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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 1:01 pm

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Genivaria wrote:Oops I kind of assumed there.


That, plus the Dixie Flag isn't meant to be an 'American' flag, but rather a regional flag (pride to call the ex-confederate southern states home - celebrating the unique southern lifestyle).

It's technically about as unpatriotic of a flag as just about every single flag of a foreign nation or any other US region, but whether if it's 'offensive' or not is strictly in the eyes of the beholder.

Yes, absolutely nothing unpatriotic about flying a flag that represents traitors.
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Postby Lingang » Sat May 16, 2015 1:12 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:Isn't South Carolina a rebel state? They were probably offended that he flew a Yankee flag.

No. South Carolina is apart of the United States.
It was a rebel state...some 150 years ago. I'm almost certain that the state (or at least the majority) no longer sees the country as "Union" and "Confederate", "Yankee" and "Rebel"...
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 1:12 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:Because, although the douche was told to remove both flags, people only protested the removal of the American flag.

But if it's really about safety, the school should have no issue with them flying a POW/MIA flag, a South Carolina flag, an Atlanta Braves flag, a USC Gamecocks flag, or any other flag as long as it isn't large enough to be a "hazard".

I'm not having any luck finding the school's rules in anything other than PDF format (not going to download a PDF to my phone), but my understanding is that the problem was the size of the flags, not what type of flags they were. In fact, neither story I read about this gives any indication that there was any issue with the fact that the particular flags were an American flag and a POW flag.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 1:13 pm

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Lleu llaw Gyffes wrote:Because Dixie-crats pulled down the Union flag.


Do you even know what Dixiecrats are?

It doesn't seem likely...
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Postby Erythropoietin » Sat May 16, 2015 1:29 pm

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The Two Jerseys wrote:But if it's really about safety, the school should have no issue with them flying a POW/MIA flag, a South Carolina flag, an Atlanta Braves flag, a USC Gamecocks flag, or any other flag as long as it isn't large enough to be a "hazard".

I'm not having any luck finding the school's rules in anything other than PDF format (not going to download a PDF to my phone), but my understanding is that the problem was the size of the flags, not what type of flags they were. In fact, neither story I read about this gives any indication that there was any issue with the fact that the particular flags were an American flag and a POW flag.

your not getting it the whole story was about someone being offended by the kid flying the American flag. the only and only reason anything about size was mentioned was so the school can save face after the backlash. read the links I posted in the op otherwise stop saying it was about the size which it wasn't.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 1:34 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:I'm not having any luck finding the school's rules in anything other than PDF format (not going to download a PDF to my phone), but my understanding is that the problem was the size of the flags, not what type of flags they were. In fact, neither story I read about this gives any indication that there was any issue with the fact that the particular flags were an American flag and a POW flag.

your not getting it the whole story was about someone being offended by the kid flying the American flag.[citation needed] the only and only reason anything about size was mentioned was so the school can save face after the backlash. read the links I posted in the op otherwise stop saying it was about the size which it wasn't.

The link you posted in the OP is the Daily Fail, thus it is worthless.
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Erythropoietin wrote:your not getting it the whole story was about someone being offended by the kid flying the American flag.[citation needed] the only and only reason anything about size was mentioned was so the school can save face after the backlash. read the links I posted in the op otherwise stop saying it was about the size which it wasn't.

The link you posted in the OP is the Daily Fail, thus it is worthless.

but then theirs other links I listed so your still wrong

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 1:38 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:The link you posted in the OP is the Daily Fail, thus it is worthless.

but then theirs there's other links I listed so your still wrong

Nope, I'm not. I suggest you try actually reading some of the other links posted.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat May 16, 2015 1:41 pm

And this is an issue.... how?
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Postby Erythropoietin » Sat May 16, 2015 1:43 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Erythropoietin wrote:but then theirs there's other links I listed so your still wrong

Nope, I'm not. I suggest you try actually reading some of the other links posted.

I suggest you read links that actually have relevance to this story or links that back your claims

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 1:46 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:And this is an issue.... how?

Because, PATRIOTISM™!!!
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat May 16, 2015 1:49 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:I'm not having any luck finding the school's rules in anything other than PDF format (not going to download a PDF to my phone), but my understanding is that the problem was the size of the flags, not what type of flags they were. In fact, neither story I read about this gives any indication that there was any issue with the fact that the particular flags were an American flag and a POW flag.

your not getting it the whole story was about someone being offended by the kid flying the American flag. the only and only reason anything about size was mentioned was so the school can save face after the backlash. read the links I posted in the op otherwise stop saying it was about the size which it wasn't.


Or, you know, they could be stating the truth and the kid who is saying they are being anti-patriotic is wrong.
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Soldati senza confini wrote:
Erythropoietin wrote:your not getting it the whole story was about someone being offended by the kid flying the American flag. the only and only reason anything about size was mentioned was so the school can save face after the backlash. read the links I posted in the op otherwise stop saying it was about the size which it wasn't.


Or, you know, they could be stating the truth and the kid who is saying they are being anti-patriotic is wrong.

What do you mean?

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 1:54 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Erythropoietin wrote:your not getting it the whole story was about someone being offended by the kid flying the American flag. the only and only reason anything about size was mentioned was so the school can save face after the backlash. read the links I posted in the op otherwise stop saying it was about the size which it wasn't.


Or, you know, they could be stating the truth and the kid who is saying they are being anti-patriotic is wrong.

Nah, that couldn't possibly be it... I mean, the Daily Fail and Faux News say that it's just that school is unpatriotic, and those are to impeccable sources right there.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat May 16, 2015 2:00 pm

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Soldati senza confini wrote:
Or, you know, they could be stating the truth and the kid who is saying they are being anti-patriotic is wrong.

What do you mean?


That this doesn't seem to be an issue with the flag.

When I read it, at first, I was like "oh, well, maybe the size of the flag was not proper" and subsequent reading leads to that conclusion. Yes, there are assholes in the road with flags too fucking big, and this distracts drivers' vision field. You are creating a blind spot with a big flag. Generally? I would say the only modest flag size is the ones that go in your car's antenna. I use them and I have never been told they are an eyesore.

So, with that in mind, I have more reason to believe that the flag was a genuine eyesore than a school having an anti-patriotic staff.
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Soldati senza confini wrote:
Or, you know, they could be stating the truth and the kid who is saying they are being anti-patriotic is wrong.

Nah, that couldn't possibly be it... I mean, the Daily Fail and Faux News say that it's just that school is unpatriotic, and those are to impeccable sources right there.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat May 16, 2015 2:08 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:But if it's really about safety, the school should have no issue with them flying a POW/MIA flag, a South Carolina flag, an Atlanta Braves flag, a USC Gamecocks flag, or any other flag as long as it isn't large enough to be a "hazard".

I'm not having any luck finding the school's rules in anything other than PDF format (not going to download a PDF to my phone), but my understanding is that the problem was the size of the flags, not what type of flags they were. In fact, neither story I read about this gives any indication that there was any issue with the fact that the particular flags were an American flag and a POW flag.

Here's the school's statement from the article concerning their policy change:
The school’s principal said: ‘School officials have reviewed the standing policy regarding flags and have decided that an exception will be made for the American flag, as long as the size of the flag(s) does not create a driving hazard.’

If the flag is small enough that it isn't a hazard, why are they still banning all but American flags?
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Dyakovo wrote:I'm not having any luck finding the school's rules in anything other than PDF format (not going to download a PDF to my phone), but my understanding is that the problem was the size of the flags, not what type of flags they were. In fact, neither story I read about this gives any indication that there was any issue with the fact that the particular flags were an American flag and a POW flag.

Here's the school's statement from the article concerning their policy change:
The school’s principal said: ‘School officials have reviewed the standing policy regarding flags and have decided that an exception will be made for the American flag, as long as the size of the flag(s) does not create a driving hazard.’

If the flag is small enough that it isn't a hazard, why are they still banning all but American flags?


That's what happens during a lashback, they tend to be harsher.

This should be a lesson for people in life: don't piss off your school superiors.
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Dyakovo wrote:I'm not having any luck finding the school's rules in anything other than PDF format (not going to download a PDF to my phone), but my understanding is that the problem was the size of the flags, not what type of flags they were. In fact, neither story I read about this gives any indication that there was any issue with the fact that the particular flags were an American flag and a POW flag.

Here's the school's statement from the article concerning their policy change:
The school’s principal said: ‘School officials have reviewed the standing policy regarding flags and have decided that an exception will be made for the American flag, as long as the size of the flag(s) does not create a driving hazard.’

If the flag is small enough that it isn't a hazard, why are they still banning all but American flags?

Because the protest was specifically about the American flag.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat May 16, 2015 2:40 pm

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Genivaria wrote:Oops I kind of assumed there.


That, plus the Dixie Flag isn't meant to be an 'American' flag, but rather a regional flag (pride to call the ex-confederate southern states home - celebrating the unique southern lifestyle).

It's technically about as unpatriotic of a flag as just about every single flag of a foreign nation or any other US region, but whether if it's 'offensive' or not is strictly in the eyes of the beholder.


It's the flag of people who actively waged war on the United States, and who still believe in the cause as some sort of noble effort. It's the equivalent of flying a swastika flag.

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Dyakovo wrote:
Erythropoietin wrote:your not getting it the whole story was about someone being offended by the kid flying the American flag.[citation needed] the only and only reason anything about size was mentioned was so the school can save face after the backlash. read the links I posted in the op otherwise stop saying it was about the size which it wasn't.

The link you posted in the OP is the Daily Fail, thus it is worthless.


Is CBS News a good enough source for you?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carol ... ags-truck/

"Just proud to be an American citizen," the 18-year-old told WBTV. Robinson said a York Comprehensive High School administrator told him remove the American flag and the POW-MIA flag, which he has in the back of his truck.

"He said, 'We're having some issues. Some people were complaining about the flags in your truck, possibly offend them.' He asked me to take it down," Robinson said.

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Eastern Equestria wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:The link you posted in the OP is the Daily Fail, thus it is worthless.


Is CBS News a good enough source for you?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carol ... ags-truck/

"Just proud to be an American citizen," the 18-year-old told WBTV. Robinson said a York Comprehensive High School administrator told him remove the American flag and the POW-MIA flag, which he has in the back of his truck.

"He said, 'We're having some issues. Some people were complaining about the flags in your truck, possibly offend them.' He asked me to take it down," Robinson said.

Yes, the kid claims that that is the reasoning provided. I don't believe him.
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Dyakovo wrote:
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Is CBS News a good enough source for you?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carol ... ags-truck/

"Just proud to be an American citizen," the 18-year-old told WBTV. Robinson said a York Comprehensive High School administrator told him remove the American flag and the POW-MIA flag, which he has in the back of his truck.

"He said, 'We're having some issues. Some people were complaining about the flags in your truck, possibly offend them.' He asked me to take it down," Robinson said.

Yes, the kid claims that that is the reasoning provided. I don't believe him.


Why not? If the school had initially told him that his flags were a safety concern, rather than a political one, then I doubt he and the SC community would have objected in the manner they did.
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Dyakovo wrote:Assuming, of course, that you are gullible enough to buy the kid's version of events...

at least I'm not gullible to believe the schools excuse for this unlike you


And yet you accept the student's word without question.
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Gig em Aggies wrote:at least I'm not gullible to believe the schools excuse for this unlike you


And yet you accept the student's word without question.

So I'm just supposed to sit back and let a school official remove my property from being on display on my vehicle and not do anything. Don't be so stupid I'd back the kid anyway over the school.
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