Analyzing a "Feminist thought" quiz

[Natapoc]

Liberal feminist 46
Women of Color 23
Socialist feminist 18
Radical feminist 16
Conservative 14
Cultural feminist 13

Well then, many of those questions were absurdly disgusting. So many sexist questions - going both ways. I don't really think the test misrepresents any of these ideologies, however.

But I do think that is a skewed representation of philosophies dealing with gender equality. If it was simply meant to be feminist, why not omit conservatism.

Because there exist conservative feminists.

[LimeTreeByTheSea]

But I do think that is a skewed representation of philosophies dealing with gender equality. If it was simply meant to be feminist, why not omit conservatism.

Because there exist conservative feminists.

But then there exist an entire spectrum of feminism. That is really my point. I dont think this represent the spectrum. I dont even think it represents the population.

[LimeTreeByTheSea]

I took a philosophy class, a series actually, with many feminist in the class. All but a handful of them would reject the idea of conservative feminism or conservatives in general, as well capitalist, being congruent with any feminist ideology.

[Neo-Chicago]

I seriously wish there was an option for "I recognize that this is true, but I think it's a good thing", such as with "Men's control over women forces women to be the primary caretakers of children." Anyway, I didn't finish the quiz because it was just total bulllshit.

[Camicon]

I seriously wish there was an option for "I recognize that this is true, but I think it's a good thing", such as with "Men's control over women forces women to be the primary caretakers of children."

It's a good thing that women with jobs suffer setbacks in their careers because they are the primary caregivers of children? It's a good thing that men who would like to stay home and raise their children often cannot, or risk of becoming social pariahs? It's a good thing that outdated social norms are the primary case for this division?

[LimeTreeByTheSea]

I seriously wish there was an option for "I recognize that this is true, but I think it's a good thing", such as with "Men's control over women forces women to be the primary caretakers of children." Anyway, I didn't finish the quiz because it was just total bulllshit.

I think that the option you are looking for is agree.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

I took a philosophy class, a series actually, with many feminist in the class. All but a handful of them would reject the idea of conservative feminism or conservatives in general, as well capitalist, being congruent with any feminist ideology.

Which is all well and good, but that small group doesn't really mean much as to the whole. There are indeed conservative feminists, and there are indeed feminists who adhere to the capitalist system. Not sure how capitalism and feminism are mutually exclusive though.

[Natapoc]

I took a philosophy class, a series actually, with many feminist in the class. All but a handful of them would reject the idea of conservative feminism or conservatives in general, as well capitalist, being congruent with any feminist ideology.

There is a tendency on the left to use increasingly strict rules on who can belong to which ideology. The net effect of this is as follows:

Step 1. Your group has widespread appeal and starts getting things done!
Step 2. Your internal core decides that exploitative labor conditions are exploitative. Everyone who Likes to shop at walmart or is into consumer culture is driven out.
Step 3. Your group now has much more ideological purity. You are all staunchly anti consumerist and feminist but whereas your protests used to draw crowds of 1000+, you are now lucky to get 100 on a good day.

...
Step n-2. Your core group size is now 5. One of whom is an undercovver FBI agent and 2 of which are undercover private security. The consensus is that if you don't support illegal direct action (Even direct action that can result in personal injury) you are not a real activist.

Step n-1. Your meetings have been getting very hostile and so you decide to stop going. The two undercover private security people stop attending also because your group is now so small that it's no longer worth trying to sabotage.

Step n. The group size is now 2. You read in the newspaper that the sole remaining member of your group who was not law enforcement Was jailed for conspiracy.

That guy was a reactionary anyway!

And this is why it's better to go ahead and let feminists who consider themselves capitalists and conservatives to stay even if you disagree with them on all sorts of other things.

[LimeTreeByTheSea]

I took a philosophy class, a series actually, with many feminist in the class. All but a handful of them would reject the idea of conservative feminism or conservatives in general, as well capitalist, being congruent with any feminist ideology.

Which is all well and good, but that small group doesn't really mean much as to the whole. There are indeed conservative feminists, and there are indeed feminists who adhere to the capitalist system. Not sure how capitalism and feminism are mutually exclusive though.

No offense, but it's called a sample. It literally represents the population. Since I took multiple classes it a series of samples. There is no reason to believe that the sample was particularly bias. Given the overwhelming amount of feminist adverse to capitalism and conservatism it would be hard to believe that the population was so different as to be inverse of what I saw.

[LimeTreeByTheSea]

And if you were going to sample feminist, a liberal arts philosophy department would probably be your target to find the population statistics.

[LimeTreeByTheSea]

I took a philosophy class, a series actually, with many feminist in the class. All but a handful of them would reject the idea of conservative feminism or conservatives in general, as well capitalist, being congruent with any feminist ideology.

There is a tendency on the left to use increasingly strict rules on who can belong to which ideology. The net effect of this is as follows:

Step 1. Your group has widespread appeal and starts getting things done!
Step 2. Your internal core decides that exploitative labor conditions are exploitative. Everyone who Likes to shop at walmart or is into consumer culture is driven out.
Step 3. Your group now has much more ideological purity. You are all staunchly anti consumerist and feminist but whereas your protests used to draw crowds of 1000+, you are now lucky to get 100 on a good day.

...
Step n-2. Your core group size is now 5. One of whom is an undercovver FBI agent and 2 of which are undercover private security. The consensus is that if you don't support illegal direct action (Even direct action that can result in personal injury) you are not a real activist.

Step n-1. Your meetings have been getting very hostile and so you decide to stop going. The two undercover private security people stop attending also because your group is now so small that it's no longer worth trying to sabotage.

Step n. The group size is now 2. You read in the newspaper that the sole remaining member of your group who was not law enforcement Was jailed for conspiracy.

That guy was a reactionary anyway!

And this is why it's better to go ahead and let feminists who consider themselves capitalists and conservatives to stay even if you disagree with them on all sorts of other things.

Well I would agree. But I dont set the agenda of Feminism in US universities.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Which is all well and good, but that small group doesn't really mean much as to the whole. There are indeed conservative feminists, and there are indeed feminists who adhere to the capitalist system. Not sure how capitalism and feminism are mutually exclusive though.

No offense, but it's called a sample. It literally represents the population. Since I took multiple classes it a series of samples. There is no reason to believe that the sample was particularly bias. Given the overwhelming amount of feminist adverse to capitalism and conservatism it would be hard to believe that the population was so different as to be inverse of what I saw.

It may reflect the tendency of feminism to be more widespread among the left, which is most certainly the case, but it doesn't mean feminism as a whole rejects conservatism and capitalism all together as you seemed to implimply.

[LimeTreeByTheSea]

No offense, but it's called a sample. It literally represents the population. Since I took multiple classes it a series of samples. There is no reason to believe that the sample was particularly bias. Given the overwhelming amount of feminist adverse to capitalism and conservatism it would be hard to believe that the population was so different as to be inverse of what I saw.

It may reflect the tendency of feminism to be more widespread among the left, which is most certainly the case, but it doesn't mean feminism as a whole rejects conservatism and capitalism all together as you seemed to implimply.

If there are ten thousand true political nihilist in the world and all but one decides that nihilism rejects any type of social organization would you say political nihilism rejects any type of social construct or organization? This turns to a semantic argument otherwise. I claim that application is evidence of doctrine and that feminism in application has overwhelming rejected capitalism and conservatism. Take my example one step further, lets say next year that political nihilist dies. Essentially nothing has changed. If you accept third wave feminism as representing feminism in modernity then you must reject capitalism. Otherwise you are changing definitions to fit the argument. In my opinion.

[Frisbeeteria]

You got a real attitude problem. You should "get the fuck out of here" if you don't know how to have a conversation like an adult lol.

I suggest you go fuck yourself with that attitude. HERE'S where you can start.

I suggest you take a *** 24 hour Forumban for flaming and linking to a porn site *** even if the actual page wasn't pornographic.

image spam snipped

Warned for image spam. I don't ever want to see that GIF again, from you or from anyone.

[Gnork]

I suggest you go fuck yourself with that attitude. HERE'S where you can start.

I suggest you take a *** 24 hour Forumban for flaming and linking to a porn site *** even if the actual page wasn't pornographic.

image spam snipped

Warned for image spam. I don't ever want to see that GIF again, from you or from anyone.

Can't find in the rules where it says not to post images like this...or which ones are forbidden... alright, won't happen again.

Would you mind telling me what else might be outlawed but isn't written down so I can avoid breaking rules here?

[Camicon]

*snip*
Can't find in the rules where it says not to post images like this...or which ones are forbidden... alright, won't happen again. (Image)

Would you mind telling me what else might be outlawed but isn't written down so I can avoid breaking rules here?

It's in the OSRS.

Ctrl+F, image spam: "Image Spam: Posting of images, particularly repeated or multiple images, that do not serve to help the flow of the thread. This includes images in both in-character and out-of-character posts."

[Gnork]

*snip*
Can't find in the rules where it says not to post images like this...or which ones are forbidden... alright, won't happen again. (Image)

Would you mind telling me what else might be outlawed but isn't written down so I can avoid breaking rules here?

It's in the OSRS.

Ctrl+F, image spam: "Image Spam: Posting of images, particularly repeated or multiple images, that do not serve to help the flow of the thread. This includes images in both in-character and out-of-character posts."

Thanks.