Turkey Votes 2015(Parliamentary elections)

[Chameliya]

Really, really hoping the HDP gets over that insanely high threshold. Watching anxiously from the UK.

[New Werpland]

Erdogan killed him, is that what you think?

He did say the following concerning the matter: "I gave the order myself."

Make of it what you will. I will assume you support the AKP, then?

I'm sure cal doesn't support AKP. But I will say he has a hard time seeing the malevolence present in various governments around the world.

[Mollary]

Looks like the AKP have lost their majority; who is mostly likely to form a government now?

[Purger]

In commenting on the blue parts, I do not think a good part of Central Asia wants anything to do with so called Western democracy. They prefer there own so called political systems which might seem democratic but for some do not really seem democratic.

Better not to angry the Russian bear. Some Central Asian nations are still dependent on Russia. Also, plenty of Central Asia is going the way of China. After all, some of them border China while not all of them border Russia. Also, the Chinese are investing in infrastructure projects in those nations.

True with the first paragrapf, but it should not prevent Turkey to have influence there. The political system of Russia is better than thoose of the West so that there should be invented a type of the rule of people that is not western, some Asian type or so.

Has for Azerbaijan, the leadership there seems to be playing other nations for there advantage. Do not forget that in the region there seems to be a Sunni and Shia hatred for each other. Turkey is majority Sunni while Azerbaijan is majority Shia .

Do you know the Nagoro-Karabakh conflict?

Turkey was openly arming Azerbaijan and even got millitarly involved on the side of Azerbaijan so religion would not tear apart Turkey and Azerbaijan.

[Purger]

The West is in crisis? Source, please, for that claim.

Also, "Westernisation" and "integrating with the West" does not necessarily mean joining the European Union. While I believe in the European Union project and would like Turkey to enter it at some point in the future, by "Westernisation" I mean a Western standard of prosperity, freedom and justice, among many other things.

Well look the EU. Britain will secede from the EU while there were be more cases like Greece. On other hand there is China and Russia that are becoming more powerfull. This is an evidence for me that the West is in crisis.

Does this "Westernisaton" fits your culture and habits? If not it is better you have your own path of development.

Looks like the AKP have lost their majority; who is mostly likely to form a government now?

I m cheering for a MHP-CHP coalition.

[Vistulange]

Looks like the AKP have lost their majority; who is mostly likely to form a government now?

Eh...that's a very difficult question to answer. The AKP could potentially form a coalition or minority government with the MHP. The CHP and HDP have already refused to support the AKP in any way.

I'm looking at an early election.

[Geilinor]

The West is in crisis? Source, please, for that claim.

Also, "Westernisation" and "integrating with the West" does not necessarily mean joining the European Union. While I believe in the European Union project and would like Turkey to enter it at some point in the future, by "Westernisation" I mean a Western standard of prosperity, freedom and justice, among many other things.

Well look the EU. Britain will secede from the EU while there were be more cases like Greece. On other hand there is China and Russia that are becoming more powerfull. This is an evidence for me that the West is in crisis.

Does this "Westernisaton" fits your culture and habits? If not it is better you have your own path of development.

Looks like the AKP have lost their majority; who is mostly likely to form a government now?

I m cheering for a MHP-CHP coalition.

According to polls, most Britons say they support remaining in the EU.

[Purger]

And?
They were historically Byzantine before and historically Roman before that, but I don't see the municipality of Rome claiming the Empire's eastern territories. Empires rise and fall and no one asks the people beneath their opinion, your "logic" regarding "historical claims" is as faulted as is revanchism.

Start learning some usefull stuff.

Bad comparison, there is no ancient Roman around in the world that can claim anything.

Look the other perspective, if thoose poor Greeks should stop be nationalistic and joined Turkey than they will benefit. Why are the Greeks so nationalistic at all?

[Aarnonia]

Has for Azerbaijan, the leadership there seems to be playing other nations for there advantage. Do not forget that in the region there seems to be a Sunni and Shia hatred for each other. Turkey is majority Sunni while Azerbaijan is majority Shia .

Do you know the Nagoro-Karabakh conflict?

Turkey was openly arming Azerbaijan and even got millitarly involved on the side of Azerbaijan so religion would not tear apart Turkey and Azerbaijan.

Turkey is Azerbaijan's best friend, no matter how Islamist they get I think they'll stick together.

[Vistulange]

I m cheering for a MHP-CHP coalition.

Cheer all you want, they aren't going to get their total to 276 seats.

[Purger]

According to polls, most Britons say they support remaining in the EU.

According to polls Cameron should have not be PM, the Scots would already be independent and Duda would not be Polish president... IPSOS sucks.

But if IPSOS say that majority of Brits want to stay in the EU than it is a good sign for British euroscpetics.

[Aarnonia]

Looks like the AKP have lost their majority; who is mostly likely to form a government now?

Eh...that's a very difficult question to answer. The AKP could potentially form a coalition or minority government with the MHP. The CHP and HDP have already refused to support the AKP in any way.

I'm looking at an early election.

A MHP-AKP coalition is possible, but not very realistic. They both hate each other.

[Aarnonia]

I m cheering for a MHP-CHP coalition.

Cheer all you want, they aren't going to get their total to 276 seats.

Unless HDP is in. But then MHP is out. Crap, I think the army may decide to step in.

[Steamtopia]

Eh...that's a very difficult question to answer. The AKP could potentially form a coalition or minority government with the MHP. The CHP and HDP have already refused to support the AKP in any way.

I'm looking at an early election.

A MHP-AKP coalition is possible, but not very realistic. They both hate each other.

Less than AKP/CHP, no?

[Anollasia]

Cheer all you want, they aren't going to get their total to 276 seats.

Unless HDP is in. But then MHP is out. Crap, I think the army may decide to step in.

Too bad Erdogan suppressed the army. Otherwise, he would have been gone a long time ago.

[Aarnonia]

A MHP-AKP coalition is possible, but not very realistic. They both hate each other.

Less than AKP/CHP, no?

Well, yeah. Chances are, minority government.

[Geilinor]

Cheer all you want, they aren't going to get their total to 276 seats.

Unless HDP is in. But then MHP is out. Crap, I think the army may decide to step in.

New elections exist, you know.

[Steamtopia]

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.as ... el=6184106

[Purger]

I m cheering for a MHP-CHP coalition.

Cheer all you want, they aren't going to get their total to 276 seats.

Oh, are you serious? This will meant Devagoglu will became PM.

[Aarnonia]

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6184106

Not really a surprise.

[Anollasia]

Cheer all you want, they aren't going to get their total to 276 seats.

Oh, are you serious? This will meant Devagoglu will became PM.

You totally butchered his name. He deserves it.

[Purger]

Cheer all you want, they aren't going to get their total to 276 seats.

Unless HDP is in. But then MHP is out. Crap, I think the army may decide to step in.

Imposible. Erdogan has purged the army from Kemalists.

[Steamtopia]

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6184106

Not really a surprise.

Just disappointing.

[Camelza]

And?
They were historically Byzantine before and historically Roman before that, but I don't see the municipality of Rome claiming the Empire's eastern territories. Empires rise and fall and no one asks the people beneath their opinion, your "logic" regarding "historical claims" is as faulted as is revanchism.

Start learning some usefull stuff.

Bad comparison, there is no ancient Roman around in the world that can claim anything.

There are plenty of modern Romans though. So, it's actually a very good comparisson; a modern Turk or any modern Balkan has as much legitimacy to claim other nations' lands as a modern Roman would have to claim the lands of the Roman Empire.
Stop vewing the real world as if it was some game made by Paradox and start respecting (1)national borders, (2)the right to self-determination, (3)your credibility as a poster.

[Vistulange]

Unless HDP is in. But then MHP is out. Crap, I think the army may decide to step in.

Imposible. Erdogan has purged the army from Kemalists.

Not exactly. You see, the Turkish Armed Forces has an odd dynamic different from many other nations. The Armed Forces have conducted a previous coup d'etat without adhering to the chain of command. As such, anybody looking to pacify the Armed Forces needs to pacify the entire organization, not just the top levels. And that is no easy task.

And the army doesn't execute coups just because of a hung parliament, get your facts right. I say it again, early elections.