Biker gang shootout...

[Prudhoe Bay]

Exactly~



Belgium did.

I despise Belgium, save for their excellent beer and chocolate.

You despise waffles, too?

[Napkiraly]

W...who says there's no organized crime in the US? What blessedly sheltered twits are they? Might as well say there are no cats in America.

Exactly~

Ban bikers. Then there would be no more of this nonsense.

Belgium did.

Sauce on the last bit.

[Napkiraly]

I've never met an American who claims that organized crime doesn't exist on a national level. Hell, anyone with a cursory knowledge of organized crime in the USA will know about The Commission.

The average American you find on the street.

Would acknowledge that organized crime exists.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Are they not largely made up of ex-military personnel?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Gangs are just small governments.

Think about it for a second.

Fighting over territory and resources. Warring with no regard for collateral damage. Involved in drug trade and encourage racism/regionalism/etc.

[Naushantiya]

Thank god Biker gangs over here just want to ride to Bhutan, Nepal and Khardung la or just ride rough himalayan roads. I am a part of a biker gang and almost everybody here is either a software engineer with a bullet or just some random dude who owns a bullet, I never can possibly correlate biking with criminality as many people here are doing. This is just fucking silly

I don't even think that Biker gangs will allow you drive if your drunk, most people are either retd serving army officers, software engineers, students, sometimes we have tourists ( altough we have adopted a no foreigner policy but the nice foreigners are allowed). So basically as usual Nsg has got it all wrong, it is nothing surprising. If a criminal rides a motorcycle then it is a biker gang, would the same logic apply to a group of people driving in cars ? Would you call them a car gang ? this has just taken stupid to the newest possible level

[Ethel mermania]

And we are to discuss what? How shitty outlaw bikers are? Well, yeah of course they are.

Not all. Bikers Against Child Abuse are a good group.

Outlaw bikers, is the operatiVe phrase, most biker groups are perfectly fine. The 1% ers not so much.

[Ethel mermania]

I despise Belgium, save for their excellent beer and chocolate.

You despise waffles, too?

They ruin french fries with.... mayonnaise.

[The United Remnants of America]

Thank god Biker gangs over here just want to ride to Bhutan, Nepal and Khardung la or just ride rough himalayan roads. I am a part of a biker gang and almost everybody here is either a software engineer with a bullet or just some random dude who owns a bullet, I never can possibly correlate biking with criminality as many people here are doing. This is just fucking silly

I don't even think that Biker gangs will allow you drive if your drunk, most people are either retd serving army officers, software engineers, students, sometimes we have tourists ( altough we have adopted a no foreigner policy but the nice foreigners are allowed). So basically as usual Nsg has got it all wrong, it is nothing surprising. If a criminal rides a motorcycle then it is a biker gang, would the same logic apply to a group of people driving in cars ? Would you call them a car gang ? this has just taken stupid to the newest possible level

They ride bikes.

They're a gang.

Biker... gang. Biker gang.

See, over here in the land of 'Murica, we have to come up with some way to differentiate your average run-of-the-mill street gang thugs with your Harley-riding thugs. Hence why they're called a biker gang. Your "biker gang" is a motorcycle club. An actual motorcycle club, too, since biker gangs here try to legitimize themselves by saying they're motorcycle clubs.

And yes. If a group of criminals got organized, became a gang, and became known for driving cars. They'd become a car gangs. The Japanese actually have car gangs. They're called Bozozoku(Spelling may be off), which is, I'm guessing, Japanese for "Car Gang."

So I'm not seeing your point here with any of this.

[Napkiraly]

You despise waffles, too?

They ruin french fries with.... mayonnaise.

The only way to eat chips properly is with gravy and cheese curds. Anything else is heresy.

[Ethel mermania]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/texas- ... ang-brawl/

Tdlr, the gang fight will continue and grow in size and scope.

While I usually don't support the militarization of the police, as this situation gets worse, I understand the reason it happens.

[The United Remnants of America]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/texas-biker-gang-brawl/

Tdlr, the gang fight will continue and grow in size and scope.

While I usually don't support the militarization of the police, as this situation gets worse, I understand the reason it happens.

Odd balance isn't it?

We see the rationality on why the police needs to be more powerful, but then we see things like Ferguson happen because the police is too powerful.

Where do we strike the balance between a police strong enough to keep people safe from organized crime and gang violence, but safe enough so that they don't kill unarmed innocent people?

[Imperializt Russia]

Ban bikers. Then there would be no more of this nonsense.

That's nonsense.

[Imperializt Russia]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/texas-biker-gang-brawl/

Tdlr, the gang fight will continue and grow in size and scope.

While I usually don't support the militarization of the police, as this situation gets worse, I understand the reason it happens.

Odd balance isn't it?

We see the rationality on why the police needs to be more powerful, but then we see things like Ferguson happen because the police is too powerful.

Where do we strike the balance between a police strong enough to keep people safe from organized crime and gang violence, but safe enough so that they don't kill unarmed innocent people?

Ferguson wasn't the result of militarised police, it just inflamed tensions once the initial event occurred.
Of course, it officers were better trained and didn't think to solely rely on their firearms for compliance and control, then the issues of militarised police in the Ferguson demonstrations would never have been apparent.

[Ethel mermania]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/texas-biker-gang-brawl/

Tdlr, the gang fight will continue and grow in size and scope.

While I usually don't support the militarization of the police, as this situation gets worse, I understand the reason it happens.

Odd balance isn't it?

We see the rationality on why the police needs to be more powerful, but then we see things like Ferguson happen because the police is too powerful.

Where do we strike the balance between a police strong enough to keep people safe from organized crime and gang violence, but safe enough so that they don't kill unarmed innocent people?

The problem I Ferguson is not the militarization of the cops. But basically your right, and I have no idea how to find that balance.

[The United Remnants of America]

Ban bikers. Then there would be no more of this nonsense.

That's nonsense.

We could get them to volunteer to go fight in Syria?

And you can't call that idea nonsense, since it has precedent.

[Napkiraly]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/us/texas-biker-gang-brawl/

Tdlr, the gang fight will continue and grow in size and scope.

While I usually don't support the militarization of the police, as this situation gets worse, I understand the reason it happens.

Not surprising. In the past two major biker wars in the past twenty odd years, the killings lasted for a long time as well.

[Ethel mermania]

Odd balance isn't it?

We see the rationality on why the police needs to be more powerful, but then we see things like Ferguson happen because the police is too powerful.

Where do we strike the balance between a police strong enough to keep people safe from organized crime and gang violence, but safe enough so that they don't kill unarmed innocent people?

Ferguson wasn't the result of militarised police, it just inflamed tensions once the initial event occurred.
Of course, it officers were better trained and didn't think to solely rely on their firearms for compliance and control, then the issues of militarised police in the Ferguson demonstrations would never have been apparent.

Monumental claptrap.

[Imperializt Russia]

Ferguson wasn't the result of militarised police, it just inflamed tensions once the initial event occurred.
Of course, it officers were better trained and didn't think to solely rely on their firearms for compliance and control, then the issues of militarised police in the Ferguson demonstrations would never have been apparent.

Monumental claptrap.

Cute.

You see, when you challenge "there is no obligation to provide certain elements in company health insurance", that is claptrap because federal law says otherwise. The religious exemption law apparently does validate your statement, but the law makes no sense.

Now, I'd like you to point out what, if anything, I just said was "monumental claptrap" or are you just trying to be cutesy?

[Ethel mermania]

Monumental claptrap.

Cute.

You see, when you challenge "there is no obligation to provide certain elements in company health insurance", that is claptrap because federal law says otherwise. The religious exemption law apparently does validate your statement, but the law makes no sense.

Now, I'd like you to point out what, if anything, I just said was "monumental claptrap" or are you just trying to be cutesy?

All of it.

[Imperializt Russia]

Cute.

You see, when you challenge "there is no obligation to provide certain elements in company health insurance", that is claptrap because federal law says otherwise. The religious exemption law apparently does validate your statement, but the law makes no sense.

Now, I'd like you to point out what, if anything, I just said was "monumental claptrap" or are you just trying to be cutesy?

All of it.

That's not an argument, that's you saying words.

Being cute.

Try harder pl0x.

[Naushantiya]

Thank god Biker gangs over here just want to ride to Bhutan, Nepal and Khardung la or just ride rough himalayan roads. I am a part of a biker gang and almost everybody here is either a software engineer with a bullet or just some random dude who owns a bullet, I never can possibly correlate biking with criminality as many people here are doing. This is just fucking silly

I don't even think that Biker gangs will allow you drive if your drunk, most people are either retd serving army officers, software engineers, students, sometimes we have tourists ( altough we have adopted a no foreigner policy but the nice foreigners are allowed). So basically as usual Nsg has got it all wrong, it is nothing surprising. If a criminal rides a motorcycle then it is a biker gang, would the same logic apply to a group of people driving in cars ? Would you call them a car gang ? this has just taken stupid to the newest possible level

They ride bikes.

They're a gang.

Biker... gang. Biker gang.

See, over here in the land of 'Murica, we have to come up with some way to differentiate your average run-of-the-mill street gang thugs with your Harley-riding thugs. Hence why they're called a biker gang. Your "biker gang" is a motorcycle club. An actual motorcycle club, too, since biker gangs here try to legitimize themselves by saying they're motorcycle clubs.

And yes. If a group of criminals got organized, became a gang, and became known for driving cars. They'd become a car gangs. The Japanese actually have car gangs. They're called Bozozoku(Spelling may be off), which is, I'm guessing,r Japanese for "Car Gang."

So I'm not seeing your point here with any of this.

This is just ridiculous, why would any smart criminal ever identify himself with a motorcycle and make his criminality obvious ? There is something bizzare about this

[The United Remnants of America]

They ride bikes.

They're a gang.

Biker... gang. Biker gang.

See, over here in the land of 'Murica, we have to come up with some way to differentiate your average run-of-the-mill street gang thugs with your Harley-riding thugs. Hence why they're called a biker gang. Your "biker gang" is a motorcycle club. An actual motorcycle club, too, since biker gangs here try to legitimize themselves by saying they're motorcycle clubs.

And yes. If a group of criminals got organized, became a gang, and became known for driving cars. They'd become a car gangs. The Japanese actually have car gangs. They're called Bozozoku(Spelling may be off), which is, I'm guessing,r Japanese for "Car Gang."

So I'm not seeing your point here with any of this.

This is just ridiculous, why would any smart criminal ever identify himself with a motorcycle and make his criminality obvious ? There is something bizzare about this

I'm sensing sarcasm.

[Imperializt Russia]

They ride bikes.

They're a gang.

Biker... gang. Biker gang.

See, over here in the land of 'Murica, we have to come up with some way to differentiate your average run-of-the-mill street gang thugs with your Harley-riding thugs. Hence why they're called a biker gang. Your "biker gang" is a motorcycle club. An actual motorcycle club, too, since biker gangs here try to legitimize themselves by saying they're motorcycle clubs.

And yes. If a group of criminals got organized, became a gang, and became known for driving cars. They'd become a car gangs. The Japanese actually have car gangs. They're called Bozozoku(Spelling may be off), which is, I'm guessing,r Japanese for "Car Gang."

So I'm not seeing your point here with any of this.

This is just ridiculous, why would any smart criminal ever identify himself with a motorcycle and make his criminality obvious ? There is something bizzare about this

Why did the SA run around in uniforms before the Nazis got into power?
Why do the Crips and the Bloods wear gang colours?

[Napkiraly]

This is just ridiculous, why would any smart criminal ever identify himself with a motorcycle and make his criminality obvious ? There is something bizzare about this

Why did the SA run around in uniforms before the Nazis got into power?
Why do the Crips and the Bloods wear gang colours?

Tbf the Bloods and Crips have started wearing less obvious attire as a result of police pressure. Still prevalent enough though that probably not the best idea to go walking through eithers area wearing the others colours.