South Carolina school dislikes America

[Atlanticatia]

More political correctness, this time in South Carolina. Students have first amendment rights, and that should never be taken from them.

My school bans students from wearing gang symbols or clothing that could be considered racist, homophobic, or otherwise offensive. Should this rule be removed?

[Erythropoietin]

More political correctness, this time in South Carolina. Students have first amendment rights, and that should never be taken from them.

My school bans students from wearing gang symbols or clothing that could be considered racist, homophobic, or otherwise offensive. Should this rule be removed?

that's different then flying an American flag in America

[Dyakovo]

Why would that be funny?

Because the school would be taking those flags off his truck for "being offensive", yet somehow it's not offensive for the school itself to fly the exact same flags.

The school didn't tell him to remove them because they were offensive.

[Dyakovo]

Not to mention the detail that there was absolutely nothing political about the douche being told to take the flags off his truck, so there's no possibility of this being a case of "political correctness gone too far"...

The initial complaint was allegedly that other students had found it "offensive". That's awfully close to political.

We have the kid saying that the school said people complained about it being offensive, and the school saying it was because it was a safety issue.
Of the two, I know which I consider to be a more reliable source of information.

[The Two Jerseys]

Because the school would be taking those flags off his truck for "being offensive", yet somehow it's not offensive for the school itself to fly the exact same flags.

The school didn't tell him to remove them because they were offensive.

No, they went and removed them on their own for that reason.

Then they backtracked and said it was a "safety issue".

[Krasny-Volny]

I hate trucks with big flags flying on the bed. They do it make it hard to see when you're trying to pass them, and the only people I know of who do this shyte - incidentally, given the subject of the article - are teenage attention whores. That's their way of showing off their truck and getting it noticed if they can't afford overlarge speakers, tires or rims.

There's usually nothing patriotic about it.

[Dyakovo]

Cite the law that states that the school cannot set their own standards as to what is allowed on school grounds.

Yeah!

I propose the school make is so that vehicles on their grounds must have at least two spare tires on board to park there, and that at least four forward-facing illumination lights must be on at all times.

What if all the tires go flat? Much better to require 4 spares.

[Dyakovo]

The school didn't tell him to remove them because they were offensive.

No, they went and removed them on their own for that reason.

Then they backtracked and said it was a "safety issue".

According to the kid, that was the reason. I don't believe his version of events.

[The Two Jerseys]

No, they went and removed them on their own for that reason.

Then they backtracked and said it was a "safety issue".

According to the kid, that was the reason. I don't believe his version of events.

I don't believe the school's version.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

The initial complaint was allegedly that other students had found it "offensive". That's awfully close to political.

We have the kid saying that the school said people complained about it being offensive, and the school saying it was because it was a safety issue.
Of the two, I know which I consider to be a more reliable source of information.

If it was a safety issue, then why didn't they stand their ground and say something like "We don't mind the patriotic display, but we need this done in a manner that doesn't pose a threat?" Instead, they backed down entirely, and if this is a safety hazard, left themselves in an actionable position in the event of an accident caused by this hazard.

[Teemant]

How is this that sort of nationalism?

First of all, we already obviously have the racism and xenophobia, I just don't want it to get worse.

And:

...more then 70 trucks and cars flying flags came to the school while be saluted by veterans and others along the road near the school

if that were me I would have punched the guy not because of the flag but because he removed something from my vehicle when he didn't have permission to do so in the first place.

A massive militaristic parade because they removed an eyesore/something that was blocking people's view/ability to drive, and then a threat of physical violence. That's ultranationalism.

Socialist handbook: 1) Everything has to do with racism and everything is nationalism

[Yuketobaniac]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3083005/Outrage-South-Carolina-high-school-students-told-teachers-remove-flag-trucks-offensive.html

Synopsis: The short story is a 18 year old senior at a South Carolina high school was asked to remove his American flag off his truck after school officials told him it was offensive and had complaints. they later said it was a "driving" hazard preventing others from seeing but no one has complained about before. But it seems that in this particular city or town school administers can just go ahead with out your permission or you even being at your truck to take it down. yep a school official took it upon himself to unbolt the teens flag from his truck and lay down in the trucks bed. but the school did an about face and let the kid keep his flag after people backed the kid and more then 70 trucks and cars flying flags came to the school while be saluted by veterans and others along the road near the school

if that were me I would have punched the guy not because of the flag but because he removed something from my vehicle when he didn't have permission to do so in the first place.

This happened in South Carolina?

and not Iran

[The Two Jerseys]

We have the kid saying that the school said people complained about it being offensive, and the school saying it was because it was a safety issue.
Of the two, I know which I consider to be a more reliable source of information.

If it was a safety issue, then why didn't they stand their ground and say something like "We don't mind the patriotic display, but we need this done in a manner that doesn't pose a threat?" Instead, they backed down entirely, and if this is a safety hazard, left themselves in an actionable position in the event of an accident caused by this hazard.

From the article:

Following the protests the High School and its administration have been forced into an embarrassing about-face.

The school’s principal said: ‘School officials have reviewed the standing policy regarding flags and have decided that an exception will be made for the American flag, as long as the size of the flag(s) does not create a driving hazard.’

If it was a safety issue, why are they only allowing them to fly American flags?

[Dyakovo]

We have the kid saying that the school said people complained about it being offensive, and the school saying it was because it was a safety issue.
Of the two, I know which I consider to be a more reliable source of information.

If it was a safety issue, then why didn't they stand their ground and say something like "We don't mind the patriotic display, but we need this done in a manner that doesn't pose a threat?" Instead, they backed down entirely, and if this is a safety hazard, left themselves in an actionable position in the event of an accident caused by this hazard.

...more then 70 trucks and cars flying flags came to the school while be saluted by veterans and others along the road near the school

I think this answers your question.

[Erythropoietin]

If it was a safety issue, then why didn't they stand their ground and say something like "We don't mind the patriotic display, but we need this done in a manner that doesn't pose a threat?" Instead, they backed down entirely, and if this is a safety hazard, left themselves in an actionable position in the event of an accident caused by this hazard.

...more then 70 trucks and cars flying flags came to the school while be saluted by veterans and others along the road near the school

I think this answers your question.

That was to protest the schools decision not because their were 70 vehicles with a flag everyday in the lot read the story

[Wallenburg]

This is how Johnny Reb lives on, huh? How pathetic.

[Wallenburg]

First of all, we already obviously have the racism and xenophobia, I just don't want it to get worse.

And:
A massive militaristic parade because they removed an eyesore/something that was blocking people's view/ability to drive, and then a threat of physical violence. That's ultranationalism.

Socialist handbook: 1) Everything has to do with racism and everything is nationalism

How's 'bout you shut up and actually learn what socialism is?

[Conkerials]

something that was blocking people's view/ability to drive

nobody has complained about it being in their way or anything,

It's just a flag.

[Llamalandia]

If I am not too much mistaken, they originally told the student they had received complaints that other students might be offended or something to that effect. But yeah, administrators quickly changed course and said it was all about safety. I'm willing to more or less give me the benefit of the doubt and say they were legit concerned about safety. But now that the flags have clearly been ruled legal if they ever get taken down in he future, the school will clearly be in the wrong and presumably acting from PC motivations.

"Received complaints about it" and "people were offended by it" are two different things.

We'll. Believe those two clauses were joined if I'm not mistaken, suggesting the complaints were motivated by offense, sorry if I was less than clear about that. Then the school subsequently claimed they saw it as a safety concern.

[Llamalandia]

We have the kid saying that the school said people complained about it being offensive, and the school saying it was because it was a safety issue.
Of the two, I know which I consider to be a more reliable source of information.

If it was a safety issue, then why didn't they stand their ground and say something like "We don't mind the patriotic display, but we need this done in a manner that doesn't pose a threat?" Instead, they backed down entirely, and if this is a safety hazard, left themselves in an actionable position in the event of an accident caused by this hazard.

Well I think when the police spoke on the issue the school had little choice. But it is also possible they just made a good faith mistake and when presented with competing evidence realized their mistake and correct for it.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

First of all, we already obviously have the racism and xenophobia, I just don't want it to get worse.

And:
A massive militaristic parade because they removed an eyesore/something that was blocking people's view/ability to drive, and then a threat of physical violence. That's ultranationalism.

Socialist handbook: 1) Everything has to do with racism and everything is nationalism

Stop using words if you don't know what they mean.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

If it was a safety issue, then why didn't they stand their ground and say something like "We don't mind the patriotic display, but we need this done in a manner that doesn't pose a threat?" Instead, they backed down entirely, and if this is a safety hazard, left themselves in an actionable position in the event of an accident caused by this hazard.

From the article:

Following the protests the High School and its administration have been forced into an embarrassing about-face.

The school’s principal said: ‘School officials have reviewed the standing policy regarding flags and have decided that an exception will be made for the American flag, as long as the size of the flag(s) does not create a driving hazard.’

If it was a safety issue, why are they only allowing them to fly American flags?

An excellent question, indeed.

[Dyakovo]

...more then 70 trucks and cars flying flags came to the school while be saluted by veterans and others along the road near the school

I think this answers your question.

That was to protest the schools decision not because their were 70 vehicles with a flag everyday in the lot read the story

Yes, my point was that the school backed down because of the protest.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

If it was a safety issue, then why didn't they stand their ground and say something like "We don't mind the patriotic display, but we need this done in a manner that doesn't pose a threat?" Instead, they backed down entirely, and if this is a safety hazard, left themselves in an actionable position in the event of an accident caused by this hazard.

...more then 70 trucks and cars flying flags came to the school while be saluted by veterans and others along the road near the school

I think this answers your question.

So they're willing to sacrifice the safety of their students in the name of community pressure? That's the height of irresponsibility.

[Llamalandia]

The initial complaint was allegedly that other students had found it "offensive". That's awfully close to political.

We have the kid saying that the school said people complained about it being offensive, and the school saying it was because it was a safety issue.
Of the two, I know which I consider to be a more reliable source of information.

Well, I think it possible part of it is just a miscommunication. They may both believe to be speaking honestly. Like I said, give the school the benefit of the doubt in the absence of other evidence in this case and given that correctly reversed themselves rather quickly. That said, it is entirely plausible that school was motivated by PC concern, I just don't think that is the case in this instance. But it largely seems moot. The wrong has been righted and it seems as though both sides are satisfied.