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Postby Teemant » Wed May 06, 2015 8:44 am

Romalae wrote:The conventional wisdom is that NSG is typically left-wing. I think that's true to some degree, but the right-wingers here are also very vocal, especially lately. I think it's a 60-40 split, whereas when I first joined four years ago I'd say it was more like 75-25.


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Postby Rupudska » Wed May 06, 2015 8:48 am

Khorsun wrote:You've heard correctly. Liberals, trolls, and liberal trolls describes 90% of the crowd here.


Only 90%?
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Postby Vindex Nation » Wed May 06, 2015 8:50 am

It is true. 95% of the players on NS are highly liberal. And 90% of that 95% are incompetent.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed May 06, 2015 9:04 am

Ailiailia wrote:
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It states that men are raped with the same frequency as women, but most go unreported. A survey revealed as many as 12-16% of college men reported being serially victimized, only 1% lower than college women.


The link is broken. Is it meant to point to "Assessing Victim Blame ..." by Kirsten Ann Piatak?


The link downloads a PDF, it works fine for me.

And yes, it is Assessing Victim Blame.
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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Wed May 06, 2015 9:07 am

I would suppose that NSG is definitely left wing to some extent, with a good percentage of the posters being socially liberal, and somewhat economically left-wing (although most aren't bleeding heart socialists, and still support private enterprise nonetheless, and not as left-wing as they are socially). Yet, we do have those who do not conform to this majority, but those who do not conform range from Marxist-Leninists, to Neo-Reactionaries, to Monarchists.

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Postby Hladgos » Wed May 06, 2015 9:22 am

Because us liberals have no lives, we dwindle in our caves of sadness and post on the internet while the working man republican does all the heavy lifting.
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Postby Val Halla » Wed May 06, 2015 9:24 am

Look at the UK election poll.
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Postby Steamtopia » Wed May 06, 2015 9:33 am

Vindex Nation wrote:It is true. 95% of the players on NS are highly liberal. And 90% of that 95% are incompetent.

95%? Yea, no.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed May 06, 2015 9:37 am

Lumeau wrote:If you try and back up your arguments with purely religious justifications, say trite things like "pull yourself up by your bootstraps," or argue for clearly authoritarian policies like chucking people in jail for pot or expanding the NSA, you will be shat upon.


Clearly. We should also release all those drunk drivers too, while we're at it, because we wouldn't want to be authoritarian for chucking people in jail for beer.

This demonstrates the inherently left-wing status of NSG as a whole.
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Postby Fanosolia » Wed May 06, 2015 9:41 am

Maybe liberal, but I would say more socially minded people. Though I have seen the more classic liberal types here too as of late. Though trust me, there's a fair bit of the opposites too
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed May 06, 2015 9:58 am

I've been likened to Rush Limbaugh, despite being romantically in love with the Nordic Model. Stranger still, I wasn't even trying to sell them stocks in gold or my books.
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Postby Robert Magoo » Wed May 06, 2015 10:17 am

New Albian wrote:My friends in business and political organizations think I'm fairly liberal but on this site I feel like a conservative, lol.

Can anyone relate?

I'm fairly new here and would kinda like a casual go around about what NSG is like and what I can expect from my view points.

I'm business friendly, socially liberal (excluding abortion and feminism), and pretty much what my sig says so yeah.

What's NSG like?

Strongly left-wing AND strongly right-wing. Basically just plain extremist. Never seen so many of both communists and fascists in a single place. But that's okay, it's not like others are unwelcome. It's good in the sense that you get to interact with people you might normally never see.
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Postby Robert Magoo » Wed May 06, 2015 10:18 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:I've been likened to Rush Limbaugh, despite being romantically in love with the Nordic Model. Stranger still, I wasn't even trying to sell them stocks in gold or my books.

Maybe it's a personality thing. Do you like to talk about how great your own voice is? ;)
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Postby Robert Magoo » Wed May 06, 2015 10:18 am

Vindex Nation wrote:It is true. 95% of the players on NS are highly liberal. And 90% of that 95% are incompetent.

A high number of progressives in NSG, but not that high, and outside NSG it's much more balanced.
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Build up your wealth and give it away, but don't let the state take it. Help those in need and love your neighbor as yourself.

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Wed May 06, 2015 10:21 am

being libertarian on nationstates

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Postby Robert Magoo » Wed May 06, 2015 10:24 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:being libertarian on nationstates

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Not quite. There are a few of us. Just get drowned out and dismissed by authoritarians of both the right and left. You have to just not care, and stick around anyway. Things were better though several years ago, before the most significant libertarians left.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed May 06, 2015 10:33 am

Robert Magoo wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:I've been likened to Rush Limbaugh, despite being romantically in love with the Nordic Model. Stranger still, I wasn't even trying to sell them stocks in gold or my books.

Maybe it's a personality thing. Do you like to talk about how great your own voice is? ;)

That strikes me as more of a Michael Savage move.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed May 06, 2015 10:35 am

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In which case, your opinion is invalid and this could categorize as flame baiting.

1. Then report me.

2. Rep has already said the thread is not about feminism. Stop.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed May 06, 2015 10:36 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:I've been likened to Rush Limbaugh, despite being romantically in love with the Nordic Model. Stranger still, I wasn't even trying to sell them stocks in gold or my books.

Do you spew hate-filled rhetoric at people you don't know? Are you a drug-addicted hypocrite?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed May 06, 2015 10:38 am

Teemant wrote:
Romalae wrote:The conventional wisdom is that NSG is typically left-wing. I think that's true to some degree, but the right-wingers here are also very vocal, especially lately. I think it's a 60-40 split, whereas when I first joined four years ago I'd say it was more like 75-25.


It's just that voice of reason is strengthening.

No, the younger generations are listening to the idiots in the GOP and reading shit by Ayn Rand. They're becoming anarcho-capitalists before they even know how to do taxes. The Right is brainwashing the children.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed May 06, 2015 10:43 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Teemant wrote:
It's just that voice of reason is strengthening.

No, the younger generations are listening to the idiots in the GOP and reading shit by Ayn Rand. They're becoming anarcho-capitalists before they even know how to do taxes. The Right is brainwashing the children.


It's official. You have no concept of the current state of affairs in either the World, or the US.
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Postby Benuty » Wed May 06, 2015 10:44 am

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Republic of the Cristo wrote:Now to everyone... what was the most extremist view you have thus far seen on this site?

Back on the Jolt forums during the height of Project Chanology, we had a brief storm of Scientologist trolls attempting to smear Anon/Anti-Scis and pimp how awesome they were. I swear to $deity, they were utterly incapable of arguing their position without flaming the hell outta their detractors. (Which, as I understand, is part of the organization's doctrine for dealing with dissent.)

Oh, then there's the occasional chemtrail guy. Those get pretty far out there, too. Things almost invariably go pear-shaped whenever we get an actual Young-Earth Creationist, Geocentrist, or Flat-Earther on the site. And one time we had some completely crazy guy briefly ranting about a government conspiracy about time being flat and the government was hiding the truth etc etc etc.

I think the most extreme statements I've personally seen tend to come from Moderation matters though, ranging from how the site is a Nazi-supporting offshoot of Stormfront (because we don't outright ban the ideology entirely,) that we've been responsible for DDOS attacks on other sites (that the mod team has never even heard of,) even had one once foreeever ago that was completely convinced that the mods had Max Barry captured and held hostage so we could rule the site without his interference. :eyebrow:

Well it isn't like Moderation, and the rest of NS haven't been cockfighting over certain issues.

Of-course didn't we have a person who argued for a military dictatorship based on human equality rule the Earth, and help end mixed racial discrimination?

I swear that user was into way too much Warhammer 40k.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Wed May 06, 2015 10:44 am

Proud brainwashed randroid, at your service.

Becausing advocating people to be left alone is too much for some.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed May 06, 2015 10:46 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:Proud brainwashed randroid, at your service.

Becausing advocating people to be left alone is too much for some.

You know I don't mean you, TLT. :p You're definitely one of the most intelligent and not-13-years-old of the right-wing libertarians.
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Postby Steamtopia » Wed May 06, 2015 10:47 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Teemant wrote:
It's just that voice of reason is strengthening.

No, the younger generations are listening to the idiots in the GOP and reading shit by Ayn Rand. They're becoming anarcho-capitalists before they even know how to do taxes. The Right is brainwashing the children.

The young are listening to the GOP?

What.
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