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Postby Llamalandia » Sat May 16, 2015 10:45 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
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Stop using words if you don't know what they mean.


Agreed, though many socialists (though certainly not all might agree) that statement isn't in anyway integral to socialism and in fact some socialists are also racists or extreme nationalists. They are mutually exclusive.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 10:46 am

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...more then 70 trucks and cars flying flags came to the school while be saluted by veterans and others along the road near the school

I think this answers your question.


So they're willing to sacrifice the safety of their students in the name of community pressure? That's the height of irresponsibility.

Thus (one of the reasons) why I said they shouldn't have backed down...
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Postby Llamalandia » Sat May 16, 2015 10:48 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
So they're willing to sacrifice the safety of their students in the name of community pressure? That's the height of irresponsibility.

Thus (one of the reasons) why I said they shouldn't have backed down...

Except they realized they weren't sacrificing safety.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 10:49 am

Conkerials wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:something that was blocking people's view/ability to drive

nobody has complained about it being in their way or anything,

It's just a flag.

A full size flag, one that is meant to be flown from a flag pole - not a vehicle.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 10:52 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
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If it was a safety issue, why are they only allowing them to fly American flags?


An excellent question, indeed.

Because, although the douche was told to remove both flags, people only protested the removal of the American flag.
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Postby Llamalandia » Sat May 16, 2015 10:52 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
So they're willing to sacrifice the safety of their students in the name of community pressure? That's the height of irresponsibility.

Thus (one of the reasons) why I said they shouldn't have backed down...

What are the others reasons ?

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Postby Llamalandia » Sat May 16, 2015 10:54 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
An excellent question, indeed.

Because, although the douche was told to remove both flags, people only protested the removal of the American flag.

Well wasn't the other flag a pow Mia flag. I know for certain a number of veterans were involved in the protest, so it seems reasonable to think they were protesting for both, but obviously the usa flag takes precedence and was probably more readily on hand for most protesters.

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Postby Greed and Death » Sat May 16, 2015 11:43 am

The American flag offends neo confederates so it is often banned in the south.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sat May 16, 2015 11:44 am

Dyakovo wrote:
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It's just a flag.

A full size flag, one that is meant to be flown from a flag pole - not a vehicle.

Does South Carolina law forbid flying a flag from a vehicle even a full sized one ?

And even if it is why is the school enforcing something that is the job of the police to enforce ?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat May 16, 2015 12:01 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
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So they're willing to sacrifice the safety of their students in the name of community pressure? That's the height of irresponsibility.

Thus (one of the reasons) why I said they shouldn't have backed down...


And that would be fair. The fact that they didn't makes me doubt the sincerity of their claim that safety was the motivation.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat May 16, 2015 12:06 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Thus (one of the reasons) why I said they shouldn't have backed down...


And that would be fair. The fact that they didn't makes me doubt the sincerity of their claim that safety was the motivation.

Safety wasn't their motivation they just used that to save face after the backlash
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Postby Genivaria » Sat May 16, 2015 12:08 pm

In my eyes the Dixie flag is an unAmerican and unpatriotic flag.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat May 16, 2015 12:14 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
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And that would be fair. The fact that they didn't makes me doubt the sincerity of their claim that safety was the motivation.

Safety wasn't their motivation they just used that to save face after the backlash


That's certainly my suspicion.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat May 16, 2015 12:14 pm

Genivaria wrote:In my eyes the Dixie flag is an unAmerican and unpatriotic flag.


True. However, that has literally nothing whatsoever to do with anything about this topic.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 12:17 pm

greed and death wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:A full size flag, one that is meant to be flown from a flag pole - not a vehicle.

Does South Carolina law forbid flying a flag from a vehicle even a full sized one ?

And even if it is why is the school enforcing something that is the job of the police to enforce ?

1: They should.
2: Schools are allowed to have their own standards of what is acceptable on their grounds.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sat May 16, 2015 12:20 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Safety wasn't their motivation they just used that to save face after the backlash


That's certainly my suspicion.

We allow people to lessen safety all the time with their vehicles, decals on the back windshield, window tint, and driving with dirty windows.

Saying hey this is unsafe is not some ultimate justification for school or even police authority. Typically we balance safety and expression with the legislature passing laws and the executive branch passing regulations. In this case there does not appear to be a law or regulation against flying a flag on a truck. Also since when has the school become the enforcer of road safety regulations ? The student drives his vehicle on school property maybe 30 minutes a day and at the speed of 5 mph, what interest the school has in enforcing road safety rules is minimal.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 12:20 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
And that would be fair. The fact that they didn't makes me doubt the sincerity of their claim that safety was the motivation.

Safety wasn't their motivation they just used that to save face after the backlash

Assuming, of course, that you are gullible enough to buy the kid's version of events...
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat May 16, 2015 12:21 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
greed and death wrote:Does South Carolina law forbid flying a flag from a vehicle even a full sized one ?

And even if it is why is the school enforcing something that is the job of the police to enforce ?

1: They should.
2: Schools are allowed to have their own standards of what is acceptable on their grounds.

yeah but their not allowed to remove stuff from students vehicles w/o the students permission or permission from the police. your vehicle in a schools parking lot does not mean the school is free to do whatever they please to your vehicle.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat May 16, 2015 12:22 pm

Genivaria wrote:In my eyes the Dixie flag is an unAmerican and unpatriotic flag.

That's nice. What does it have to do with the topic?
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Sat May 16, 2015 12:23 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Safety wasn't their motivation they just used that to save face after the backlash

Assuming, of course, that you are gullible enough to buy the kid's version of events...

at least I'm not gullible to believe the schools excuse for this unlike you
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Postby Genivaria » Sat May 16, 2015 12:35 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Genivaria wrote:In my eyes the Dixie flag is an unAmerican and unpatriotic flag.


True. However, that has literally nothing whatsoever to do with anything about this topic.

Oops I kind of assumed there.
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Postby Lleu llaw Gyffes » Sat May 16, 2015 12:40 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Genivaria wrote:In my eyes the Dixie flag is an unAmerican and unpatriotic flag.

That's nice. What does it have to do with the topic?

Because Dixie-crats pulled down the Union flag.

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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat May 16, 2015 12:43 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
True. However, that has literally nothing whatsoever to do with anything about this topic.

Oops I kind of assumed there.


That, plus the Dixie Flag isn't meant to be an 'American' flag, but rather a regional flag (pride to call the ex-confederate southern states home - celebrating the unique southern lifestyle).

It's technically about as unpatriotic of a flag as just about every single flag of a foreign nation or any other US region, but whether if it's 'offensive' or not is strictly in the eyes of the beholder.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat May 16, 2015 12:45 pm

Lleu llaw Gyffes wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:That's nice. What does it have to do with the topic?

Because Dixie-crats pulled down the Union flag.


Do you even know what Dixiecrats are?
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat May 16, 2015 12:51 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
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An excellent question, indeed.

Because, although the douche was told to remove both flags, people only protested the removal of the American flag.

But if it's really about safety, the school should have no issue with them flying a POW/MIA flag, a South Carolina flag, an Atlanta Braves flag, a USC Gamecocks flag, or any other flag as long as it isn't large enough to be a "hazard".
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