Debate Teams?

[Buffett and Colbert]

Oh yeah, I was once a part of a Model UN. It was insane; it's like, one day the English and French represtatives got up and had a fistfight over the issue of female genital mutilation. And me, being none other than Libya, had the 'Great Socialist Sharia Resolution' passed which basically put a mangled version of socialism and Islam into international practice, so everybody greeted each other with "Saalam, Socialist Comrade" and wore these strange black robes and dishdashas for a month. The only person who refused was America - the only person who took it seriously - whom the world unanimously declared The Great Satan.

Afterwards, America proposed that Russia be condemned for the war with Georgia, and everybody else asked why the U.S. State of Georgia had a military. I then proposed a resolution which saw Somalia made a protectorate of Luxembourg.

Of course we were shut down after a couple of months. But still, good times.

[Buffett and Colbert]

To those who regularly go to debate clubs/groups, how far do you go where notes are concerned? I mean, do you just have cue-cards or do you have a gargantuan dossier?

At my uni Afghanistan debate I found that having about 5 pages of quotes/counter-arguments etc were more than enough for the 20 minute debate, although a significant amount of those 20 minutes were spent by my lecturer (taking the role of the chair/judge) asking the audience's opinion on what we had previously said.

Psssh, five pages. REAL debaters have no less then four tubs!

No, seriously, we have tubs of evidence, and we use pretty much all of it at least once.

I've seen those things and I think that's just crazy and unnecessary. It would make organisation a nightmare and bring all sorts of complications. But then again, I would be saying this because MUN, unlike debate, is more about presenting YOUR ideas and adapting to crises, instead of advocating a more or less existing one (I don't know too much about the debate club, though).

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

To those who regularly go to debate clubs/groups, how far do you go where notes are concerned? I mean, do you just have cue-cards or do you have a gargantuan dossier?

At my uni Afghanistan debate I found that having about 5 pages of quotes/counter-arguments etc were more than enough for the 20 minute debate, although a significant amount of those 20 minutes were spent by my lecturer (taking the role of the chair/judge) asking the audience's opinion on what we had previously said.

Psssh, five pages. REAL debaters have no less then four tubs!

No, seriously, we have tubs of evidence, and we use pretty much all of it at least once.

I've seen you people. You motherfuckers are crazy.

[Mirnect]

Oh yeah, I was once a part of a Model UN. It was insane; it's like, one day the English and French represtatives got up and had a fistfight over the issue of female genital mutilation. And me, being none other than Libya, had the 'Great Socialist Sharia Resolution' passed which basically put a mangled version of socialism and Islam into international practice, so everybody greeted each other with "Saalam, Socialist Comrade" and wore these strange black robes and dishdashas for a month. The only person who refused was America - the only person who took it seriously - whom the world unanimously declared The Great Satan.

Afterwards, America proposed that Russia be condemned for the war with Georgia, and everybody else asked why the U.S. State of Georgia had a military. I then proposed a resolution which saw Somalia made a protectorate of Luxembourg.

Of course we were shut down after a couple of months. But still, good times.

We basically violated continuity with Great Socialist Sharia, so we more or less had a right to create our own alternate universe.

[The High Lizzleness]

For Mock Trial, witnesses have their story and the storyline in general memorized, and each lawyer knows two stories very well.

The lawyers have opening statements, the affidavits of witnesses, questions to ask, and pieces of evidence, plus whatever they bring.

We all get legal pads at the beginning of the year, and Friday we got ours. We all get very excited.

[Parina]

To those who regularly go to debate clubs/groups, how far do you go where notes are concerned? I mean, do you just have cue-cards or do you have a gargantuan dossier?

At my uni Afghanistan debate I found that having about 5 pages of quotes/counter-arguments etc were more than enough for the 20 minute debate, although a significant amount of those 20 minutes were spent by my lecturer (taking the role of the chair/judge) asking the audience's opinion on what we had previously said.

Psssh, five pages. REAL debaters have no less then four tubs!

No, seriously, we have tubs of evidence, and we use pretty much all of it at least once.

I've seen you people. You motherfuckers are crazy.

Damn right we are!

I've seen those things and I think that's just crazy and unnecessary. It would make organisation a nightmare and bring all sorts of complications. But then again, I would be saying this because MUN, unlike debate, is more about presenting YOUR ideas and adapting to crises, instead of advocating a more or less existing one (I don't know too much about the debate club, though).

Oh yah, it's impossible to be organized. But hey, the fun of debating isn't the debating: it's the fun we have on tournaments outside of the debates.

[Buffett and Colbert]

For Mock Trial, witnesses have their story and the storyline in general memorized, and each lawyer knows two stories very well.

The lawyers have opening statements, the affidavits of witnesses, questions to ask, and pieces of evidence, plus whatever they bring.

We all get legal pads at the beginning of the year, and Friday we got ours. We all get very excited.

That sounds neat. MY NAIMUN committee actually is a court-martial. But we're still using parliamentary procedure.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

One day the English and French represtatives got up and had a fistfight over the issue of female genital mutilation.

.... ....

What have they got to argue about...lol.

[The High Lizzleness]

For Mock Trial, witnesses have their story and the storyline in general memorized, and each lawyer knows two stories very well.

The lawyers have opening statements, the affidavits of witnesses, questions to ask, and pieces of evidence, plus whatever they bring.

We all get legal pads at the beginning of the year, and Friday we got ours. We all get very excited.

That sounds neat. MY NAIMUN committee actually is a court-martial. But we're still using parliamentary procedure.

Yeah, it's pretty epic. Mock Trial is one of my favorite activities. It gets intense.

[SD_Film Artists]

To those who regularly go to debate clubs/groups, how far do you go where notes are concerned? I mean, do you just have cue-cards or do you have a gargantuan dossier?

I tend to print the majority of my research and highlight it using an extremely intricate system I've developed (people tell me that the level of detail to my system is insane, but hey, it works). I always carry a legal pad and pen to committees to take notes during committee and put down main points for what I'm going to say.

At my uni Afghanistan debate I found that having about 5 pages of quotes/counter-arguments etc were more than enough for the 20 minute debate, although a significant amount of those 20 minutes were spent by my lecturer (taking the role of the chair/judge) asking the audience's opinion on what we said.

For a 20 minute debate I'm sure that's plenty.

Indeed it was plenty. Infact I had so much of my intricate notes left unused that I almost felt a bit conned (I expected the debate to be longer). But hey, we won, so at least it wasn't for nothing .

I'd have it in size 14 or 16 font so that it's small enough to keep to a small amount of papers yet large enough so that I wouldn't have to be searching for the specific quote with nervous squinting eyes whilst I should be talking. And to make note scanning even quicker I'd have some critical points in bold text.

With my highlighting system, I'm pretty much fine in that area. I use a number of really weird tricks to lessen the amount of paper and ink I use, though.

Interesting. Does that help in the debate or are you just really really tight? XD

[SD_Film Artists]

I've seen those things and I think that's just crazy and unnecessary. It would make organisation a nightmare and bring all sorts of complications. But then again, I would be saying this because MUN, unlike debate, is more about presenting YOUR ideas and adapting to crises, instead of advocating a more or less existing one (I don't know too much about the debate club, though).

Oh yah, it's impossible to be organized. But hey, the fun of debating isn't the debating: it's the fun we have on tournaments outside of the debates.

Either that or the fun of slamming down your excessively large stack of evidence, and table-tapping your papers more times than a news anchor.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Indeed it was plenty. Infact I had so much of my intricate notes left unused that I almost felt a bit conned (I expected the debate to be longer). But hey, we won, so at least it wasn't for nothing .

Winning is nice.

Interesting. Does that help in the debate or are you just really really tight? XD

Hey, if you only have a certain amount of resources... It helps making the margins barely distinguishable and the font size 10...

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

To me, the fun wasn't the actual debates, but the extraneous stuff.

Examples:

-Playing strip poker on the campus of Cal State Long Beach (fat guy taking off his shirt killed the game, lol)
-Having a faux-shootout with cap guns purchased at a flea market at Cypress College
-Randomly calling a guy that happened to be having an orgy in his house at the time on the parking lot of Cal State Long Beach.

CSULB also had/has a Boar's Head, which is win.

[Linux and the X]

Also, in a couple of weeks, my Model United Nations team and I are going to DC to take part in the NAIMUN (North American Invitational Model United Nations) conference. Have any of you gone to such conferences? And out of curiosity... is there anyone going to NAIMUN? o.0

No, my school's too small. We do have a regional MUN conference (which I really should work on my position papers for) in a couple of weeks.

[Lazuril]

I don't like debates because scoring points is the goal of debating, rather than getting to the truth.

I agree, debating is about poking a hole in the other person's points, MUN however is about sharing views and coming up together with something better.

Oh yeah, I was once a part of a Model UN. It was insane; it's like, one day the English and French represtatives got up and had a fistfight over the issue of female genital mutilation. And me, being none other than Libya, had the 'Great Socialist Sharia Resolution' passed which basically put a mangled version of socialism and Islam into international practice, so everybody greeted each other with "Saalam, Socialist Comrade" and wore these strange black robes and dishdashas for a month. The only person who refused was America - the only person who took it seriously - whom the world unanimously declared The Great Satan.

Afterwards, America proposed that Russia be condemned for the war with Georgia, and everybody else asked why the U.S. State of Georgia had a military. I then proposed a resolution which saw Somalia made a protectorate of Luxembourg.

Of course we were shut down after a couple of months. But still, good times.

Win

A similar thing happened to me last Tuesday when I had MUN practice. We were on a resolution about ending forced labor, and then some guy came up and proposed an amendment that public schooling counted as 'forced labor'. The amendment passed

[Linux and the X]

I don't like debates because scoring points is the goal of debating, rather than getting to the truth.

I agree, debating is about poking a hole in the other person's points, MUN however is about sharing views and coming up together with something better.

Oh yeah, I was once a part of a Model UN. It was insane; it's like, one day the English and French represtatives got up and had a fistfight over the issue of female genital mutilation. And me, being none other than Libya, had the 'Great Socialist Sharia Resolution' passed which basically put a mangled version of socialism and Islam into international practice, so everybody greeted each other with "Saalam, Socialist Comrade" and wore these strange black robes and dishdashas for a month. The only person who refused was America - the only person who took it seriously - whom the world unanimously declared The Great Satan.

Afterwards, America proposed that Russia be condemned for the war with Georgia, and everybody else asked why the U.S. State of Georgia had a military. I then proposed a resolution which saw Somalia made a protectorate of Luxembourg.

Of course we were shut down after a couple of months. But still, good times.

Win

A similar thing happened to me last Tuesday when I had MUN practice. We were on a resolution about ending forced labor, and then some guy came up and proposed an amendment that public schooling counted as 'forced labor'. The amendment passed

WTF? How do you people get conferences like that? Every conference I've been do enforced decorum and following the positions of your country! I printed four hundred pages of research last Thursday for it, too.

[Blitzkrenia]

No. I do often argue with myself, though. That would explain the straitjacket I'm wearing.

[The High Lizzleness]

No. I do often argue with myself, though. That would explain the straitjacket I'm wearing.

Oooh, that's fun, too. I find it's better to avoid the men in white coats when they come bearing awkward clothes... It makes it difficult to type when they put it on.

[Blitzkrenia]

No. I do often argue with myself, though. That would explain the straitjacket I'm wearing.

Oooh, that's fun, too. I find it's better to avoid the men in white coats when they come bearing awkward clothes... It makes it difficult to type when they put it on.

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa.
They're coming to take me away, ho ho, he he, ha ha,
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young
Men in their clean white coats and
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!

To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!

[The High Lizzleness]

No. I do often argue with myself, though. That would explain the straitjacket I'm wearing.

Oooh, that's fun, too. I find it's better to avoid the men in white coats when they come bearing awkward clothes... It makes it difficult to type when they put it on.

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa.
They're coming to take me away, ho ho, he he, ha ha,
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young
Men in their clean white coats and
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!

To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!

Pretty song. Original composition?

[Blitzkrenia]

No. I do often argue with myself, though. That would explain the straitjacket I'm wearing.

Oooh, that's fun, too. I find it's better to avoid the men in white coats when they come bearing awkward clothes... It makes it difficult to type when they put it on.

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa.
They're coming to take me away, ho ho, he he, ha ha,
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young
Men in their clean white coats and
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!

To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!

Pretty song. Original composition?

No. It's They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa! by Napoleon XIV. Good song.

[The High Lizzleness]

No. I do often argue with myself, though. That would explain the straitjacket I'm wearing.

Oooh, that's fun, too. I find it's better to avoid the men in white coats when they come bearing awkward clothes... It makes it difficult to type when they put it on.

They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa.
They're coming to take me away, ho ho, he he, ha ha,
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young
Men in their clean white coats and
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!

To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!

Pretty song. Original composition?

No. It's They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa! by Napoleon XIV. Good song.

Nice. Still I don't like those men. They're quite mean, sometimes.

[Buffett and Colbert]

I don't like debates because scoring points is the goal of debating, rather than getting to the truth.

I agree, debating is about poking a hole in the other person's points, MUN however is about sharing views and coming up together with something better.

Oh yeah, I was once a part of a Model UN. It was insane; it's like, one day the English and French represtatives got up and had a fistfight over the issue of female genital mutilation. And me, being none other than Libya, had the 'Great Socialist Sharia Resolution' passed which basically put a mangled version of socialism and Islam into international practice, so everybody greeted each other with "Saalam, Socialist Comrade" and wore these strange black robes and dishdashas for a month. The only person who refused was America - the only person who took it seriously - whom the world unanimously declared The Great Satan.

Afterwards, America proposed that Russia be condemned for the war with Georgia, and everybody else asked why the U.S. State of Georgia had a military. I then proposed a resolution which saw Somalia made a protectorate of Luxembourg.

Of course we were shut down after a couple of months. But still, good times.

Win

A similar thing happened to me last Tuesday when I had MUN practice. We were on a resolution about ending forced labor, and then some guy came up and proposed an amendment that public schooling counted as 'forced labor'. The amendment passed

WTF? How do you people get conferences like that? Every conference I've been do enforced decorum and following the positions of your country! I printed four hundred pages of research last Thursday for it, too.

Lol, dude. Too much info. Remember, what's more important are your ideas, not the research. And besides, there HAS to be chairs in your area that are lenient every now and then!

[SaintB]

I was on an academic team, similar but different.

[Linux and the X]

I don't like debates because scoring points is the goal of debating, rather than getting to the truth.

I agree, debating is about poking a hole in the other person's points, MUN however is about sharing views and coming up together with something better.

Oh yeah, I was once a part of a Model UN. It was insane; it's like, one day the English and French represtatives got up and had a fistfight over the issue of female genital mutilation. And me, being none other than Libya, had the 'Great Socialist Sharia Resolution' passed which basically put a mangled version of socialism and Islam into international practice, so everybody greeted each other with "Saalam, Socialist Comrade" and wore these strange black robes and dishdashas for a month. The only person who refused was America - the only person who took it seriously - whom the world unanimously declared The Great Satan.

Afterwards, America proposed that Russia be condemned for the war with Georgia, and everybody else asked why the U.S. State of Georgia had a military. I then proposed a resolution which saw Somalia made a protectorate of Luxembourg.

Of course we were shut down after a couple of months. But still, good times.

Win

A similar thing happened to me last Tuesday when I had MUN practice. We were on a resolution about ending forced labor, and then some guy came up and proposed an amendment that public schooling counted as 'forced labor'. The amendment passed

WTF? How do you people get conferences like that? Every conference I've been do enforced decorum and following the positions of your country! I printed four hundred pages of research last Thursday for it, too.

Lol, dude. Too much info. Remember, what's more important are your ideas, not the research. And besides, there HAS to be chairs in your area that are lenient every now and then!

Well, I was printing for everyone. And no. The most I've gotten away with was wearing something reasonable rather than a vice and noose.