South Carolina school dislikes America

[Eastern Equestria]

at least I'm not gullible to believe the schools excuse for this unlike you

And yet you accept the student's word without question.

I for one don't accept his word without question. If it should turn out that he lied in order to stir up some patriotic furor, then I'd call him out for being full of shit. But it seems more likely to me that the school either miscommunicated their true intentions to the student or that they indeed told him to take the flag down in the name of so called political correctness. If the school's rationale had been public safety from the start, then why did they back down from that ironclad defense so quickly? I know we (rightfully) like to mock Southerners for their often prejudiced and backwards mindsets. But surely you wouldn't argue that they're so stupid that the one in question wouldn't have complied if it were rationally explained to him that his flag had to be removed for reasons solely having to do with safety, would you?

[Salandriagado]

And yet you accept the student's word without question.

So I'm just supposed to sit back and let a school official remove my property from being on display on my vehicle and not do anything. Don't be so stupid I'd back the kid anyway over the school.

If it's dangerous, yes, you are. Alternatively, file a complaint through the established procedure.

And yet you accept the student's word without question.

I for one don't accept his word without question. If it should turn out that he lied in order to stir up some patriotic furor, then I'd call him out for being full of shit. But it seems more likely to me that the school either miscommunicated their true intentions to the student or that they indeed told him to take the flag down in the name of so called political correctness. If the school's rationale had been public safety from the start, then why did they back down from that ironclad defense so quickly? I know we (rightfully) like to mock Southerners for their often prejudiced and backwards mindsets. But surely you wouldn't argue that they're so stupid that the one in question wouldn't have complied if it were rationally explained to him that his flag had to be removed for reasons solely having to do with safety, would you?

How (or indeed, if) it was explained to him, why the decision was made, and what he thought they meant are three very different things.

[The Two Jerseys]

So I'm just supposed to sit back and let a school official remove my property from being on display on my vehicle and not do anything. Don't be so stupid I'd back the kid anyway over the school.

If it's dangerous, yes, you are. Alternatively, file a complaint through the established procedure.

It's not the school's place to decide if an automotive accessory is dangerous.

[Dyakovo]

Yes, the kid claims that that is the reasoning provided. I don't believe him.

Why not? If the school had initially told him that his flags were a safety concern, rather than a political one, then I doubt he and the SC community would have objected in the manner they did.

I don't. In any case, if his current story is true, why does it differ from the original public complaint he made on instagram?

[Dyakovo]

If it's dangerous, yes, you are. Alternatively, file a complaint through the established procedure.

It's not the school's place to decide if an automotive accessory is dangerous.

On their property it is.

[Wallenburg]

If it's dangerous, yes, you are. Alternatively, file a complaint through the established procedure.

It's not the school's place to decide if an automotive accessory is dangerous.

:headdesk:

[Prussia-Steinbach]

It's not the school's place to decide if an automotive accessory is dangerous.

:headdesk:

*mounts miniguns to hood*

u dnt hav the rite, ya commie fascist sch00l ppl

[Eastern Equestria]

I for one don't accept his word without question. If it should turn out that he lied in order to stir up some patriotic furor, then I'd call him out for being full of shit. But it seems more likely to me that the school either miscommunicated their true intentions to the student or that they indeed told him to take the flag down in the name of so called political correctness. If the school's rationale had been public safety from the start, then why did they back down from that ironclad defense so quickly? I know we (rightfully) like to mock Southerners for their often prejudiced and backwards mindsets. But surely you wouldn't argue that they're so stupid that the one in question wouldn't have complied if it were rationally explained to him that his flag had to be removed for reasons solely having to do with safety, would you?

How (or indeed, if) it was explained to him, why the decision was made, and what he thought they meant are three very different things.

Yes, but the three things are inextricably linked. Assuming that the school originally took down his flag in order to protect the safety of other drivers, they either chose not to make that explicit to him, he's so dense that he didn't get the message, or he's been lying about it. In my opinion it'd be unfair to sit in the camp that automatically questions his intelligence or honesty.

Why not? If the school had initially told him that his flags were a safety concern, rather than a political one, then I doubt he and the SC community would have objected in the manner they did.

I don't. In any case, if his current story is true, why does it differ from the original public complaint he made on instagram?

Do you have a link to his original Instagram complaint?

[Dyakovo]

I don't. In any case, if his current story is true, why does it differ from the original public complaint he made on instagram?

Do you have a link to his original Instagram complaint?

Yes.

[The Two Jerseys]

It's not the school's place to decide if an automotive accessory is dangerous.

On their property it is.

My truck doesn't have a center brake light. Can they ban me from school property?

[Dyakovo]

On their property it is.

My truck doesn't have a center brake light. Can they ban me from school property?

If they have a policy in place requiring that all vehicles on their property must have one, yes, they can prohibit you from bringing your vehicle onto school grounds...
Of course, no school would have such a policy as it would ban school buses from the property as well...

[Wallenburg]

On their property it is.

My truck doesn't have a center brake light. Can they ban me from school property?

Definitely during darker times of day.

[The Two Jerseys]

My truck doesn't have a center brake light. Can they ban me from school property?

If they have a policy in place requiring that all vehicles on their property must have one, yes, they can prohibit you from bringing your vehicle onto school grounds...
Of course, no school would have such a policy as it would ban school buses from the property as well...

My truck complies with USDOT lighting regulations for the year of manufacture. The school can go fuck off.

[Dyakovo]

If they have a policy in place requiring that all vehicles on their property must have one, yes, they can prohibit you from bringing your vehicle onto school grounds...
Of course, no school would have such a policy as it would ban school buses from the property as well...

My truck complies with USDOT lighting regulations for the year of manufacture. The school can go fuck off.

Apparently you didn't read the second sentence.

[The Two Jerseys]

My truck complies with USDOT lighting regulations for the year of manufacture. The school can go fuck off.

Apparently you didn't read the second sentence.

I did.

The point is, the school can't override state and federal motor vehicle laws.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Americans are really passionate about their flag. Just because you take down the flag doesn't mean you hate the entire country.

As a Belgian I don't really understand it, but whatevs.

I don't understand it either, especially since the reason for taking it down had nothing to do with the fact it was a US flag.

[Eastern Equestria]

Do you have a link to his original Instagram complaint?

Yes.

Huh. Making no mention of what the complaints that led to his flag being taken down were actually about looks odd. This certainly leaves up a lot up to interpretation.

[Dyakovo]

Apparently you didn't read the second sentence.

I did.

The point is, the school can't override state and federal motor vehicle laws.

Ummm.... Yeah, they really can (assuming that by "override" you actually mean "have stricter rules"). They can't allow things which would be illegal under state and federal law (this, BTW, would be what "override" actually means in context), but they can certainly disallow things which are legal.

[Gig em Aggies]

It's not the school's place to decide if an automotive accessory is dangerous.

On their property it is.

Actually no they CANT "I capitalized it in case you couldn't see it" schools can not touch your vehicle or remove property without your consent or the consent of the vehicle owner(s) or the police if need be.
Example I am parked in a parking lot of your business just because I'm in the parking lot does not grant you the right to touch, remove, or search my vehicle without my permission period. Same goes for the school they can't do that oh wait your living in fantasy land. And yes I am being an asshole.

[Dyakovo]

Yes.

Huh. Making no mention of what the complaints that led to his flag being taken down were actually about looks odd. This certainly leaves up a lot up to interpretation.

And this is why I don't believe the spin he later put on it.
Now, admittedly, it is possible that he merely omitted mentioning the specifics of what the complaints were, but I don't think that this is the case since the instagram version matches the school's version of what happened.

[Dalcaria]

I'm just kind of curious if the school would have had the same response if he had a rainbow flag on instead. I'm not trying to attack anyone by saying that, but if they wouldn't have treated that situation the same, then it's clearly politically motivated, in which case I would say they have zero right to enforce that on him. I may not agree with whatever his political beliefs may be, but that doesn't mean I should get unnecessarily offended over them (unless he's a bigot. That's a different story).

[Dyakovo]

On their property it is.

Actually no they CANT CAN'T "I capitalized it in case you couldn't see it" schools can not touch your vehicle or remove property without your consent or the consent of the vehicle owner(s) or the police if need be.
Example I am parked in a parking lot of your business just because I'm in the parking lot does not grant you the right to touch, remove, or search my vehicle without my permission period. Same goes for the school they can't do that oh wait your living in fantasy land. And yes I am being an asshole.

Where did I say they could?

[Gig em Aggies]

I did.

The point is, the school can't override state and federal motor vehicle laws.

Ummm.... Yeah, they really can (assuming that by "override" you actually mean "have stricter rules"). They can't allow things which would be illegal under state and federal law (this, BTW, would be what "override" actually means in context), but they can certainly disallow things which are legal.

Um no if their is a problem with something on a vehicle in the parking lot then call the police school officials don't enforce motor vehicle laws. No school enforces motor vehicle laws, the only thing they require close to a motor vehicle law is that you have a proper parking pass that's it other then that leave it to the police to deal with.

[Gig em Aggies]

Actually no they CANT CAN'T "I capitalized it in case you couldn't see it" schools can not touch your vehicle or remove property without your consent or the consent of the vehicle owner(s) or the police if need be.
Example I am parked in a parking lot of your business just because I'm in the parking lot does not grant you the right to touch, remove, or search my vehicle without my permission period. Same goes for the school they can't do that oh wait your living in fantasy land. And yes I am being an asshole.

Where did I say they could?

You keep thinking just because the kid was on school property that the school had the right to remove the flag from his vehicle which they don't.

[Dyakovo]

Where did I say they could?

You keep thinking just because the kid was on school property that the school had the right to remove the flag from his vehicle which they don't.

You're a mind reader now? Quote me saying what you're asserting I am thinking or shut the fuck up.