Biker gang shootout...

[The United Remnants of America]

Why did the SA run around in uniforms before the Nazis got into power?
Why do the Crips and the Bloods wear gang colours?

Tbf the Bloods and Crips have started wearing less obvious attire as a result of police pressure. Still prevalent enough though that probably not the best idea to go walking through eithers area wearing the others colours.

It's so bad you can even go through Crip territory wearing a pair of blue jeans.

[Napkiraly]

Tbf the Bloods and Crips have started wearing less obvious attire as a result of police pressure. Still prevalent enough though that probably not the best idea to go walking through eithers area wearing the others colours.

It's so bad you can even go through Crip territory wearing a pair of blue jeans.

Er, Crips identify with blue.

[The United Remnants of America]

It's so bad you can even go through Crip territory wearing a pair of blue jeans.

Er, Crips identify with blue.

...... I spoke this post out loud as I typed it.

I said "Blood" even as I typed Crip.

What the fuck is wrong with me?

[Greed and Death]

This is just ridiculous, why would any smart criminal ever identify himself with a motorcycle and make his criminality obvious ? There is something bizzare about this

Why did the SA run around in uniforms before the Nazis got into power?
Why do the Crips and the Bloods wear gang colours?

The uniform reinforces group identity, makes people more willing to commit acts they would not normally do without that group identity.

[Ethel mermania]

They ride bikes.

They're a gang.

Biker... gang. Biker gang.

See, over here in the land of 'Murica, we have to come up with some way to differentiate your average run-of-the-mill street gang thugs with your Harley-riding thugs. Hence why they're called a biker gang. Your "biker gang" is a motorcycle club. An actual motorcycle club, too, since biker gangs here try to legitimize themselves by saying they're motorcycle clubs.

And yes. If a group of criminals got organized, became a gang, and became known for driving cars. They'd become a car gangs. The Japanese actually have car gangs. They're called Bozozoku(Spelling may be off), which is, I'm guessing,r Japanese for "Car Gang."

So I'm not seeing your point here with any of this.

This is just ridiculous, why would any smart criminal ever identify himself with a motorcycle and make his criminality obvious ? There is something bizzare about this

Why do Criminals post Facebook photos of the stuff they steal? Your assuming an intelligence, that is not always there.

[Imperializt Russia]

Why did the SA run around in uniforms before the Nazis got into power?
Why do the Crips and the Bloods wear gang colours?

The uniform reinforces group identity, makes people more willing to commit acts they would not normally do without that group identity.

I know that, I'm trying to point that out to Naush.

[New Skaaneland]

When I was young Hells Angels and Bandidos once had a long and bitter fight in and around my home town. They fought it out among themselves and once they made a truce they'd set a standard which nazis and immigrants nor football hooligans could quite touch. It became sort of a definition of what was a criminal and that could well have been part of creating a general climate which was more relaxed. People used to have some common sense, rather than to slavishly follow the laws (which tend to be quite absurd, not least here in Sweden).

While I'm not affiliated with any gang I do think it's healthy to have a few organisations around with the potential to challenge the state. Although bikers can instill fear in some, it's actually a good thing for most people if the authorites aren't in complete control.

[Napkiraly]

When I was young Hells Angels and Bandidos once had a long and bitter fight in and around my home town. They fought it out among themselves and once they made a truce they'd set a standard which nazis and immigrants nor football hooligans could quite touch. It became sort of a definition of what was a criminal and that could well have been part of creating a general climate which was more relaxed. People used to have some common sense, rather than to slavishly follow the laws (which tend to be quite absurd, not least here in Sweden).

While I'm not affiliated with any gang I do think it's healthy to have a few organisations around with the potential to challenge the state. Although bikers can instill fear in some, it's actually a good thing for most people if the authorites aren't in complete control.

Yeah man we should totally having murderers, sex slavers, drug pushers, blackmailers, etc. on the street. Who cares if they do shit like set off car bombs that kill 11 year old kids. Or start brawls in the middle of crowded airports. Or start shooting up restaurants and casinos.

[Luziyca]

Waco seems like a bad place to be at. *cough* Waco compound *cough*

[The United Remnants of America]

Waco seems like a bad place to be at. *cough* Waco compound *cough*

I made the same observation IRL.

[Sociobiology]

When I was young Hells Angels and Bandidos once had a long and bitter fight in and around my home town. They fought it out among themselves and once they made a truce they'd set a standard which nazis and immigrants nor football hooligans could quite touch. It became sort of a definition of what was a criminal and that could well have been part of creating a general climate which was more relaxed. People used to have some common sense, rather than to slavishly follow the laws (which tend to be quite absurd, not least here in Sweden).

While I'm not affiliated with any gang I do think it's healthy to have a few organisations around with the potential to challenge the state. Although bikers can instill fear in some, it's actually a good thing for most people if the authorites aren't in complete control.

Yeah man we should totally having murderers, sex slavers, drug pushers, blackmailers, etc. on the street. Who cares if they do shit like set off car bombs that kill 11 year old kids. Or start brawls in the middle of crowded airports. Or start shooting up restaurants and casinos.

Are you talking about the police or the bikers?

[Napkiraly]

Yeah man we should totally having murderers, sex slavers, drug pushers, blackmailers, etc. on the street. Who cares if they do shit like set off car bombs that kill 11 year old kids. Or start brawls in the middle of crowded airports. Or start shooting up restaurants and casinos.

Are you talking about the police or the bikers?

Bikers obviously. Last time I checked police officers don't plant car bombs.

[Ifreann]

Ban Waco.

[The United Remnants of America]

Are you talking about the police or the bikers?

Bikers obviously. Last time I checked police officers don't plant car bombs.

I like how out of all the examples you gave, that's the only one you were sure separated police and criminals.

[Napkiraly]

Bikers obviously. Last time I checked police officers don't plant car bombs.

I like how out of all the examples you gave, that's the only one you were sure separated police and criminals.

Well lets be honest, at some point somewhere a corrupt POS cop has committed one of those crimes.

However for the most part they aren't pimps, or selling crack, or performing contract hits etc.

[The Sotoan Union]

Some biker thugs shot some other biker thugs. I am not crying.

Me neither. These thugs are no different than the inner city gangs.

A shootout that had the potential to injure completely innocent bystanders is disturbing to me.

[Greed and Death]

When I was young Hells Angels and Bandidos once had a long and bitter fight in and around my home town. They fought it out among themselves and once they made a truce they'd set a standard which nazis and immigrants nor football hooligans could quite touch. It became sort of a definition of what was a criminal and that could well have been part of creating a general climate which was more relaxed. People used to have some common sense, rather than to slavishly follow the laws (which tend to be quite absurd, not least here in Sweden).

While I'm not affiliated with any gang I do think it's healthy to have a few organisations around with the potential to challenge the state. Although bikers can instill fear in some, it's actually a good thing for most people if the authorites aren't in complete control.

Yeah man we should totally having murderers, sex slavers, drug pushers, blackmailers, etc. on the street. Who cares if they do shit like set off car bombs that kill 11 year old kids. Or start brawls in the middle of crowded airports. Or start shooting up restaurants and casinos.

Got to break a few eggs to make an omelette, best we make the bikers above the law to protect freedom.

[Imperializt Russia]

When I was young Hells Angels and Bandidos once had a long and bitter fight in and around my home town. They fought it out among themselves and once they made a truce they'd set a standard which nazis and immigrants nor football hooligans could quite touch. It became sort of a definition of what was a criminal and that could well have been part of creating a general climate which was more relaxed. People used to have some common sense, rather than to slavishly follow the laws (which tend to be quite absurd, not least here in Sweden).

While I'm not affiliated with any gang I do think it's healthy to have a few organisations around with the potential to challenge the state. Although bikers can instill fear in some, it's actually a good thing for most people if the authorites aren't in complete control.

And if the people in gang-controlled areas don't want to be under their control? They shouldn't have to move.

[Ethel mermania]

Yeah man we should totally having murderers, sex slavers, drug pushers, blackmailers, etc. on the street. Who cares if they do shit like set off car bombs that kill 11 year old kids. Or start brawls in the middle of crowded airports. Or start shooting up restaurants and casinos.

Got to break a few eggs to make an omelette, best we make the bikers above the law to protect freedom.

You representing sonny Barger again?

[The United Remnants of America]

I like how out of all the examples you gave, that's the only one you were sure separated police and criminals.

Well lets be honest, at some point somewhere a corrupt POS cop has committed one of those crimes.

However for the most part they aren't pimps, or selling crack, or performing contract hits etc.

Well, if you wanna put it like that, then I'm sure a cop somewhere mae a car bomb.

[New Skaaneland]

When I was young Hells Angels and Bandidos once had a long and bitter fight in and around my home town. They fought it out among themselves and once they made a truce they'd set a standard which nazis and immigrants nor football hooligans could quite touch. It became sort of a definition of what was a criminal and that could well have been part of creating a general climate which was more relaxed. People used to have some common sense, rather than to slavishly follow the laws (which tend to be quite absurd, not least here in Sweden).

While I'm not affiliated with any gang I do think it's healthy to have a few organisations around with the potential to challenge the state. Although bikers can instill fear in some, it's actually a good thing for most people if the authorites aren't in complete control.

And if the people in gang-controlled areas don't want to be under their control? They shouldn't have to move.

I kind of agree with that aswell. Balance is the key, although regardless of power structures there will always be people who suffer from it.

[The United Remnants of America]

And if the people in gang-controlled areas don't want to be under their control? They shouldn't have to move.

I kind of agree with that aswell. Balance is the key, although regardless of power structures there will always be people who suffer from it.

Hopefully they're the criminals.

[Napkiraly]

Well lets be honest, at some point somewhere a corrupt POS cop has committed one of those crimes.

However for the most part they aren't pimps, or selling crack, or performing contract hits etc.

Well, if you wanna put it like that, then I'm sure a cop somewhere mae a car bomb.

Probably yeah. But at the end of the day having gangs roaming about is a rather shite thing and shouldn't be viewed as some glamours defence against the state. Considering the shit they do.

[Imperializt Russia]

And if the people in gang-controlled areas don't want to be under their control? They shouldn't have to move.

I kind of agree with that aswell. Balance is the key, although regardless of power structures there will always be people who suffer from it.

If one can just secede from the control of the authorities, or align with a non-authority power, it kind of makes the authorities and indeed the concept of territory and state arbitrary if not pointless, don't you think?

[New Skaaneland]

I kind of agree with that aswell. Balance is the key, although regardless of power structures there will always be people who suffer from it.

Hopefully they're the criminals.

Define "criminals".