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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:30 am

So I was at the monthly gathering in the town over, where some friends I made learning to fence and I get together in armor and beat each other with practice weapons in a mock tournament. Anywho they found out I was gay today and I ended up being christened the Rainbow Knight, and so ended up wearing a big ass rainbow flag over my armor like a cape/cloak.

It was kind of funny.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:33 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:So I was at the monthly gathering in the town over, where some friends I made learning to fence and I get together in armor and beat each other with practice weapons in a mock tournament. Anywho they found out I was gay today and I ended up being christened the Rainbow Knight, and so ended up wearing a big ass rainbow flag over my armor like a cape/cloak.

It was kind of funny.

Fun.

I used to take fencing. It was actually quite enjoyable, and has potential applications in real life circumstances.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:33 am

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I'm 120 lbs.

When necessary, I fight with condescension and bitter dryness, since I'm not big enough to get physical.

Holy shit.

I should note, though, that I'm pretty dang skinny. Most of my weight comes from the fact that I'm tall and have big bones.


In fairness, I'm 5'7/5'8, and do not have a big frame. It's a family thing.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:39 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Holy shit.

I should note, though, that I'm pretty dang skinny. Most of my weight comes from the fact that I'm tall and have big bones.


In fairness, I'm 5'7/5'8, and do not have a big frame. It's a family thing.

Yup, that'd do it. I'm 6' 2.5", and very broad-shouldered. That, too, is a family thing: my mother's side of the family is big-boned and fairly tall, while my father's side of the family is freakishly tall and, presumably, also probably big-boned (don't really know them, so idk). We are the giants, and do not understand the pixies petite folk.

I mean, honestly. When I realise that some people can't see on top of their fridge, and that they actually need step stools for things, I have to take a moment to come to terms with the bizarreness of it all.

Anyway, we're kind of drifting off-topic. :P
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:40 am

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Holy shit.

I should note, though, that I'm pretty dang skinny. Most of my weight comes from the fact that I'm tall and have big bones.


In fairness, I'm 5'7/5'8, and do not have a big frame. It's a family thing.

Heh, I'm 5'10, with a broad and stocky frame. I may not be particularly tall, but I'm built like an ape otherwise.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:35 am

I worry about dating women, as a trans girl.

Also, on weight.... I'm only about 100 pounds.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:40 am

I'm five feet nine and of a mystery weight - I don't weigh myself because I think that can lead to an unhealthy mindset.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:20 am

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The Serbian Empire wrote:I'm probably the heaviest of our trans population on NSG by a fairly significant margin. Probably safe to say I could shed another 30 to 45 pounds, but hormones would have to carry me the rest of the way.


I'm 250.

And I thought I was heaviest. :palm:
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:48 am

Val Halla wrote:I worry about dating women, as a trans girl.

Well, I don't think you should worry about it too much, but considering that trans women have, historically, often been excluded from the lesbian community, you do have good reason to do so. (And I would say the same applies to trans men and the gay community.)

I mean, they're getting much better, I think -- most of the cis queer people I know are pretty good allies to trans people -- but still, transphobia is definitely not unheard of among gay and lesbian people.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:57 am

Val Halla wrote:I worry about dating women, as a trans girl.

Also, on weight.... I'm only about 100 pounds.

Damn, two Callies won't even equal one Marisa in mass. I also worry a bit about dating although it's probably a lot less likely we'd run into transphobes who resort to actual violence. However, the most likely culprit would be the TERF such as Chessmistress.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:00 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I worry about dating women, as a trans girl.

Well, I don't think you should worry about it too much, but considering that trans women have, historically, often been excluded from the lesbian community, you do have good reason to do so. (And I would say the same applies to trans men and the gay community.)

I mean, they're getting much better, I think -- most of the cis queer people I know are pretty good allies to trans people -- but still, transphobia is definitely not unheard of among gay and lesbian people.

I don't wanna just be attractive to bi/pansexuals. :(
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Postby Confederate Ramenia » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:02 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:So I was at the monthly gathering in the town over, where some friends I made learning to fence and I get together in armor and beat each other with practice weapons in a mock tournament. Anywho they found out I was gay today and I ended up being christened the Rainbow Knight, and so ended up wearing a big ass rainbow flag over my armor like a cape/cloak.

It was kind of funny.

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So I was all up in tha monthly gatherin up in tha hood over, where some playaz I made peepin' ta fence n' I git together up in armor n' beat each other wit practice weapons up in a mock tournament fo' realz. Anywho they found up I was gay todizzle n' I ended up bein christened tha Rainbow Knight, n' so ended up bustin a funky-ass big-ass ass rainbow flag over mah armor like a cold-ass lil cape/cloak.

Dat shiznit was kind of funky.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:04 am

Val Halla wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Well, I don't think you should worry about it too much, but considering that trans women have, historically, often been excluded from the lesbian community, you do have good reason to do so. (And I would say the same applies to trans men and the gay community.)

I mean, they're getting much better, I think -- most of the cis queer people I know are pretty good allies to trans people -- but still, transphobia is definitely not unheard of among gay and lesbian people.

I don't wanna just be attractive to bi/pansexuals. :(

I have come up with a selling point to any lesbian who wants biological children with saving sperm and then have the surgery and hormones as to make me female at least appearance wise.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:06 am

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Val Halla wrote:I don't wanna just be attractive to bi/pansexuals. :(

I have come up with a selling point to any lesbian who wants biological children with saving sperm and then have the surgery and hormones as to make me female at least appearance wise.

I'd only have kids if the partner really wanted them.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:09 am

Val Halla wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Well, I don't think you should worry about it too much, but considering that trans women have, historically, often been excluded from the lesbian community, you do have good reason to do so. (And I would say the same applies to trans men and the gay community.)

I mean, they're getting much better, I think -- most of the cis queer people I know are pretty good allies to trans people -- but still, transphobia is definitely not unheard of among gay and lesbian people.

I don't wanna just be attractive to bi/pansexuals. :(

Oh, trust me, there are lots of lesbians attracted to trans women, just as there are lots of straight men attracted to trans women. (Personally, one of my best lesbian friends has said that she finds trans women quite attractive.) That said, some lesbians are simply not attracted to most trans women (which is perfectly fine, because everyone has personal preferences), some are transphobic, and I would say that a problem arises with lesbians who are protective of their identity and/or "gold star" status and don't want to lose that by dating/having sex with a trans women (especially not one with a penis).
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Postby A Shadow Out Of Time » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:10 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:So I was at the monthly gathering in the town over, where some friends I made learning to fence and I get together in armor and beat each other with practice weapons in a mock tournament. Anywho they found out I was gay today and I ended up being christened the Rainbow Knight, and so ended up wearing a big ass rainbow flag over my armor like a cape/cloak.

It was kind of funny.

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Postby Val Halla » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:12 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I don't wanna just be attractive to bi/pansexuals. :(

Oh, trust me, there are lots of lesbians attracted to trans women, just as there are lots of straight men attracted to trans women. (Personally, one of my best lesbian friends has said that she finds trans women quite attractive.) That said, some lesbians are simply not attracted to most trans women (which is perfectly fine, because everyone has personal preferences), some are transphobic, and I would say that a problem arises with lesbians who are protective of their identity and/or "gold star" status and don't want to lose that by dating/having sex with a trans women (especially not one with a penis).

It makes sense, but lesbians or straight men don't tend to be fond of what's down there. That worries me most. Are you still doing the fund?
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:12 am

Val Halla wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:I have come up with a selling point to any lesbian who wants biological children with saving sperm and then have the surgery and hormones as to make me female at least appearance wise.

I'd only have kids if the partner really wanted them.

Same. I'm not really eager to jump into parenthood, well, ever. I can experience the joy of children in my brother's children (which he's likely going to have, though it's hard to tell at this point since he's only eight).
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:16 am

Val Halla wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:I have come up with a selling point to any lesbian who wants biological children with saving sperm and then have the surgery and hormones as to make me female at least appearance wise.

I'd only have kids if the partner really wanted them.

At the same time, both parties must find the other attractive.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:16 am

Val Halla wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Oh, trust me, there are lots of lesbians attracted to trans women, just as there are lots of straight men attracted to trans women. (Personally, one of my best lesbian friends has said that she finds trans women quite attractive.) That said, some lesbians are simply not attracted to most trans women (which is perfectly fine, because everyone has personal preferences), some are transphobic, and I would say that a problem arises with lesbians who are protective of their identity and/or "gold star" status and don't want to lose that by dating/having sex with a trans women (especially not one with a penis).

It makes sense, but lesbians or straight men don't tend to be fond of what's down there. That worries me most.

Indeed. That said, that's not the case for everyone.

Val Halla wrote:Are you still doing the fund?

Yup! Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about it, and I still work on it in my spare time. The problem is that I've recently gotten a full-time job (I start between 8:30 and 9:00 and end between 5:00 and 6:00 every weekday, and it's exhausting because I'm taking care of several children on my own), so I haven't had much time at all. However! I have this coming week off, so I should be able to work on it much more, and hopefully complete it! ^_^
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:20 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Val Halla wrote:It makes sense, but lesbians or straight men don't tend to be fond of what's down there. That worries me most.

Indeed. That said, that's not the case for everyone.

Val Halla wrote:Are you still doing the fund?

Yup! Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about it, and I still work on it in my spare time. The problem is that I've recently gotten a full-time job (I start between 8:30 and 9:00 and end between 5:00 and 6:00 every weekday, and it's exhausting because I'm taking care of several children on my own), so I haven't had much time at all. However! I have this coming week off, so I should be able to work on it much more, and hopefully complete it! ^_^

Ok, because I know it'll be a long time before the surgery (5 years?), if I can ever afford it.

It's getting in the US too. Having relatives would help, but they're in Florida, so.... Also, I need to try and sneak out. It's hard to sneak off with thousands of dollars, and all my valuble possessions and papers etc
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:23 am

Val Halla wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Indeed. That said, that's not the case for everyone.


Yup! Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about it, and I still work on it in my spare time. The problem is that I've recently gotten a full-time job (I start between 8:30 and 9:00 and end between 5:00 and 6:00 every weekday, and it's exhausting because I'm taking care of several children on my own), so I haven't had much time at all. However! I have this coming week off, so I should be able to work on it much more, and hopefully complete it! ^_^

Ok, because I know it'll be a long time before the surgery (5 years?), if I can ever afford it.

It's getting in the US too. Having relatives would help, but they're in Florida, so.... Also, I need to try and sneak out. It's hard to sneak off with thousands of dollars, and all my valuble possessions and papers etc

It's going to be very hard to sneak off with all of that.
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Postby Confederate Ramenia » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:32 am

The Nuclear Fist wrote:So I was at the monthly gathering in the town over, where some friends I made learning to fence and I get together in armor and beat each other with practice weapons in a mock tournament. Anywho they found out I was gay today and I ended up being christened the Rainbow Knight, and so ended up wearing a big ass rainbow flag over my armor like a cape/cloak.

It was kind of funny.

How did they find out that you were gay?
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Postby Egoman » Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:04 am

I bastardized a straight pride flag again. Whoops. It reads 'true marriage' on the bottom in Finnish and it used to have a nuclear family on it. Welp, not anymore it doesn't.
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You know how bigots say that Gay marriage will ruin marriage and cause people to divorce? Well, have any of you ever heard of self-fulfilled prophecy?
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