Biker gang shootout...

[The United Remnants of America]

Including ones that murder each other parking spaces?


They're still better than the police, right?

(even though the police are also human beings too)

I am well aware that 1% bikers can be evil. What's wrong is saying that the government isn't and one evil can limit the excessive powers of another one. I am interested in creating and maintaining a better society for people to live in.

How is fueling an eternal conflict between organized crime and organized government a better society to live in?

[Laanvia]

Not Waco again...

When i heard the word "Waco" on the news i thought there'd been another Branch Davidian style siege...

[Spirit of Hope]

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/crime/us-biker-shootout-192-face-charges/ar-BBjURcX?ocid=mailsignoutmd

So basically a whole bunch of biker gang thugs decided to shoot at each other in a crowded shopping centre with innocent civilians around.

I hope the surviving participants are never let out of prison. If we can't stamp out gang activity, the least we can do is give them some incentive to settle their feuds elsewhere.

So much for "an armed society is a polite society"...

Why yes let us look to the violent criminal organizations as evidence of how society works. Truly they are average citizens, and this incident reflects deeply on American culture. It is not at all like this situation could have been easily avoided by restaurant management working to keep the two different violent organizations separate.

I'm a friend of human beings.

I kind of like my free education, roads, healthcare, defense, laws, water, power, safe air travel, etc. that the state provides. I don't like organizations that kill me without letting me say anything as the rule, rather than the exception.

[Valaran]

Including ones that murder each other parking spaces?


They're still better than the police, right?

(even though the police are also human beings too)

I am well aware that 1% bikers can be evil. What's wrong is saying that the government isn't and one evil can limit the excessive powers of another one. I am interested in creating and maintaining a better society for people to live in.

Limit it by spraying each other with bullets over parking spaces, as opposed to elections.

Do you really think they are limiting each other's evils? The crips and bloods copied each other on drug selling practices, and apparently so did some of the biker gangs involved in this shooting.

Bikers are fine. But saying armed groups and no government somehow promote a better and more peaceful society does not add up.

[Dyakovo]

So much for "an armed society is a polite society"...

Why yes let us look to the violent criminal organizations as evidence of how society works. Truly they are average citizens, and this incident reflects deeply on American culture. It is not at all like this situation could have been easily avoided by restaurant management working to keep the two different violent organizations separate.

Right, they're "violent criminal organizations outside of society" but restaurant management could have "easily avoided" this situation...
Do you think about what you write?

[Yuketobaniac]

kinda like arabs killing arabs, racism not intended

If the racism wasn't intended, why bother drawing the comparison? Your post had literally no other content or substance.
The implication in either case is clearly your implicit support because a group of people lost some of its number from internal violence.

thank you

[Ifreann]

People who commit or who have committed crimes.

Duh.

So basically everyone on planet earth?

Quite possibly, though most people would exclude lesser crimes like parking offences or public urination or pirating music.

[New Skaaneland]

The police wouldn't.

[The United Remnants of America]

So basically everyone on planet earth?

Quite possibly, though most people would exclude lesser crimes like parking offences or public urination or pirating music.

I think that's because misdemeanors aren't actually crimes. They're misdemeanors.

[Dyakovo]

Quite possibly, though most people would exclude lesser crimes like parking offences or public urination or pirating music.

I think that's because misdemeanors aren't actually crimes. They're misdemeanors.

Uh... No. Misdemeanors are most certainly crimes. A crime is any act that is prohibited by criminal law. A misdemeanor is one classification of criminal law.

[The United Remnants of America]

I think that's because misdemeanors aren't actually crimes. They're misdemeanors.

Uh... No. Misdemeanors are most certainly crimes. A crime is any act that is prohibited by criminal law. A misdemeanor is one classification of criminal law.

Eh, yeah. I equated "crime" with "felony," sorry.

[New Skaaneland]

There are also laws against doing nothing wrong at all. I once apealed a football ban carried out by the police via prosecutor to court, where they came to the conclusion that I wasn't suspected of doing anything illegal. Guilty!

[Ifreann]

The police wouldn't.

I suppose.

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There are also laws against doing nothing wrong at all. I once apealed a football ban carried out by the police via prosecutor to court, where they came to the conclusion that I wasn't suspected of doing anything illegal. Guilty!

I suspect this conclusion was in error.

[Spirit of Hope]

Why yes let us look to the violent criminal organizations as evidence of how society works. Truly they are average citizens, and this incident reflects deeply on American culture. It is not at all like this situation could have been easily avoided by restaurant management working to keep the two different violent organizations separate.

Right, they're "violent criminal organizations outside of society" but restaurant management could have "easily avoided" this situation...
Do you think about what you write?

Yes I do. You see the resteraunt hosted an event, which police warned them would lead to the rival biker gangs meeting. Police requested the resteraunt canncel or move events so the Ganga would not meet at the resteraunt. Management, both locally and apparently nationaly refused. So yes this event could have been avoided if management had listened to the police and worked to keep the rival gangs seperate.

[New Skaaneland]

No, the conclusion was correct. I wasn't suspected of any crimes, but the court considered it possible that I could commit crimes or somehow just cause a fuss (without breaking any laws) in the future, so they chose not to tear up the ban. That decision has also spawned other ridiculous judgements against me since it has been used to critisise my so called "troublesome background", which to be quite exact consists of crossing the street prior to a football game.

[The United Remnants of America]

Right, they're "violent criminal organizations outside of society" but restaurant management could have "easily avoided" this situation...
Do you think about what you write?

Yes I do. You see the resteraunt hosted an event, which police warned them would lead to the rival biker gangs meeting. Police requested the resteraunt canncel or move events so the Ganga would not meet at the resteraunt. Management, both locally and apparently nationaly refused. So yes this event could have been avoided if management had listened to the police and worked to keep the rival gangs seperate.

It was only locally. It was a franchise.

Twin Peaks pulled the franchise after the incident.

[Naushantiya]

This is just ridiculous, why would any smart criminal ever identify himself with a motorcycle and make his criminality obvious ? There is something bizzare about this

I'm sensing sarcasm.

You should be sensing the bizzareness and the weirdness of this whole thing, I actually find this hilarious that a bunch of criminals go around riding motorcycles, it seems almost funny in an unexplainable way

[New Skaaneland]

It's a symbol of cultural identity. I'm not a biker myself, but such things are important.

[Geilinor]

It's a symbol of cultural identity. I'm not a biker myself, but such things are important.

Some people might like biker groups, but I'm not too concerned either way, except in the case that crimes are committed.

[Gauthier]

I am well aware that 1% bikers can be evil. What's wrong is saying that the government isn't and one evil can limit the excessive powers of another one. I am interested in creating and maintaining a better society for people to live in.

How is fueling an eternal conflict between organized crime and organized government a better society to live in?

The ancient principle of Somebody Else's Problem.

As long as people or things you give a shit about aren't affected, Fuck 'Em.

[The Two Jerseys]

Where's Judge Roy Bean when you need him?

[Abruzzo Romano]

Zero white people crying over the bikers shot by the cops in Waco. No hashtags, no riots, no looting. That's the difference. Where are the flash mobs, where are the white community leaders? See, we don't aid and abet these thugs, we know they're pieces of s**t.

[Napkiraly]

Zero white people crying over the bikers shot by the cops in Waco. No hashtags, no riots, no looting. That's the difference. Where are the flash mobs, where are the white community leaders? See, we don't aid and abet these thugs, we know they're pieces of s**t.

Remind me again how Freddie Gray was killed in a gangland shootout. Oh wait that's right he wasn't. He was killed as a result of Baltimore police officers purposefully endangering his life through a rough ride. Man maybe that's the actual difference. Who wudda thunk it.

[Organized States]

I was actually passing through and stopped at Central Texas Marketplace the day before.

The rest of the place was quite reputable, but this Twin Peaks was a little on the shady side, even from the outside. And well, now, we kind of see that.

[Napkiraly]

I was actually passing through and stopped at Central Texas Marketplace the day before.

The rest of the place was quite reputable, but this Twin Peaks was a little on the shady side, even from the outside. And well, now, we kind of see that.

Twin Peaks Bugerport. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.