretty much. When the Syrian Civil War was more 'Assad versus a bevy of other rebel organizations' and less 'Assad versus ISIS', a lot of people hopped on board the bandwagon condemning Assad and his governments responses. Oftentimes very short-sightedly. and across the political spectrum. While easily condemnable (alongside a host of other media personalities, on FOX and other news networks beside for similar reasons), I'd be more concerned over the similar (cross-party) statements made by members of government who held (and hold) the power to do it (particularly those still in government whence advocating action against ISIS) and who also dismiss their past calls to arms under a veil of silence.
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Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

by Dragonia Re Xzua » Thu May 28, 2015 10:34 pm
Cedoria wrote:
I think we should have an international day of no outrage, were any commentator can say whatever stupid thing that they like without other people getting offended and screaming at them.
O'Reilly's a twerp I agree, no credibility whatsoever, but I don't think people should get upset about it.
Why? Because, and here's the real reason.
He's O'Reilly,
And I don't expect cogent or rational political analysis from a man who makes Homer Simpson look like a genius.
Don't worry about O'Reilly's idiocy. Leave him to his own psychotic delusions, and get on with doing good things in life yourself, we know the truth is not as O'Reilly says it is.
Trying to engage with material such as O'Reilly present in an intelligent manner would only give him what he doesn't deserve. Journalistic credibility, because it would mean he would be questioned by people far more intelligent than him, which would make people think he had anything worth saying, which he doesn't.
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by Russels Orbiting Teapot » Thu May 28, 2015 11:45 pm
The BaRen wrote:And, like the average, working class, half-and-half American, I don't. Freaking. Care. I'm more concerned about making rent than I am about the media, which I already know is full of shit, regardless of the network.

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