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Postby Transnapastain » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:07 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Don't feed them.

It's to hard not to!


Try harder.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:15 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It's to hard not to!


Try harder.

Will do.
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Postby Scanzian Freehold » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:28 pm

Re: Gay Dust

So would rave glitter just be a placebo for real "Gay Dust?" Because I swear I've seen it work...

*although in retrospect that could have just been all the ...Other chemicals...*
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Postby The Hobbesian Metaphysician » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:31 am

Transnapastain wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It's to hard not to!


Try harder.

Impossible.
I am just going to lay it out here, I am going to be very blunt.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:34 am

Scanzian Freehold wrote:Re: Gay Dust

So would rave glitter just be a placebo for real "Gay Dust?" Because I swear I've seen it work...

*although in retrospect that could have just been all the ...Other chemicals...*

Hey nothing wrong with using some "other chemicals" to help them along. :p
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Postby Tmutarakhan » Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:31 am

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New confederate ramenia wrote:How does that work?

I have no idea, I think they recognize SSM as legal from other countries, just not in their own?

Israel recognizes any marriage from other countries that was legally performed in that country; but only religious authorities can perform marriages in Israel. A mixed Muslim-Jewish couple cannot be married in Israel, and would fly to Cyprus to get married there, but there are far more common cases: Jews who are not recognized as sufficiently Jewish by the Orthodox rabbis who control religious marriage, or who are just too secular-minded to put up with all the foofara of a religious ceremony, likewise fly to Cyprus.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:59 am

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Thermodolia wrote:There was a reason to in the first place?


I've got something of my dad's fascination with the Apollo program and its antecedents.


As an aspiring aerospace engineer, so do I. I've seen Apollo 13 at least a dozen times.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:03 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I've got something of my dad's fascination with the Apollo program and its antecedents.

To bad none of NASA is in the good parts of the USA, instead of Texas, Alabama, and Florida.


A tragedy of geography, really (you also forgot Louisiana and Mississippi). Florida is really the only decent place in the continental US to launch rockets, and thus, all of the other facilities being in proximity to FL makes sense (Michoud and Stennis, in particular, especially Michoud, given that it manufactures things like the Shuttle External Tank, which can only be shipped by water). So you've really gotta feel for the NASA employees and families who are queer.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:05 pm

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The whole thing was wrapped up in scare stories about how we're all sexual predators looking to break into women's bathrooms to rape the people inside. People don't question emotional narratives like that.

If sexual predators wanted to rape women in the bathrooms they wouldn't wait for a damn law. Or as the conservatives say criminals aren't going to obey laws in first place, so what's going to stop them.


Silly Thermodolia, that logic only works for guns!
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:06 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Been to Huntsville?

I went in the spring. Absolutely awesome, except for the shitty food in Marshall's cafeteria.

Anyway, Goddard and JPL are in decent parts of the country. Not great, mabe, but better than Texas or Alabama.


I went to Marshall for Space Camp, like almost immediately after Katrina. Had the time of my life. And the food was fucking amazing.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:07 pm

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:11 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:I went in the spring. Absolutely awesome, except for the shitty food in Marshall's cafeteria.

Anyway, Goddard and JPL are in decent parts of the country. Not great, mabe, but better than Texas or Alabama.


I went to Marshall for Space Camp, like almost immediately after Katrina. Had the time of my life. And the food was fucking amazing.

Maybe they got a cheaper chef, or it was only the vegetarian options that were ass.

Mind you, I'd gladly endure the food again if it meant I got another tour. The test stands were fucking awesome. Hell, even the welding area was pretty fucking cool.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:12 pm

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The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:So /r/atheism got trolled by a satire story about pat robertson. It looks like NSG has as well. Good job.

Well with all the batshit things he's said over the years, It's not far from the truth.


^Truth. Considering this is the same man who once claimed that queer people have rings with tiny needles on them that are designed to poke people when they shake hands, and infect them with HIV, its not that outrageous of a leap to think he'd start to go Shitler on us.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:56 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:If gravity is real why don't the planets fall down?


They do, the earth is always falling toward the sun...and missing. It needs better aim.


Douglas Adams once wrote that 'flying is the art of falling and missing the ground'. He was wrong. He was really talking about orbiting.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:01 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Civil partnerships in Japan. They only count for hospitals and housing, but it's a step.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34731870

They don't already have it there?


Japan is kind of like the Germany of Asia. And not just for the WWII comparisons (though, certainly, that war probably has something to do with the two being so similar).

They're both considered very progressive places, but in reality, are quite behind their allies. For instance, IIRC, same sex marriage still isn't a thing in Germany, either.

The only real difference, obvious cultural differences aside, is that women in Japan are still more or less second-class (women-only train cars are a thing, because of lolhigh gropings and rapings), and racial discrimination is still totally a thing in Japan.
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Postby Zottistan » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:06 pm

Grenartia wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:They don't already have it there?


Japan is kind of like the Germany of Asia. And not just for the WWII comparisons (though, certainly, that war probably has something to do with the two being so similar).

They're both considered very progressive places, but in reality, are quite behind their allies. For instance, IIRC, same sex marriage still isn't a thing in Germany, either.

The only real difference, obvious cultural differences aside, is that women in Japan are still more or less second-class (women-only train cars are a thing, because of lolhigh gropings and rapings), and racial discrimination is still totally a thing in Japan.

As I recall Japan still has a caste of untouchables. Burakumin.
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Postby Heidenheim » Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:31 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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Nah, gravity holds you down.


Gravity is an attractive force, not a downward one.


So gravity is sexy?

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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:32 pm

Heidenheim wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Gravity is an attractive force, not a downward one.


So gravity is sexy?

They're the sexiest when they're black holes.

Take that in whichever context you want.
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Postby Terminus Alpha » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:09 pm

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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:38 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I went to Marshall for Space Camp, like almost immediately after Katrina. Had the time of my life. And the food was fucking amazing.

Maybe they got a cheaper chef, or it was only the vegetarian options that were ass.

Mind you, I'd gladly endure the food again if it meant I got another tour. The test stands were fucking awesome. Hell, even the welding area was pretty fucking cool.


We didn't get those when I went. Then again, I was 10.

Also, there's where you went wrong. Vegetarian. The best shit was the meat. Other than the biscuits. Then again, having had to eat MREs and school cafeteria food probably made Marshall's stuff seem better in comparison.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:09 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:If sexual predators wanted to rape women in the bathrooms they wouldn't wait for a damn law. Or as the conservatives say criminals aren't going to obey laws in first place, so what's going to stop them.


Silly Thermodolia, that logic only works for guns!

Whoops my bad
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Postby Kraylandia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:17 pm

Tmutarakhan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I have no idea, I think they recognize SSM as legal from other countries, just not in their own?

Israel recognizes any marriage from other countries that was legally performed in that country; but only religious authorities can perform marriages in Israel. A mixed Muslim-Jewish couple cannot be married in Israel, and would fly to Cyprus to get married there, but there are far more common cases: Jews who are not recognized as sufficiently Jewish by the Orthodox rabbis who control religious marriage, or who are just too secular-minded to put up with all the foofara of a religious ceremony, likewise fly to Cyprus.


And you don't think that's unfair? Israel just proving once again it's a shithole.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:24 pm


Sigmund (I can't spell his last name) did say that he thought almost all of the population was bisexual and that bisexual was the natural state of humans
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Postby Kraylandia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:30 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

Sigmund (I can't spell his last name) did say that he thought almost all of the population was bisexual and that bisexual was the natural state of humans


That's total shit though. I'm as straight as they come.
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:56 pm


It's interesting, and I recognise that they have noble intentions, but I'm not sure their method is reliable. Measuring pupil dilation has previously been used in Canada to determine whether civil servants were gay, but the methodology was deeply flawed. I don't know what changes they've made in this study, but it could contain many of the same flaws.

Also, I can foresee homophobes using studies like this to "prove" that conversion therapy works ("see, no one's 100% gay, so they have the potential to be straight!"). Not to mention that the people conducting the study seem to be ignoring the existence of asexual people.
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