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Postby Heraklea- » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:22 pm

Proof that Reform Judaism is probably the best religion around. Or at least the most for forward thinking and progressive.

I would just like to say a big congratulation to the Union for Reform Judaism, the largest community of Jews in North America, in adopting what is being described as the most comprehensive statement of support for the transgender community from any faith organization in the world. The Resolution on the Rights of Transgender and Gender Non-Conforming People was adopted by a unanimous voice vote at the URJ biennial national convention, which is being held in Orlando, FL this year.

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Union for Reform Judaism:

  1. Affirms its commitment to the full equality, inclusion and acceptance of people of all gender identities and gender expressions;
  2. Affirms the right of transgender and gender non-conforming individuals to be referred to by their name, gender, and pronoun of preference in our congregations, camps, schools, and other Reform affiliated organizations;
  3. Encourages Reform congregations, congregants, clergy, camps, institutions and affiliates, including NFTY, to continue to advocate for the rights of people of all gender identities and gender expressions;
  4. Urges the adoption and implementation of legislation and policies that prevent discrimination based on gender identity and expression, and that require individuals to be treated equally under the law as the gender by which they identify. This includes establishing the right to change without undue burden their identification documents to reflect their gender and name and ensuring equal access to medical and social services;
  5. Calls on the U.S. and Canadian governments at all levels to review and revise all laws and policies to ensure full equality and protections for people of all gender identities and expressions;
  6. Urges Reform Movement institutions to begin or continue to work with local and national Jewish transgender, lesbian, gay and bisexual organizations to create inclusive and welcoming communities for people of all gender identities and expressions and to spread awareness and increase knowledge of issues related to gender identity and expression. These activities may include cultural competency trainings for religious school staff, the new congregational resource guide on transgender inclusion being created by the Religious Action Center, education programs on gender identity and expression, and sermons on the topic of gender identity and gender expression;
  7. Recommends URJ congregations and Reform Movement institutions, facilities and events ensure, to the extent feasible, the availability of gender-neutral restrooms and other physical site needs that ensure dignity and safety for transgender and gender non-conforming individuals;
  8. Urges Reform Movement institutions to review their use of language in prayers, forms and policies in an effort to ensure people of all gender identities and gender expressions are welcomed, included, accepted and respected. This includes developing statements of inclusion and/or non-discrimination policies pertaining to gender identity and gender expression, the use when feasible of gender-neutral language, and offering more than two gender options or eliminating the need to select a gender on forms; and
  9. Will work in collaboration with other Reform Movement institutions to create ritual, programmatic and educational materials that will empower such institutions to be more inclusive and welcoming of people of all gender identities and expressions.

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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:23 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Sigmund (I can't spell his last name) did say that he thought almost all of the population was bisexual and that bisexual was the natural state of humans


That's total shit though. I'm as straight as they come.


It's total shit, but only because Freud was practically wrong about everything.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:35 am

The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
That's total shit though. I'm as straight as they come.


It's total shit, but only because Freud was practically wrong about everything.


But maybe that is the one thing he was right about :P
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:40 am

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The Alexanderians wrote:They don't already have it there?


Japan is kind of like the Germany of Asia. And not just for the WWII comparisons (though, certainly, that war probably has something to do with the two being so similar).

They're both considered very progressive places, but in reality, are quite behind their allies. For instance, IIRC, same sex marriage still isn't a thing in Germany, either.

The only real difference, obvious cultural differences aside, is that women in Japan are still more or less second-class (women-only train cars are a thing, because of lolhigh gropings and rapings), and racial discrimination is still totally a thing in Japan.

Yeah the racial thing still happens, one of my friends grew up there and she more or less confirmed what you said. With a slightly different take on the situation of women.
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Postby The republic of Kosh Naranek » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:28 pm

Kannap wrote:
The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:
It's total shit, but only because Freud was practically wrong about everything.


But maybe that is the one thing he was right about :P


Yeah, possibly.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:40 pm

Heraklea- wrote:Proof that Reform Judaism is probably the best religion around. Or at least the most for forward thinking and progressive.

I would just like to say a big congratulation to the Union for Reform Judaism, the largest community of Jews in North America, in adopting what is being described as the most comprehensive statement of support for the transgender community from any faith organization in the world. The Resolution on the Rights of Transgender and Gender Non-Conforming People was adopted by a unanimous voice vote at the URJ biennial national convention, which is being held in Orlando, FL this year.

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Union for Reform Judaism:

  1. Affirms its commitment to the full equality, inclusion and acceptance of people of all gender identities and gender expressions;
  2. Affirms the right of transgender and gender non-conforming individuals to be referred to by their name, gender, and pronoun of preference in our congregations, camps, schools, and other Reform affiliated organizations;
  3. Encourages Reform congregations, congregants, clergy, camps, institutions and affiliates, including NFTY, to continue to advocate for the rights of people of all gender identities and gender expressions;
  4. Urges the adoption and implementation of legislation and policies that prevent discrimination based on gender identity and expression, and that require individuals to be treated equally under the law as the gender by which they identify. This includes establishing the right to change without undue burden their identification documents to reflect their gender and name and ensuring equal access to medical and social services;
  5. Calls on the U.S. and Canadian governments at all levels to review and revise all laws and policies to ensure full equality and protections for people of all gender identities and expressions;
  6. Urges Reform Movement institutions to begin or continue to work with local and national Jewish transgender, lesbian, gay and bisexual organizations to create inclusive and welcoming communities for people of all gender identities and expressions and to spread awareness and increase knowledge of issues related to gender identity and expression. These activities may include cultural competency trainings for religious school staff, the new congregational resource guide on transgender inclusion being created by the Religious Action Center, education programs on gender identity and expression, and sermons on the topic of gender identity and gender expression;
  7. Recommends URJ congregations and Reform Movement institutions, facilities and events ensure, to the extent feasible, the availability of gender-neutral restrooms and other physical site needs that ensure dignity and safety for transgender and gender non-conforming individuals;
  8. Urges Reform Movement institutions to review their use of language in prayers, forms and policies in an effort to ensure people of all gender identities and gender expressions are welcomed, included, accepted and respected. This includes developing statements of inclusion and/or non-discrimination policies pertaining to gender identity and gender expression, the use when feasible of gender-neutral language, and offering more than two gender options or eliminating the need to select a gender on forms; and
  9. Will work in collaboration with other Reform Movement institutions to create ritual, programmatic and educational materials that will empower such institutions to be more inclusive and welcoming of people of all gender identities and expressions.

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Postby The republic of Kosh Naranek » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:48 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Heraklea- wrote:Proof that Reform Judaism is probably the best religion around. Or at least the most for forward thinking and progressive.

I would just like to say a big congratulation to the Union for Reform Judaism, the largest community of Jews in North America, in adopting what is being described as the most comprehensive statement of support for the transgender community from any faith organization in the world. The Resolution on the Rights of Transgender and Gender Non-Conforming People was adopted by a unanimous voice vote at the URJ biennial national convention, which is being held in Orlando, FL this year.

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Union for Reform Judaism:

  1. Affirms its commitment to the full equality, inclusion and acceptance of people of all gender identities and gender expressions;
  2. Affirms the right of transgender and gender non-conforming individuals to be referred to by their name, gender, and pronoun of preference in our congregations, camps, schools, and other Reform affiliated organizations;
  3. Encourages Reform congregations, congregants, clergy, camps, institutions and affiliates, including NFTY, to continue to advocate for the rights of people of all gender identities and gender expressions;
  4. Urges the adoption and implementation of legislation and policies that prevent discrimination based on gender identity and expression, and that require individuals to be treated equally under the law as the gender by which they identify. This includes establishing the right to change without undue burden their identification documents to reflect their gender and name and ensuring equal access to medical and social services;
  5. Calls on the U.S. and Canadian governments at all levels to review and revise all laws and policies to ensure full equality and protections for people of all gender identities and expressions;
  6. Urges Reform Movement institutions to begin or continue to work with local and national Jewish transgender, lesbian, gay and bisexual organizations to create inclusive and welcoming communities for people of all gender identities and expressions and to spread awareness and increase knowledge of issues related to gender identity and expression. These activities may include cultural competency trainings for religious school staff, the new congregational resource guide on transgender inclusion being created by the Religious Action Center, education programs on gender identity and expression, and sermons on the topic of gender identity and gender expression;
  7. Recommends URJ congregations and Reform Movement institutions, facilities and events ensure, to the extent feasible, the availability of gender-neutral restrooms and other physical site needs that ensure dignity and safety for transgender and gender non-conforming individuals;
  8. Urges Reform Movement institutions to review their use of language in prayers, forms and policies in an effort to ensure people of all gender identities and gender expressions are welcomed, included, accepted and respected. This includes developing statements of inclusion and/or non-discrimination policies pertaining to gender identity and gender expression, the use when feasible of gender-neutral language, and offering more than two gender options or eliminating the need to select a gender on forms; and
  9. Will work in collaboration with other Reform Movement institutions to create ritual, programmatic and educational materials that will empower such institutions to be more inclusive and welcoming of people of all gender identities and expressions.

I've been considering switching to Reform Judaism as of late, as I think I'm done with Christianity and all those bible bashers

Well I was born into Reform Judaism, and frankly, it's very tolerant and welcoming of minorities and majorities.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:03 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Heraklea- wrote:Proof that Reform Judaism is probably the best religion around. Or at least the most for forward thinking and progressive.

I would just like to say a big congratulation to the Union for Reform Judaism, the largest community of Jews in North America, in adopting what is being described as the most comprehensive statement of support for the transgender community from any faith organization in the world. The Resolution on the Rights of Transgender and Gender Non-Conforming People was adopted by a unanimous voice vote at the URJ biennial national convention, which is being held in Orlando, FL this year.

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Union for Reform Judaism:

  1. Affirms its commitment to the full equality, inclusion and acceptance of people of all gender identities and gender expressions;
  2. Affirms the right of transgender and gender non-conforming individuals to be referred to by their name, gender, and pronoun of preference in our congregations, camps, schools, and other Reform affiliated organizations;
  3. Encourages Reform congregations, congregants, clergy, camps, institutions and affiliates, including NFTY, to continue to advocate for the rights of people of all gender identities and gender expressions;
  4. Urges the adoption and implementation of legislation and policies that prevent discrimination based on gender identity and expression, and that require individuals to be treated equally under the law as the gender by which they identify. This includes establishing the right to change without undue burden their identification documents to reflect their gender and name and ensuring equal access to medical and social services;
  5. Calls on the U.S. and Canadian governments at all levels to review and revise all laws and policies to ensure full equality and protections for people of all gender identities and expressions;
  6. Urges Reform Movement institutions to begin or continue to work with local and national Jewish transgender, lesbian, gay and bisexual organizations to create inclusive and welcoming communities for people of all gender identities and expressions and to spread awareness and increase knowledge of issues related to gender identity and expression. These activities may include cultural competency trainings for religious school staff, the new congregational resource guide on transgender inclusion being created by the Religious Action Center, education programs on gender identity and expression, and sermons on the topic of gender identity and gender expression;
  7. Recommends URJ congregations and Reform Movement institutions, facilities and events ensure, to the extent feasible, the availability of gender-neutral restrooms and other physical site needs that ensure dignity and safety for transgender and gender non-conforming individuals;
  8. Urges Reform Movement institutions to review their use of language in prayers, forms and policies in an effort to ensure people of all gender identities and gender expressions are welcomed, included, accepted and respected. This includes developing statements of inclusion and/or non-discrimination policies pertaining to gender identity and gender expression, the use when feasible of gender-neutral language, and offering more than two gender options or eliminating the need to select a gender on forms; and
  9. Will work in collaboration with other Reform Movement institutions to create ritual, programmatic and educational materials that will empower such institutions to be more inclusive and welcoming of people of all gender identities and expressions.

I've been considering switching to Reform Judaism as of late, as I think I'm done with Christianity and all those bible bashers

If you're tired of conservative Christianity, hop on over to the Angelican Church (Or Episcopalian, if you live here in the States), it's Catholic, but without the Pope, and quite liberal as well as LGBT friendly. I converted after growing out of my right-wing views on sexuality and marriage.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:41 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I've been considering switching to Reform Judaism as of late, as I think I'm done with Christianity and all those bible bashers

If you're tired of conservative Christianity, hop on over to the Angelican Church (Or Episcopalian, if you live here in the States), it's Catholic, but without the Pope, and quite liberal as well as LGBT friendly. I converted after growing out of my right-wing views on sexuality and marriage.

Im curently an episcopal but unfortunately I live with my ultra conseverative Catholic family who constantly say I'm wrong for being gay and not catholic
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Postby Kannap » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:11 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:If you're tired of conservative Christianity, hop on over to the Angelican Church (Or Episcopalian, if you live here in the States), it's Catholic, but without the Pope, and quite liberal as well as LGBT friendly. I converted after growing out of my right-wing views on sexuality and marriage.

Im curently an episcopal but unfortunately I live with my ultra conseverative Catholic family who constantly say I'm wrong for being gay and not catholic


Because quite clearly you can't be gay AND Catholic.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:19 pm

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Wisconsin9 wrote:Maybe they got a cheaper chef, or it was only the vegetarian options that were ass.

Mind you, I'd gladly endure the food again if it meant I got another tour. The test stands were fucking awesome. Hell, even the welding area was pretty fucking cool.


We didn't get those when I went. Then again, I was 10.

Also, there's where you went wrong. Vegetarian. The best shit was the meat. Other than the biscuits. Then again, having had to eat MREs and school cafeteria food probably made Marshall's stuff seem better in comparison.

It could be because it was Space Camp, though, because that's not technically a NASA thing, right? We were there as part of one of their outreach programs.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:26 pm

Kannap wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Im curently an episcopal but unfortunately I live with my ultra conseverative Catholic family who constantly say I'm wrong for being gay and not catholic


Because quite clearly you can't be gay AND Catholic.

Well they want me to live a no sex life and they are part of the Catholics that hate the current pope.
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Thermodolia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Because quite clearly you can't be gay AND Catholic.

Well they want me to live a no sex life and they are part of the Catholics that hate the current pope.


I thought all the Catholics who hated the Pope were Anglican.
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Postby Socialist Czechia » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:30 pm

it doesn't make sense to me, why like majority of countries still refuses to allow adoption for gay couples. even countries which recognizes gay couples as official couples.
there should be law and directives, that anyone, even single individual, can adopt a children, without much bureaucracy.

i mean, every orphan is just awful burden for the State, so every state should be glad that someone wants to adopt any kid :P
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:34 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Well they want me to live a no sex life and they are part of the Catholics that hate the current pope.


I thought all the Catholics who hated the Pope were Anglican.

Not really. Mostly it's the conservatives and sedevaticans.
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Socialist Czechia wrote:it doesn't make sense to me, why like majority of countries still refuses to allow adoption for gay couples. even countries which recognizes gay couples as official couples.
there should be law and directives, that anyone, even single individual, can adopt a children, without much bureaucracy.

i mean, every orphan is just awful burden for the State, so every state should be glad that someone wants to adopt any kid :P


And the kids themselves, I think they'd much rather prefer to have a parent or parents who love them rather than be a ward of the state. I doubt they'd much care if the parents were gay or straight.
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Reagan-land wrote:Every thing but marriage

And your reasoning for that is...?
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Kannap wrote:
I thought all the Catholics who hated the Pope were Anglican.

Not really. Mostly it's the conservatives and sedevaticans.


So the ones that I don't care about, boo hoo for them.

From what I have heard about the Pope, he sounds awesome.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:37 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:Not really. Mostly it's the conservatives and sedevaticans.


So the ones that I don't care about, boo hoo for them.

From what I have heard about the Pope, he sounds awesome.

Oh I think he's awesome, he's brought the Catholics into the 1900s
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Postby Kannap » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:41 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
So the ones that I don't care about, boo hoo for them.

From what I have heard about the Pope, he sounds awesome.

Oh I think he's awesome, he's brought the Catholics into the 1900s


Now for the next Pope to bring you guys into the 2000s.

Let me be the next Pope, I'm a good Presbyterian.
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Postby The republic of Kosh Naranek » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:44 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Oh I think he's awesome, he's brought the Catholics into the 1900s


Now for the next Pope to bring you guys into the 2000s.

Let me be the next Pope, I'm a good Presbyterian.


Well, the Pope is a Catholic position.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:44 pm

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Socialist Czechia wrote:it doesn't make sense to me, why like majority of countries still refuses to allow adoption for gay couples. even countries which recognizes gay couples as official couples.
there should be law and directives, that anyone, even single individual, can adopt a children, without much bureaucracy.

i mean, every orphan is just awful burden for the State, so every state should be glad that someone wants to adopt any kid :P


And the kids themselves, I think they'd much rather prefer to have a parent or parents who love them rather than be a ward of the state. I doubt they'd much care if the parents were gay or straight.

If I was a orphan I wouldn't give two shits if the parents were gay or straight
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Postby Kannap » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:45 pm

The republic of Kosh Naranek wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Now for the next Pope to bring you guys into the 2000s.

Let me be the next Pope, I'm a good Presbyterian.


Well, the Pope is a Catholic position.


You guys need to break history. Have the first non-Catholic Pope, us Americans finally had the first non-white President.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:45 pm

Kannap wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Oh I think he's awesome, he's brought the Catholics into the 1900s


Now for the next Pope to bring you guys into the 2000s.

Let me be the next Pope, I'm a good Presbyterian.

Well I'm not catholic, my family is but not me.
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