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Postby MERIZoC » Tue May 05, 2015 5:52 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:
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In all seriousness, though, how much time have you spent hunting and gathering?

Merizoc?
Guy keeps trying to steal my Goats. I keep building walls, but he keeps breaking them down.

Fucking Mongolians shitposting on my board and breaking my walls.

You Zoroastrians had it coming. Hell, you even got conquered by the Muslims before we came.

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Postby MERIZoC » Tue May 05, 2015 5:54 pm

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Merizoc wrote:Radical? Sure. But I wouldn't consider myself extreme.

In the sense of "advocates genocide", you're certainly not extreme(at least not explicitly. Whether anarcho-primitivism requires genocide as a prereq is a discussion for another thread), but you are in the sense of "far outside the political spectrum".

I'd say that extremist hinges upon actions, rather than relation to the norm.

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Postby Benuty » Tue May 05, 2015 5:55 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote:Merizoc?
Guy keeps trying to steal my Goats. I keep building walls, but he keeps breaking them down.

Fucking Mongolians shitposting on my board and breaking my walls.

You Zoroastrians had it coming. Hell, you even got conquered by the Muslims before we came.

Because fighting what was left of the Romans in the East drained their economy hell it caused 1/3rd of the economy of Rome in the East (Byzantium in the modern sense) to collapse.

No wonder the Caliphate had an easy time picking off the more devastated parts. However the Zoroastrians kept rebelling for 200 years before they started to flee to India, and Central Asia.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Tue May 05, 2015 5:56 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote:Merizoc?
Guy keeps trying to steal my Goats. I keep building walls, but he keeps breaking them down.

Fucking Mongolians shitposting on my board and breaking my walls.

You Zoroastrians had it coming. Hell, you even got conquered by the Muslims before we came.

Such is life as a Zoroastrian Pole.
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue May 05, 2015 5:56 pm

Benuty wrote:
Merizoc wrote:You Zoroastrians had it coming. Hell, you even got conquered by the Muslims before we came.

Because fighting what was left of the Romans in the East drained their economy hell it caused 1/3rd of the economy of Rome in the East (Byzantium in the modern sense) to collapse.

No wonder the Caliphate had an easy time picking off the more devastated parts. However the Zoroastrians kept rebelling for 200 years before they started to flee to India, and Central Asia.

Hehehehehehehe

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Postby Benuty » Tue May 05, 2015 5:56 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:You Zoroastrians had it coming. Hell, you even got conquered by the Muslims before we came.

Such is life as a Zoroastrian Pole.
First Muslims, then Germans.

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Just claim you are Persian they only wanted slavs obviously *nods*.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Tue May 05, 2015 5:59 pm

Benuty wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote:Such is life as a Zoroastrian Pole.
First Muslims, then Germans.

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Just claim you are Persian they only wanted slavs obviously *nods*.

I think I of safe anyways. Everyone of know that Poles Ar-Jan.

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Benuty wrote:Because fighting what was left of the Romans in the East drained their economy hell it caused 1/3rd of the economy of Rome in the East (Byzantium in the modern sense) to collapse.

No wonder the Caliphate had an easy time picking off the more devastated parts. However the Zoroastrians kept rebelling for 200 years before they started to flee to India, and Central Asia.

Hehehehehehehe

nowhere safe


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Postby Diopolis » Tue May 05, 2015 6:01 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Diopolis wrote:In the sense of "advocates genocide", you're certainly not extreme(at least not explicitly. Whether anarcho-primitivism requires genocide as a prereq is a discussion for another thread), but you are in the sense of "far outside the political spectrum".

I'd say that extremist hinges upon actions, rather than relation to the norm.

Then how would you describe "far outside the political spectrum"? Radical generally carries baggage of left-wingness.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Tue May 05, 2015 6:01 pm

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Republic of the Cristo wrote:How does one start, join, and actively participate in a party.

What do you mean?

I think he might mean the NSGS.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Tue May 05, 2015 6:03 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Merizoc wrote:I'd say that extremist hinges upon actions, rather than relation to the norm.

Then how would you describe "far outside the political spectrum"? Radical generally carries baggage of left-wingness.

I generally associated it with right wingers. Guess thats what I got from living in Massachusetts.
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue May 05, 2015 6:04 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Merizoc wrote:I'd say that extremist hinges upon actions, rather than relation to the norm.

Then how would you describe "far outside the political spectrum"? Radical generally carries baggage of left-wingness.

True, true. Immoderate? Far-[insert descriptor here]?

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Postby Tsavo » Tue May 05, 2015 6:05 pm

Socially, yes I would say there is a larger portion of NSG being liberal on the matter. Economically I would say it is far more diverse.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue May 05, 2015 6:07 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Then how would you describe "far outside the political spectrum"? Radical generally carries baggage of left-wingness.

I generally associated it with right wingers. Guess thats what I got from living in Massachusetts.

It originated to refer to the far-left. The term you're looking for is "reactionary".
Merizoc wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Then how would you describe "far outside the political spectrum"? Radical generally carries baggage of left-wingness.

True, true. Immoderate? Far-[insert descriptor here]?

Far-whatever definitely works, although the left-right model is overly simplistic.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue May 05, 2015 6:07 pm

Khorsun wrote:You've heard correctly. Liberals, trolls, and liberal trolls describes 90% of the crowd here.


I kinda agree with this :P
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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Tue May 05, 2015 6:08 pm

If there is one thing that is almost taboo to be though, its anarchist. You cannot start an anarchist thread and not have 90% of the people there just going there to say that they disagree with it.
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue May 05, 2015 6:10 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:If there is one thing that is almost taboo to be though, its anarchist. You cannot start an anarchist thread and not have 90% of the people there just going there to say that they disagree with it.

Actually, speaking as an anarchist, I really don't think that's the case. There are quite a few of us on here, and though many people might disagree with us, most of them are willing to still have a discussion about it.

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Postby Khorsun » Tue May 05, 2015 6:11 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Khorsun wrote:You've heard correctly. Liberals, trolls, and liberal trolls describes 90% of the crowd here.


I kinda agree with this :P


And as far as trolls go, I'd wager a fair majority are liberals trolling liberals by posing as monarchists, making fun of atheism, etc.
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Postby Miletos » Tue May 05, 2015 6:11 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:If there is one thing that is almost taboo to be though, its anarchist. You cannot start an anarchist thread and not have 90% of the people there just going there to say that they disagree with it.

There's a difference between something being taboo and lots of people having political objections to it.

There really isn't very much (within the rules) that is taboo on NSG.
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue May 05, 2015 6:13 pm

Miletos wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:If there is one thing that is almost taboo to be though, its anarchist. You cannot start an anarchist thread and not have 90% of the people there just going there to say that they disagree with it.

There's a difference between something being taboo and lots of people having political objections to it.

There really isn't very much (within the rules) that is taboo on NSG.

Well, homophobes tend to be looked down on. A lot.

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Postby Diopolis » Tue May 05, 2015 6:15 pm

Khorsun wrote:
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I kinda agree with this :P


And as far as trolls go, I'd wager a fair majority are liberals trolling liberals by posing as monarchists, making fun of atheism, etc.

Speaking as a monarchist, I don't see a lot of trolls posing as monarchists(although it's blatantly obvious when they do), mostly because monarchism seems to have a relatively good reputation(as being an ideology whose members are willing to discuss and defend it with reasoned arguments). Most of them claim to be US religious right or fascists.
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Postby Korouse » Tue May 05, 2015 6:17 pm

Miletos wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:If there is one thing that is almost taboo to be though, its anarchist. You cannot start an anarchist thread and not have 90% of the people there just going there to say that they disagree with it.

There's a difference between something being taboo and lots of people having political objections to it.

There really isn't very much (within the rules) that is taboo on NSG.

The mods do a good job at removing anything '"taboo" before it spreads into our lymph nodes like cancer.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue May 05, 2015 6:17 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Miletos wrote:There's a difference between something being taboo and lots of people having political objections to it.

There really isn't very much (within the rules) that is taboo on NSG.

Well, homophobes tend to be looked down on. A lot.

Actual homophobes or people who believe homosexual acts are morally wrong?
The former are really looked down on.
The latter can get away with it, usually, although they'll probably get in some fairly heated arguments if they decide to make a big deal out of their views.
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Postby Caille » Tue May 05, 2015 6:29 pm

NSG leans to the left, but it doesn't hinder debate. I say that as a centrist with many Republican views.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue May 05, 2015 6:30 pm

Republic of the Cristo wrote:Now to everyone... what was the most extremist view you have thus far seen on this site?

Back on the Jolt forums during the height of Project Chanology, we had a brief storm of Scientologist trolls attempting to smear Anon/Anti-Scis and pimp how awesome they were. I swear to $deity, they were utterly incapable of arguing their position without flaming the hell outta their detractors. (Which, as I understand, is part of the organization's doctrine for dealing with dissent.)

Oh, then there's the occasional chemtrail guy. Those get pretty far out there, too. Things almost invariably go pear-shaped whenever we get an actual Young-Earth Creationist, Geocentrist, or Flat-Earther on the site. And one time we had some completely crazy guy briefly ranting about a government conspiracy about time being flat and the government was hiding the truth etc etc etc.

I think the most extreme statements I've personally seen tend to come from Moderation matters though, ranging from how the site is a Nazi-supporting offshoot of Stormfront (because we don't outright ban the ideology entirely,) that we've been responsible for DDOS attacks on other sites (that the mod team has never even heard of,) even had one once foreeever ago that was completely convinced that the mods had Max Barry captured and held hostage so we could rule the site without his interference. :eyebrow:
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue May 05, 2015 6:33 pm

Generally, NS is very socially libertarian/liberal. Economics are all over the place, however.

Actual social conservatives on this site have become more vocal but are still overwhelmed.
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