South Carolina school dislikes America

[AiliailiA]

I have yet to hear quote from any SC police. When I say "a quote" I mean a sentence, in quote marks, from a named officer. And I want that under the name of a journalist too.

Without that, police ARE NOT "on the record".



Is that according to police?

If so, source it. If not, stop making shit up.

There is no mention in the code whatsoever of flying flags other than warning flags on a moving vehicle.

Since it's not expressly prohibited or banned, this section applies:

SECTION 56-5-4430. Additional parts and accessories not prohibited.

Nothing contained in this article shall be construed to prohibit the use of additional parts and accessories of any vehicle which are not inconsistent with the provisions of this article.

HISTORY: 1962 Code Section 46-513; 1952 Code Section 46-513; 1949 (46) 466.

You stated that flags are not part of the vehicle's load. You haven't proven that yet.

[Avaerilon]

Asking someone to remove a flag from their vehicle may be many things, but it's not about a school "disliking America." Bit of a stretch, there.

[Republic of Coldwater]

More political correctness, this time in South Carolina. Students have first amendment rights, and that should never be taken from them.

[San Eulogio]

Wow, while I'm not the fondest of the USA in general, I greatly support all patriots from any country there is and I just find this insulting to your own country.

Probably the leftists who thought this was 'triggering', I suppose.

[AiliailiA]

More political correctness, this time in South Carolina. Students have first amendment rights, and that should never be taken from them.

Students don't have first amendment rights, in school. I don't know where you got that idea.

There's another issue of property rights which isn't so clear. While the car was parked on school grounds, the staff probably didn't have a sufficient cause (safety of other students) to remove the flag. They were probably wrong about that, but not on the grounds of free speech.

[The Two Jerseys]

There is no mention in the code whatsoever of flying flags other than warning flags on a moving vehicle.

Since it's not expressly prohibited or banned, this section applies:

You stated that flags are not part of the vehicle's load. You haven't proven that yet.

There's also nothing that proves they are part of the load.

Without a legal definition, it's unenforceable.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

More political correctness, this time in South Carolina. Students have first amendment rights, and that should never be taken from them.

The First Amendment rights of students are limited, However, in this particular case, I believe that you are correct.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Wow, while I'm not the fondest of the USA in general, I greatly support all patriots from any country there is and I just find this insulting to your own country.

Probably the leftists who thought this was 'triggering', I suppose.

I do so like how with no information whatsoever, you're still able to blame this on "leftists".

[Yumyumsuppertime]

More political correctness, this time in South Carolina. Students have first amendment rights, and that should never be taken from them.

Students don't have first amendment rights, in school. I don't know where you got that idea.

There's another issue of property rights which isn't so clear. While the car was parked on school grounds, the staff probably didn't have a sufficient cause (safety of other students) to remove the flag. They were probably wrong about that, but not on the grounds of free speech.

They do actually have First Amendment rights in school, although some limitations apply.

[The Two Jerseys]

You know what would be really funny?

If the school flies the American and POW flags on its flagpole.

[Dyakovo]

Got to love the fact this is a non-issue.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/american-flag- ... d=31070079

Seeing the size of the flag, I fully understand why he was told to take it down. I also think the school was wrong to have backed down.

[Dyakovo]

More political correctness, this time in South Carolina. Students have first amendment rights, and that should never be taken from them.

Students don't have first amendment rights, in school. I don't know where you got that idea.

There's another issue of property rights which isn't so clear. While the car was parked on school grounds, the staff probably didn't have a sufficient cause (safety of other students) to remove the flag. They were probably wrong about that, but not on the grounds of free speech.

Not to mention the detail that there was absolutely nothing political about the douche being told to take the flags off his truck, so there's no possibility of this being a case of "political correctness gone too far"...

[Dyakovo]

You know what would be really funny?

If the school flies the American and POW flags on its flagpole.

Why would that be funny?

[Esternial]

Americans are really passionate about their flag. Just because you take down the flag doesn't mean you hate the entire country.

As a Belgian I don't really understand it, but whatevs.

[Llamalandia]

Students don't have first amendment rights, in school. I don't know where you got that idea.

There's another issue of property rights which isn't so clear. While the car was parked on school grounds, the staff probably didn't have a sufficient cause (safety of other students) to remove the flag. They were probably wrong about that, but not on the grounds of free speech.

Not to mention the detail that there was absolutely nothing political about the douche being told to take the flags off his truck, so there's no possibility of this being a case of "political correctness gone too far"...

If I am not too much mistaken, they originally told the student they had received complaints that other students might be offended or something to that effect. But yeah, administrators quickly changed course and said it was all about safety. I'm willing to more or less give me the benefit of the doubt and say they were legit concerned about safety. But now that the flags have clearly been ruled legal if they ever get taken down in he future, the school will clearly be in the wrong and presumably acting from PC motivations.

[Llamalandia]

Got to love the fact this is a non-issue.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/american-flag- ... d=31070079

Seeing the size of the flag, I fully understand why he was told to take it down. I also think the school was wrong to have backed down.

Why the cops basically said the school was wrong and the flags were legal. the school did not have much choice. They have to respect the law and free speech (generally its a bit more complex but for this purpose of this discussion they pretty much do).

[Llamalandia]

Wow, while I'm not the fondest of the USA in general, I greatly support all patriots from any country there is and I just find this insulting to your own country.

Probably the leftists who thought this was 'triggering', I suppose.

I do so like how with no information whatsoever, you're still able to blame this on "leftists".

Ok fair enough. But then again, when was the last time some on the right did something like this. Heck if anything they punish the kid for not having even larger flags.

[Dyakovo]

Not to mention the detail that there was absolutely nothing political about the douche being told to take the flags off his truck, so there's no possibility of this being a case of "political correctness gone too far"...

If I am not too much mistaken, they originally told the student they had received complaints that other students might be offended or something to that effect. But yeah, administrators quickly changed course and said it was all about safety. I'm willing to more or less give me the benefit of the doubt and say they were legit concerned about safety. But now that the flags have clearly been ruled legal if they ever get taken down in he future, the school will clearly be in the wrong and presumably acting from PC motivations.

"Received complaints about it" and "people were offended by it" are two different things.

[Dyakovo]

Seeing the size of the flag, I fully understand why he was told to take it down. I also think the school was wrong to have backed down.

Why the cops basically said the school was wrong and the flags were legal. the school did not have much choice. They have to respect the law and free speech (generally its a bit more complex but for this purpose of this discussion they pretty much do).

Cite the law that states that the school cannot set their own standards as to what is allowed on school grounds.

[Erythropoietin]

Why the cops basically said the school was wrong and the flags were legal. the school did not have much choice. They have to respect the law and free speech (generally its a bit more complex but for this purpose of this discussion they pretty much do).

Cite the law that states that the school cannot set their own standards as to what is allowed on school grounds.

their isn't one the cops told the news station or the school that it was street legal their for the schools claim of blocking the view of drivers is un founded and the only reason the school said it was safety hazard was after people became outraged about the original excuse for removing the flag.

[The Two Jerseys]

You know what would be really funny?

If the school flies the American and POW flags on its flagpole.

Why would that be funny?

Because the school would be taking those flags off his truck for "being offensive", yet somehow it's not offensive for the school itself to fly the exact same flags.

[Eastern Equestria]

Got to love the fact this is a non-issue.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/american-flag- ... d=31070079

Seeing the size of the flag, I fully understand why he was told to take it down. I also think the school was wrong to have backed down.

As multiple sources have corroborated, he was originally told to take down his flag because he was told that some people found it offensive. The school only cited public safety as their reasoning after receiving negative press for their original move, leading me to believe that they were just trying to cover their ass.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Students don't have first amendment rights, in school. I don't know where you got that idea.

There's another issue of property rights which isn't so clear. While the car was parked on school grounds, the staff probably didn't have a sufficient cause (safety of other students) to remove the flag. They were probably wrong about that, but not on the grounds of free speech.

Not to mention the detail that there was absolutely nothing political about the douche being told to take the flags off his truck, so there's no possibility of this being a case of "political correctness gone too far"...

The initial complaint was allegedly that other students had found it "offensive". That's awfully close to political.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Not to mention the detail that there was absolutely nothing political about the douche being told to take the flags off his truck, so there's no possibility of this being a case of "political correctness gone too far"...

If I am not too much mistaken, they originally told the student they had received complaints that other students might be offended or something to that effect. But yeah, administrators quickly changed course and said it was all about safety. I'm willing to more or less give me the benefit of the doubt and say they were legit concerned about safety. But now that the flags have clearly been ruled legal if they ever get taken down in he future, the school will clearly be in the wrong and presumably acting from PC motivations.

I'm actually not willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on that. If that was actually the case, then they would have said as much when they initially gave their reasons to the student. See, safety would be a valid reason, but since they only used that as an excuse after they went back on the decision, I'm skeptical, as one would think that safety would be an issue that they wouldn't compromise on.

[Galloism]

Why the cops basically said the school was wrong and the flags were legal. the school did not have much choice. They have to respect the law and free speech (generally its a bit more complex but for this purpose of this discussion they pretty much do).

Cite the law that states that the school cannot set their own standards as to what is allowed on school grounds.

Yeah!

I propose the school make is so that vehicles on their grounds must have at least two spare tires on board to park there, and that at least four forward-facing illumination lights must be on at all times.