LGBT Rights & Issues Thread, V3

[United Marxist Nations]

Hope you realize a fairy, and a god are two different things.

Now a fairy god is actually something pretty bad to say derisively. Because it summons an eldritch abomination which slaps you so hard your body literally turns into white, and gold ash.

I assure you it is quite agonizing so therefore I will intervene, and let them slumber once more.

Fairies and Gods have a lot in common. Namely, theyre both fake.

We get it, you're an atheist and hate religion.

[Benuty]

Hope you realize a fairy, and a god are two different things.

Now a fairy god is actually something pretty bad to say derisively. Because it summons an eldritch abomination which slaps you so hard your body literally turns into white, and gold ash.

I assure you it is quite agonizing so therefore I will intervene, and let them slumber once more.

Fairies and Gods have a lot in common. Namely, theyre both fake.

Actually I assure you they are very real.

Who do you think devours the souls of the dead left with nothing to appease them?

Fairies do, and by devour I mean parasitically use them to fuel their excessive lifestyles. Magic, and their immortality have to come from somewhere.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Sure, they are - as long as they are in a tolerant community and their local church is tolerant. Otherwise, it's likely faux devotion just to make it so that they don't get outcasted. Unless your Church allows gay marriages and your local community is all-liberal and you're the only conservative, I highly doubt they are forcing themselves to be repressed, depressed, and 'devoted' with the devotion being real.

They are perfectly capable; it just depends on the situation whether it is real, or fake.

So, you're basically saying that LGBT people can't devote themselves to what they think is right at their temporary expense. It sounds to me like you just have a really low opinion of them. Plus, the one I consider a saint (Fr. Seraphim Rose) was a convert. Plus, we have them on NSG, Dio is a good example.

Self hatred is a good thing now? Yeah. Totally. 100% Healthy.

[Benuty]

Fairies and Gods have a lot in common. Namely, theyre both fake.

We get it, you're an atheist and hate religion.

Even Dawkins knew when to quit.

Well they used to, but now they cannot stop digging their own grave on twiiter. Thankfully Donald Trump has completely overshadowed Dawkins in that regards.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Fairies and Gods have a lot in common. Namely, theyre both fake.

We get it, you're an atheist and hate religion.

Is that supposed to get me to shut up? Magic words or something? Ooh let me try it!

We get it, your fanatically religious and hate LGBT people.

Does that work?

[United Marxist Nations]

So, you're basically saying that LGBT people can't devote themselves to what they think is right at their temporary expense. It sounds to me like you just have a really low opinion of them. Plus, the one I consider a saint (Fr. Seraphim Rose) was a convert. Plus, we have them on NSG, Dio is a good example.

Self hatred is a good thing now? Yeah. Totally. 100% Healthy.

>Religious devotion is now self hate
Nice reading comprehension there.

[The V O I D]

Sure, they are - as long as they are in a tolerant community and their local church is tolerant. Otherwise, it's likely faux devotion just to make it so that they don't get outcasted. Unless your Church allows gay marriages and your local community is all-liberal and you're the only conservative, I highly doubt they are forcing themselves to be repressed, depressed, and 'devoted' with the devotion being real.

They are perfectly capable; it just depends on the situation whether it is real, or fake.

So, you're basically saying that LGBT people can't devote themselves to what they think is right at their temporary expense. It sounds to me like you just have a really low opinion of them. Plus, the one I consider a saint (Fr. Seraphim Rose) was a convert. Plus, we have them on NSG, Dio is a good example.

I do not have a low opinion of them. I am just stating the facts. Repression never works. It can look like it does, but illusions tend to look like they work.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

We get it, you're an atheist and hate religion.

Even Dawkins knew when to quit.

Well they used to, but now they cannot stop digging their own grave on twiiter. Thankfully Donald Trump has completely overshadowed Dawkins in that regards.

If religion ruined your life you wouldn't think too kindly of it.

[Benuty]

So, you're basically saying that LGBT people can't devote themselves to what they think is right at their temporary expense. It sounds to me like you just have a really low opinion of them. Plus, the one I consider a saint (Fr. Seraphim Rose) was a convert. Plus, we have them on NSG, Dio is a good example.

Self hatred is a good thing now? Yeah. Totally. 100% Healthy.

Well I suppose it is good if one is a masochist, but regardless.

[United Marxist Nations]

So, you're basically saying that LGBT people can't devote themselves to what they think is right at their temporary expense. It sounds to me like you just have a really low opinion of them. Plus, the one I consider a saint (Fr. Seraphim Rose) was a convert. Plus, we have them on NSG, Dio is a good example.

I do not have a low opinion of them. I am just stating the facts. Repression never works. It can look like it does, but illusions tend to look like they work.

'No true LGBT person can have strong religious convictions.'

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Self hatred is a good thing now? Yeah. Totally. 100% Healthy.

>Religious devotion is now self hate
Nice reading comprehension there.

Why, yes, for an LGBT person? It does, in fact, necessarily mean self hate if they subscribe to a Conservative branch of Christianity.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

Why do gay people need to repent for having sex or getting married? Love is love. Repression never works, for anyone in the LGBT community. Anytime forced repression happens, it almost always leads to mental illness, suicide, or in some cases, if the person gets attacked, murder because of them taking their frustrations out, all of them, on the attacker.

Repentance/repression has never done any good to the LGBT community. Those who 'converted' or had 'conversion therapy'? They were either paid to, or just said they were straight and forced themselves to repress and such just to stop the torture involved in conversion therapy. Like any other person, they'll crack and say whatever you want to hear to get the torture and such to stop, even if it is the farthest thing from the truth.

You say you harbor no ill will towards the community, yet you advocate things that are harmful, and indeed lead to death, within said community. Not sure if hypocritical or just dishonest.

There are, as I said, many mentally healthy LGBT Orthodox and Roman Catholic Christians who conduct themselves admirably, and I know of one that I and many others consider a saint.

I never endorsed conversion therapy, and think such an abominable practice should be banned.

Out of interest, do you think they're as happy as they would be in your church in a hundred years or so, when it's moved on (as it inevitably will)? Or as happy as they would be if they were straight? In a situation where you're not calling their nature sinful and denying them the happiness that you call a sacrament and reserve for your own kind, where they're allowed to love.

[United Marxist Nations]

>Religious devotion is now self hate
Nice reading comprehension there.

Why, yes, for an LGBT person? It does, in fact, necessarily mean self hate if they subscribe to a Conservative branch of Christianity.

No, it really doesn't. You just can't separate a person from their actions and thoughts.

[The Imperial Regions of Commerce]

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[Benuty]

Even Dawkins knew when to quit.

Well they used to, but now they cannot stop digging their own grave on twiiter. Thankfully Donald Trump has completely overshadowed Dawkins in that regards.

If religion ruined your life you wouldn't think too kindly of it.

Wow I am pretty impressed.

An entire system of identifiable traits, rituals, practices, and other norms ruined your life?

Something tells me you mean one religion ruined your life because I have a feeling Jainism, and several others had nothing to do with it.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Why, yes, for an LGBT person? It does, in fact, necessarily mean self hate if they subscribe to a Conservative branch of Christianity.

No, it really doesn't. You just can't separate a person from their actions and thoughts.

Supressing ones harmless preference in sexual partner, and depriving ones self of love is the ultimate form of self hatred.

[Benuty]

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And?

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

If religion ruined your life you wouldn't think too kindly of it.

Wow I am pretty impressed.

An entire system of identifiable traits, rituals, practices, and other norms ruined your life?

Something tells me you mean one religion ruined your life because I have a feeling Jainism, and several others had nothing to do with it.

Catholicism, specifically.

[United Marxist Nations]

There are, as I said, many mentally healthy LGBT Orthodox and Roman Catholic Christians who conduct themselves admirably, and I know of one that I and many others consider a saint.

I never endorsed conversion therapy, and think such an abominable practice should be banned.

Out of interest, do you think they're as happy as they would be in your church in a hundred years or so, when it's moved on (as it inevitably will)? Or as happy as they would be if they were straight? In a situation where you're not calling their nature sinful and denying them the happiness that you call a sacrament and reserve for your own kind, where they're allowed to love.

The Church hasn't changed its position on marriage, and it never will. I think they indeed are less happy, which is why the community has an obligation to provide emotional support. And everyone has a sinful nature, not just LGBT's. They could receive the sacrament, but it would be loveless because they don't feel attraction to people of the opposite sex.

[The V O I D]

I do not have a low opinion of them. I am just stating the facts. Repression never works. It can look like it does, but illusions tend to look like they work.

'No true LGBT person can have strong religious convictions.'

Why would a person put themselves in a position where they must repress themselves because otherwise they'll be outcasted or perhaps even hated or attacked on purpose?

[United Marxist Nations]

'No true LGBT person can have strong religious convictions.'

Why would a person put themselves in a position where they must repress themselves because otherwise they'll be outcasted or perhaps even hated or attacked on purpose?

Because they think it is right.

[The V O I D]

Why would a person put themselves in a position where they must repress themselves because otherwise they'll be outcasted or perhaps even hated or attacked on purpose?

Because they think it is right.

The only reason they'd think it's right to do that to themselves is if they were brainwashed to believe it, or forced to (see conversion therapy).

[United Marxist Nations]

No, it really doesn't. You just can't separate a person from their actions and thoughts.

Supressing ones harmless preference in sexual partner, and depriving ones self of love is the ultimate form of self hatred.

On the contrary, I think it is admirable aesthetic practice to be held as a pillar of the community.

[United Marxist Nations]

Because they think it is right.

The only reason they'd think it's right to do that to themselves is if they were brainwashed to believe it, or forced to (see conversion therapy).

Got anything to back that up?

[The Imperial Regions of Commerce]

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