NSG, extraordinarily liberal?

[Miletos]

How does one start, join, and actively participate in a party.

What do you mean?

[Diopolis]

You would probably be considered center-right here.
NSG, like most of the internet, is left-leaning. However, it has a much broader political spectrum than most of the world- I'm a far-rightist reactionary monarchist and I'm not the most conservative on the site, and there are plenty of far-left anarchists around. Sure, the average NSer is probably a leftist social democrat, but at least in NSG, they really do want to have a conversation on what they believe, so as long as your views are grounded in actual reasons and you take care not to flame anyone, you should be fine.

I've noted people tend to not consider the opposing viewpoints much, at least that's what it seems like. My experience from the abortion debate I was just having sort of led to the vibe that people are not here to academically debate at the very least, and most do not come away with new perspectives :c

Or is this just a defense mechanism in terms of retaining your values? Unsure tbh.

Abortion debates tend to get... uncivil here. I think that's because we normally go through an abortion thread a week, so a decent portion of otherwise upstanding posters avoid the things like the plague, leaving the threads to newbies(who don't really know the site culture that well and often have a certain awkwardness to them) mingling with zealots on both sides. That's not a great recipe for a serious, in depth discussion.
The only other major exception is gay marriage. Also if your views are just offensive(racism, sexism, etc.) you won't encounter that.
There's also a bit of a site bias towards higher post-counts. A fair number of posters assume anyone with less than a hundred posts who says anything controversial is a troll. If you defend the same positions consistently, and make sure to argue well, you won't encounter that for long.

I wouldn't call NSG extraordinarily liberal. Left-of-center, certainly. I think it's actually skewed just a hair to the right in recent years. (Of course, with the 2016 US Presidential election circus about to kick into full swing, who knows?) Aside from the majority however, there's a fairly decent scattering of other viewpoints, running the gamut from extreme right to extreme left, though the more extreme the position, the harder it is for adherents to argue it in a way that doesn't break the site rules. Certainly seems like our conservative posters don't get dogpiled nearly as badly as they did circa 2012 or 2008, anyhow.

Then again, I also think our users aren't firmly all liberal/all conservative in their viewpoints, either. We've got users who are socially liberal while fiscally conservative and vice versa. Anti-gun control players who are also pro-LGBT. And so on and so forth. There's a lot more variation than the black-and-white polarization some people would try to shoehorn everybody into.

I remember when I first started, back in 2013(I lurked for a year). People are much more willing to listen to not-social-democrat-or-moderate-socialist viewpoints now.
Basically, regardless of your ideology(unless it violates site rules), you can find at least a small pocket of respected users who share it.

[New Albian]

NSG has become more right-leaning and authoritarian lately, but I'd say a majority of NSGers lean left and are socially liberal.

Having come back to serious NSG posting after a break that, bar minor interruptions, lasted for the best part of two years, I'd be inclined to agree with this. Lefties and liberals are still in the majority, but the conservative voice is a lot more noticeable than in 2012-3.

Are the majority of right leaning people moderates though? Or extremists? If the latter, doesn't really help me either :c

[Khorsun]

Here, I've put it into chart form for you.

[Republic of the Cristo]

How does one start, join, and actively participate in a party.

What do you mean?

You know like how Diapolis is a member of the ADL and how Atlantico is a member of the New age Democrats.

[Republic of the Cristo]

Having come back to serious NSG posting after a break that, bar minor interruptions, lasted for the best part of two years, I'd be inclined to agree with this. Lefties and liberals are still in the majority, but the conservative voice is a lot more noticeable than in 2012-3.

Are the majority of right leaning people moderates though? Or extremists? If the latter, doesn't really help me either :c

Moderate.

[Miletos]

What do you mean?

You know like how Diapolis is a member of the ADL and how Atlantico is a member of the New age Democrats.

Try here, I think:

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=325481

[Greed and Death]

Left of center.

[MERIZoC]

Certainly not. The average NS'r hovers around the center-left, generally social democracy, not liberalism. Which isn't to say there aren't quite a few liberals on here.

[Diopolis]

What do you mean?

You know like how Diapolis is a member of the ADL and how Atlantico is a member of the New age Democrats.

The ADL is more of a (kinda goofy) role playing group than a party. You join it by applying in the thread.
The New age Democrats are an NSG senate thing, I believe. For them, you have to first join the NSG senate RP- that's an application in the thread, just like any other RP- and then post in their thread your intent to be a member of the NSG senate party in question.

[MERIZoC]

What do you mean?

You know like how Diapolis is a member of the ADL and how Atlantico is a member of the New age Democrats.

Er, those are RP's.

[Republic of the Cristo]

You know like how Diapolis is a member of the ADL and how Atlantico is a member of the New age Democrats.

The ADL is more of a (kinda goofy) role playing group than a party. You join it by applying in the thread.
The New age Democrats are an NSG senate thing, I believe. For them, you have to first join the NSG senate RP- that's an application in the thread, just like any other RP- and then post in their thread your intent to be a member of the NSG senate party in question.

Thanks

Now to everyone... what was the most extremist view you have thus far seen on this site?

[MERIZoC]

The ADL is more of a (kinda goofy) role playing group than a party. You join it by applying in the thread.
The New age Democrats are an NSG senate thing, I believe. For them, you have to first join the NSG senate RP- that's an application in the thread, just like any other RP- and then post in their thread your intent to be a member of the NSG senate party in question.

Thanks

Now to everyone... what was the most extremist view you have thus far seen on this site?

The Hitler fanboys.

[Khorsun]

Thanks

Now to everyone... what was the most extremist view you have thus far seen on this site?

The Hitler fanboys.

"Besides anarcho-primitivism, Genghis Khan has advocated for numerous positions and beliefs, with varying success, including: environmental protection and conservation; animal rights; atheism; evolution; a two-state solution for the Palestinian/Israeli conflict; LGBTQ rights; separation of church and state; a woman's right to choose; the legalization of marijuana; and socialism."


A sentence I never dreamed I would end up reading in my lifetime.

[New Albian]

Certainly not. The average NS'r hovers around the center-left, generally social democracy, not liberalism. Which isn't to say there aren't quite a few liberals on here.

Most people associate liberals with being left leaning rather than economic liberalism which is actually inherently right wing.

The first of which is what I meant in OP

[Republic of the Cristo]

The Hitler fanboys.

"Besides anarcho-primitivism, Genghis Khan has advocated for numerous positions and beliefs, with varying success, including: environmental protection and conservation; animal rights; atheism; evolution; a two-state solution for the Palestinian/Israeli conflict; LGBTQ rights; separation of church and state; a woman's right to choose; the legalization of marijuana; and socialism."


A sentence I never dreamed I would end up reading in my lifetime.

Just seems like hard-left, and on this site is not too extreme

[MERIZoC]

The Hitler fanboys.

"Besides anarcho-primitivism, Genghis Khan has advocated for numerous positions and beliefs, with varying success, including: environmental protection and conservation; animal rights; atheism; evolution; a two-state solution for the Palestinian/Israeli conflict; LGBTQ rights; separation of church and state; a woman's right to choose; the legalization of marijuana; and socialism."


A sentence I never dreamed I would end up reading in my lifetime.

[MERIZoC]

Certainly not. The average NS'r hovers around the center-left, generally social democracy, not liberalism. Which isn't to say there aren't quite a few liberals on here.

Most people associate liberals with being left leaning rather than economic liberalism which is actually inherently right wing.

The first of which is what I meant in OP

Most people in the US maybe….

Go ask someone in Denmark what liberal means, and they'll give you a very different answer. Liberal is someone who believes in liberalism.

[Diopolis]

Thanks

Now to everyone... what was the most extremist view you have thus far seen on this site?

The Hitler fanboys.

Anarcho-primitivism is probably about as left as they are right, and technically the monarchists/traditionalists are farther right than fascists.

[MERIZoC]

The Hitler fanboys.

Anarcho-primitivism is probably about as left as they are right, and technically the monarchists/traditionalists are farther right than fascists.

Radical? Sure. But I wouldn't consider myself extreme.

[Khorsun]

"Besides anarcho-primitivism, Genghis Khan has advocated for numerous positions and beliefs, with varying success, including: environmental protection and conservation; animal rights; atheism; evolution; a two-state solution for the Palestinian/Israeli conflict; LGBTQ rights; separation of church and state; a woman's right to choose; the legalization of marijuana; and socialism."


A sentence I never dreamed I would end up reading in my lifetime.

In all seriousness, though, how much time have you spent hunting and gathering?

[Cyrisnia]

In all seriousness, though, how much time have you spent hunting and gathering?

Merizoc?
Guy keeps trying to steal my Goats. I keep building walls, but he keeps breaking them down.

Fucking Mongolians shitposting on my board and breaking my walls.

[Diopolis]

Anarcho-primitivism is probably about as left as they are right, and technically the monarchists/traditionalists are farther right than fascists.

Radical? Sure. But I wouldn't consider myself extreme.

In the sense of "advocates genocide", you're certainly not extreme(at least not explicitly. Whether anarcho-primitivism requires genocide as a prereq is a discussion for another thread), but you are in the sense of "far outside the political spectrum".

[Republic of the Cristo]

In all seriousness, though, how much time have you spent hunting and gathering?

Merizoc?
Guy keeps trying to steal my Goats. I keep building walls, but he keeps breaking them down.

Fucking Mongolians shitposting on my board and breaking my walls.

[Cyrisnia]

Merizoc?
Guy keeps trying to steal my Goats. I keep building walls, but he keeps breaking them down.

Fucking Mongolians shitposting on my board and breaking my walls.

Whats really worse is that he has some guy leave some weird Confucian saying on a note attached to an arrow.

The next time I get "Man with pocket in hand feel cocky all day." on an arrow in my wall is the time I snap.