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Postby AiliailiA » Fri May 15, 2015 8:23 pm

Llamalandia wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:The flags are each 4 feet high and 6 feet long. They're mouted about 18-inches in from the sides of the tray. Thus they can flap 4-and-a-half feet to either side of the vehicle: on the right hand side, far enough to obscure the view of the road for a driver in the next lane.

No fucking way should that be legal. The school should have called the police.


Actuall cops said the flags were street legal, specifically the highway patrol. Here's a link to back that up.


Still waiting for that.

You said before it was on fox news. I don't like video sources, but I'll accept one if it's all you've got.

BTW, I don't object to the flag on this car:

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It might flap around and cause a "distraction" but with the flagstaff centered on the vehicle it can't flap too far out to either side and actually obscure another driver's view. That's what most concerns me.
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Postby Llamalandia » Fri May 15, 2015 8:26 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Llamalandia wrote:
Actuall cops said the flags were street legal, specifically the highway patrol. Here's a link to back that up.


Still waiting for that.

You said before it was on fox news. I don't like video sources, but I'll accept one if it's all you've got.

BTW, I don't object to the flag on this car:

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It might flap around and cause a "distraction" but with the flagstaff centered on the vehicle it can't flap too far out to either side and actually obscure another driver's view. That's what most concerns me.

Sorry my bad not thinking tonight.
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Oh and it's in the text you don't have to watch any video and its a non faux news sauce
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri May 15, 2015 8:55 pm

Llamalandia wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
Still waiting for that.

You said before it was on fox news. I don't like video sources, but I'll accept one if it's all you've got.

BTW, I don't object to the flag on this car:

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It might flap around and cause a "distraction" but with the flagstaff centered on the vehicle it can't flap too far out to either side and actually obscure another driver's view. That's what most concerns me.

Sorry my bad not thinking tonight.
http://kfor.com/2015/05/14/high-school-tells-student-to-stop-flying-american-pow-flags-on-truck/

Oh and it's in the text you don't have to watch any video and its a non faux news sauce


That's three gold stars right there, then.

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Postby AiliailiA » Fri May 15, 2015 9:42 pm

If a highway patroller DID say the flag is street legal, they're wrong.

SECTION 56-5-4030. Width of vehicles.

(A) As contained in this section, "appurtenances" include:

(1) an awning and its support hardware; and

(2) an appendage that is intended to be an integral part of a motor home, travel trailer, or truck camper and is installed by the manufacturer or dealer which includes, but is not limited to, vents, electrical outlet covers, and window frames.

(B) The total outside width of a vehicle or the load on it may not exceed one hundred two inches exclusive of safety devices approved by the Department of Public Safety.


http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t56c005.php

The width of a pickup truck is 67" excluding rear-view mirrors. Plus 7" on one side for a mirror (opposite to the side the flag may be blowing out) leaves 28" that the flag can project from the other side.

Even if only 4 feet of the 6-foot-long flag can reach beyond the side of the vehicle, that's still 48" and clearly in violation of Section 56-5-4030 of South Carolina law.

What's more:

SECTION 56-5-4050. Side projecting loads on passenger vehicles.

No passenger vehicle shall be operated on any highway with any load carried thereon extending beyond the line of the fenders on the left side of such vehicle nor extending more than six inches beyond the line of the fenders on the right side of such vehicle.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri May 15, 2015 10:08 pm

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Extreme nationalism tends to develop into fascistic governance, racism, and xenophobia, which is frightening.

Well, the U.S. already has experienced racism and xenophobia.

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Postby Atlanticatia » Fri May 15, 2015 10:11 pm

how about people stop driving pickup trucks with giant american flags attached

it looks dumb
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri May 15, 2015 10:14 pm

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Cyrisnia wrote:This ain't Deja Vu. At least not in South Carolina. Taking down a US flag in somewhere like MA or Cali would be deja vu, but this has got to be a first in the South.

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But, seriously, this is definitely NOT the first time an American flag has been taken down in South Carolina. :rofl:


Well, considering what Sherman did to them last time, it is surprising they would try again. :p
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 15, 2015 10:19 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Extreme nationalism tends to develop into fascistic governance, racism, and xenophobia, which is frightening.

Well, the U.S. already has experienced racism and xenophobia.

Already said that, but yes.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 15, 2015 10:20 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
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But, seriously, this is definitely NOT the first time an American flag has been taken down in South Carolina. :rofl:


Well, considering what Sherman did to them last time, it is surprising they would try again. :p

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri May 15, 2015 11:06 pm

Ailiailia wrote:If a highway patroller DID say the flag is street legal, they're wrong.

SECTION 56-5-4030. Width of vehicles.

(A) As contained in this section, "appurtenances" include:

(1) an awning and its support hardware; and

(2) an appendage that is intended to be an integral part of a motor home, travel trailer, or truck camper and is installed by the manufacturer or dealer which includes, but is not limited to, vents, electrical outlet covers, and window frames.

(B) The total outside width of a vehicle or the load on it may not exceed one hundred two inches exclusive of safety devices approved by the Department of Public Safety.


http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t56c005.php

The width of a pickup truck is 67" excluding rear-view mirrors. Plus 7" on one side for a mirror (opposite to the side the flag may be blowing out) leaves 28" that the flag can project from the other side.

Even if only 4 feet of the 6-foot-long flag can reach beyond the side of the vehicle, that's still 48" and clearly in violation of Section 56-5-4030 of South Carolina law.

What's more:

SECTION 56-5-4050. Side projecting loads on passenger vehicles.

No passenger vehicle shall be operated on any highway with any load carried thereon extending beyond the line of the fenders on the left side of such vehicle nor extending more than six inches beyond the line of the fenders on the right side of such vehicle.

I'm going to believe the police on this. They're not going to go on the record with incorrect information.
Apparently the flags aren't considered pat of the vehicle or a load.
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Fri May 15, 2015 11:10 pm

Isn't South Carolina a rebel state? They were probably offended that he flew a Yankee flag.

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Postby New haven america » Fri May 15, 2015 11:13 pm

Source is Dailymail, hence it's probably BS.
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Postby New haven america » Fri May 15, 2015 11:15 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:Isn't South Carolina a rebel state? They were probably offended that he flew a Yankee flag.

That happened over 100 years ago, it's very rare to see that today.

Also, the source is Dailymail, so it's probably bullshit.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri May 15, 2015 11:24 pm

New haven america wrote:Source is Dailymail, hence it's probably BS.


Other sources have been linked. Here's one.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-carol ... ags-truck/

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Postby Nitehawk » Fri May 15, 2015 11:25 pm

We need to start encouraging more nationalism worldwide, particuarly among Europeans and Americans.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri May 15, 2015 11:26 pm

Nitehawk wrote:We need to start encouraging more nationalism worldwide, particuarly among Europeans and Americans.


Nationalism gets people killed, sorry.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 15, 2015 11:27 pm

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Nitehawk wrote:We need to start encouraging more nationalism worldwide, particuarly among Europeans and Americans.


Nationalism gets people killed, sorry.

Yeah, full nationalism in every Western nation would result in white people being a thing of the past within a decade or so.

..or was that his plan all along?
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Postby AiliailiA » Fri May 15, 2015 11:32 pm

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Ailiailia wrote:If a highway patroller DID say the flag is street legal, they're wrong.



http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t56c005.php

The width of a pickup truck is 67" excluding rear-view mirrors. Plus 7" on one side for a mirror (opposite to the side the flag may be blowing out) leaves 28" that the flag can project from the other side.

Even if only 4 feet of the 6-foot-long flag can reach beyond the side of the vehicle, that's still 48" and clearly in violation of Section 56-5-4030 of South Carolina law.

What's more:


I'm going to believe the police on this. They're not going to go on the record with incorrect information.


I have yet to hear quote from any SC police. When I say "a quote" I mean a sentence, in quote marks, from a named officer. And I want that under the name of a journalist too.

Without that, police ARE NOT "on the record".

Apparently the flags aren't considered pat of the vehicle or a load.


Is that according to police?

If so, source it. If not, stop making shit up.
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Postby Nitehawk » Fri May 15, 2015 11:33 pm

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Nitehawk wrote:We need to start encouraging more nationalism worldwide, particuarly among Europeans and Americans.


Nationalism gets people killed, sorry.


Civic nationalism doesn't.
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Fri May 15, 2015 11:47 pm

The Grim Reaper wrote:
Nitehawk wrote:We need to start encouraging more nationalism worldwide, particuarly among Europeans and Americans.


Nationalism gets people killed, sorry.

Internationalism is better. I'd rather unite people under one common banner than divide them with nationalism.

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Postby Devon Teyson » Fri May 15, 2015 11:52 pm

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Nationalism gets people killed, sorry.

Yeah, full nationalism in every Western nation would result in white people being a thing of the past within a decade or so.

..or was that his plan all along?

:rofl: Yeah, it was.
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How exactly did those come about as a result of civic nationalism?
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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
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Nationalism gets people killed, sorry.

Yeah, full nationalism in every Western nation would result in white people being a thing of the past within a decade or so.

..or was that his plan all along?

How?
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat May 16, 2015 12:26 am

Ailiailia wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:I'm going to believe the police on this. They're not going to go on the record with incorrect information.


I have yet to hear quote from any SC police. When I say "a quote" I mean a sentence, in quote marks, from a named officer. And I want that under the name of a journalist too.

Without that, police ARE NOT "on the record".

Apparently the flags aren't considered pat of the vehicle or a load.


Is that according to police?

If so, source it. If not, stop making shit up.

There is no mention in the code whatsoever of flying flags other than warning flags on a moving vehicle.

Since it's not expressly prohibited or banned, this section applies:
SECTION 56-5-4430. Additional parts and accessories not prohibited.

Nothing contained in this article shall be construed to prohibit the use of additional parts and accessories of any vehicle which are not inconsistent with the provisions of this article.

HISTORY: 1962 Code Section 46-513; 1952 Code Section 46-513; 1949 (46) 466.
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