2015 UK Politics Megathread

[Chartist Socialist Republics]

Why does anyone need to adopt anyone else's culture?

In order to be accepted by the society into which they have decided to enter.

Tolerance really is dead isn't it...

[Krumbia]

So I've just moved house from North Yorkshire to Cheshire, and for the first time ever I've been in walking distance of a local shop which sells newspapers. So I've resolved to buy a physical copy of a newspaper once or twice every week, and I'm currently cycling through them to see which I like the best (in print form this is, online is a whole different world). I bought the Grauniad with high expectations, but was somewhat disappointed. It appeared to have a lot of flare and little content, some of which was obviously highly pretentious, and it didn't have enough politics in for my liking either. I bought the Independent today, and I'm pleasantly surprised. I think the layout is peculiar, and it'll take a while to get used to it, but there's lots of stories, a lot of intelligent journalism and a fair number of opinion pieces. Also the Indy tends to go out of its way to run stories other papers don't pick up on, which is also interesting. Next, I think I'll buy the Times. Others on my list include the Telegraph and possibly the Morning Star if I can get a copy, and also the FT. Not sure I want to go for any like the Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Star, Daily Express or the Daily Mirror.

Honestly, I wouldn't waste my time or money on any of them.

As much as I don't want to contribute to the wealth of someone like R Murdoch, there's only so much intelligent conversation I can read about current affairs on the internet. I also like to read physical things, so besides reading books I think the next best things to read are newspapers.

[Chartist Socialist Republics]

Honestly, I wouldn't waste my time or money on any of them.

As much as I don't want to contribute to the wealth of someone like R Murdoch, there's only so much intelligent conversation I can read about current affairs on the internet. I also like to read physical things, so besides reading books I think the next best things to read are newspapers.

Nah, the next best thing to reading books, is reading more books.

[Krumbia]

As much as I don't want to contribute to the wealth of someone like R Murdoch, there's only so much intelligent conversation I can read about current affairs on the internet. I also like to read physical things, so besides reading books I think the next best things to read are newspapers.

Nah, the next best thing to reading books, is reading more books.

That may be so. I've been generally reading more recently, which can only be good for me.

[The Nihilistic view]

I believe that the Burkha should be banned, completely. Just like in France, I find it intimidating to walk on the streets and not to find a friendly, local-mans face but to find a completely-masked foreign-women (Im not against foreign people) and think that they can jump in here, not respect our culture, set up mosques and spread their religion? No!If we want to properly stop the risk of ISIS getting into Europe (which I believe has already happened in places like Bosnia and Herzegovina) we need to take more actions and regulations against immigrants coming from places like Iraq and Syria where the fighting is most intense.

There are a few areas and professions (in court, or for doctors, teachers etc) where it's reasonable but the French total ban is total bollocks and I may start wearing one in protest myself if any prospective law went beyond a limited number of situations where face to face contact is important.

[Knokkeheist]

Muslims don't accept our culture , why should we accept their culture?

Why does anyone need to adopt anyone else's culture?

Because you need to adapt to the new country , you can keep your own religion but you must accept our norms and learn our language.

[Ostroeuropa]

The tories hate strikes, right?
And corporations basically tell our government what to do these days, right?

Why don't we call for a national strike until parliament agrees to hold a constitutional convention on vote reform.
Explain to the corporations that we're sorry, but we refuse to generate tax revenue for a non-representative government.

If you run this in combination with some savvy PR people in contact with a few stores and such, you can have those stores endorse the movement and hand out a bit of produce to the strikers and such. That shit is great advertising to the people, even if the strike fails.

Keep it going a few days, then if they still havn't budged, pull out the big guns.

You announce that you are electing a second parliament proportionally.

THAT'D get their ass into fucking gear. It would lack any sort of officialness, it's be an impromptu pretend parliament. But the fact you've done that, and got people to vote for it, fucking murders the governments legitimacy.

But what can they do about it?
Forbid people holding ballots?

I expect that after a few days of a national strike, the threat to hold a peasants election would see them crack and offer constitutional reform.

If they don't, then fuck it. Elect a second parliament, and see where the chips fall. It wouldn't come to an actual civil war. The governments legitimacy would just erode over time as the second parliament existed, especially given the blazeh attitude of our police, who would probably secretly go along with it's law changes because of their community-orientated view. At some point the second one could make an appeal to the queen and the army, and it'd be instant. Say, if it got more votes than the real one. The government can't open fire on the peasants parliament, it would destroy the country to have an actual war over it, and even if they won their credibility would be permanently ruined. That, and there is no way the British Army would do it.

If the government needs a compromise to save face, say they can keep the current members as the real parliament, but the next election must be proportional.

You wouldn't even need a proper national strike, just key areas, or even just everyone refuse to have the government as a client. Partial Strike.

If your job is to sell stationary, you carry on your job but refuse to sell to the government, etc.

We really do need to fix our system, and the pricks aren't going to do it themselves, we've gotta force them somehow.

[Irona]

The tories hate strikes, right?
And corporations basically tell our government what to do these days, right?

Why don't we call for a national strike until parliament agrees to hold a constitutional convention on vote reform.
Explain to the corporations that we're sorry, but we refuse to generate tax revenue for a non-representative government.

If you run this in combination with some savvy PR people in contact with a few stores and such, you can have those stores endorse the movement and hand out a bit of produce to the strikers and such. That shit is great advertising to the people, even if the strike fails.

Keep it going a few days, then if they still havn't budged, pull out the big guns.

You announce that you are electing a second parliament proportionally.

THAT'D get their ass into fucking gear. It would lack any sort of officialness, it's be an impromptu pretend parliament. But the fact you've done that, and got people to vote for it, fucking murders the governments legitimacy.

But what can they do about it?
Forbid people holding ballots?

I expect that after a few days of a national strike, the threat to hold a peasants election would see them crack and offer constitutional reform.

If they don't, then fuck it. Elect a second parliament, and see where the chips fall. It wouldn't come to an actual civil war. The governments legitimacy would just erode over time as the second parliament existed, especially given the blazeh attitude of our police, who would probably secretly go along with it's law changes because of their community-orientated view. At some point the second one could make an appeal to the queen and the army, and it'd be instant. Say, if it got more votes than the real one. The government can't open fire on the peasants parliament, it would destroy the country to have an actual war over it, and even if they won their credibility would be permanently ruined. That, and there is no way the British Army would do it.

If the government needs a compromise to save face, say they can keep the current members as the real parliament, but the next election must be proportional.

You wouldn't even need a proper national strike, just key areas, or even just everyone refuse to have the government as a client. Partial Strike.

If your job is to sell stationary, you carry on your job but refuse to sell to the government, etc.

We really do need to fix our system, and the pricks aren't going to do it themselves, we've gotta force them somehow.

We kinda already had our chance at vote reform

[Marcurix]

The tories hate strikes, right?
And corporations basically tell our government what to do these days, right?

Why don't we call for a national strike until parliament agrees to hold a constitutional convention on vote reform.
Explain to the corporations that we're sorry, but we refuse to generate tax revenue for a non-representative government.

If you run this in combination with some savvy PR people in contact with a few stores and such, you can have those stores endorse the movement and hand out a bit of produce to the strikers and such. That shit is great advertising to the people, even if the strike fails.

Keep it going a few days, then if they still havn't budged, pull out the big guns.

You announce that you are electing a second parliament proportionally.

THAT'D get their ass into fucking gear. It would lack any sort of officialness, it's be an impromptu pretend parliament. But the fact you've done that, and got people to vote for it, fucking murders the governments legitimacy.

But what can they do about it?
Forbid people holding ballots?

I expect that after a few days of a national strike, the threat to hold a peasants election would see them crack and offer constitutional reform.

If they don't, then fuck it. Elect a second parliament, and see where the chips fall. It wouldn't come to an actual civil war. The governments legitimacy would just erode over time as the second parliament existed, especially given the blazeh attitude of our police, who would probably secretly go along with it's law changes because of their community-orientated view. At some point the second one could make an appeal to the queen and the army, and it'd be instant. Say, if it got more votes than the real one. The government can't open fire on the peasants parliament, it would destroy the country to have an actual war over it, and even if they won their credibility would be permanently ruined. That, and there is no way the British Army would do it.

If the government needs a compromise to save face, say they can keep the current members as the real parliament, but the next election must be proportional.

You wouldn't even need a proper national strike, just key areas, or even just everyone refuse to have the government as a client. Partial Strike.

If your job is to sell stationary, you carry on your job but refuse to sell to the government, etc.

We really do need to fix our system, and the pricks aren't going to do it themselves, we've gotta force them somehow.

The problem is that it isn't just parliament that needs to get it's ass in gear. It's people.

[Vassenor]

So the #LabourPurge totally isn't politically motivated, but a union leader who criticised the party's rightward shift has had his vote discarded.

[CoraSpia]

Does Harman care about internal democracy?

[The Archregimancy]

So I've just moved house from North Yorkshire to Cheshire, and for the first time ever I've been in walking distance of a local shop which sells newspapers. So I've resolved to buy a physical copy of a newspaper once or twice every week, and I'm currently cycling through them to see which I like the best (in print form this is, online is a whole different world). I bought the Grauniad with high expectations, but was somewhat disappointed. It appeared to have a lot of flare and little content, some of which was obviously highly pretentious, and it didn't have enough politics in for my liking either. I bought the Independent today, and I'm pleasantly surprised. I think the layout is peculiar, and it'll take a while to get used to it, but there's lots of stories, a lot of intelligent journalism and a fair number of opinion pieces. Also the Indy tends to go out of its way to run stories other papers don't pick up on, which is also interesting. Next, I think I'll buy the Times. Others on my list include the Telegraph and possibly the Morning Star if I can get a copy, and also the FT. Not sure I want to go for any like the Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Star, Daily Express or the Daily Mirror.

I've been reading the Independent more or less since day one.

Being an Indy loyalist is arguably an even more frustrating experience than being a LibDem loyalist - but ultimately more rewarding. Though I'm self-aware enough to realise that I might lose both my newspaper and my political party in the next 25 years if I'm unlucky.

I dislike the hectoring, humourless, statist tone of much of the Guardian for much the same reason that I dislike the hectoring, humourless, statist tone of Labour.

Of the right of centre papers, I can tolerate the Telegraph for its journalism, even while strongly disagreeing with its opinions.

I only ever touch the Mail to gain insight into what the enemy is thinking (the enemy seems to largely consist of terrified upper middle class women). I don't understand who reads the Express; I theorise that its readership consists solely of UKIP voters over the age of 65, but can't prove this.

[CoraSpia]

So I've just moved house from North Yorkshire to Cheshire, and for the first time ever I've been in walking distance of a local shop which sells newspapers. So I've resolved to buy a physical copy of a newspaper once or twice every week, and I'm currently cycling through them to see which I like the best (in print form this is, online is a whole different world). I bought the Grauniad with high expectations, but was somewhat disappointed. It appeared to have a lot of flare and little content, some of which was obviously highly pretentious, and it didn't have enough politics in for my liking either. I bought the Independent today, and I'm pleasantly surprised. I think the layout is peculiar, and it'll take a while to get used to it, but there's lots of stories, a lot of intelligent journalism and a fair number of opinion pieces. Also the Indy tends to go out of its way to run stories other papers don't pick up on, which is also interesting. Next, I think I'll buy the Times. Others on my list include the Telegraph and possibly the Morning Star if I can get a copy, and also the FT. Not sure I want to go for any like the Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Star, Daily Express or the Daily Mirror.

I've been reading the Independent more or less since day one.

Being an Indy loyalist is arguably an even more frustrating experience than being a LibDem loyalist - but ultimately more rewarding. Though I'm self-aware enough to realise that I might lose both my newspaper and my political party in the next 25 years if I'm unlucky.

I dislike the hectoring, humourless, statist tone of much of the Guardian for much the same reason that I dislike the hectoring, humourless, statist tone of Labour.

Of the right of centre papers, I can tolerate the Telegraph for its journalism, even while strongly disagreeing with its opinions.

I only ever touch the Mail to gain insight into what the enemy is thinking (the enemy seems to largely consist of terrified upper middle class women). I don't understand who reads the Express; I theorise that its readership consists solely of UKIP voters over the age of 65, but can't prove this.

My Dad reads the Express, and he's a UKIP voter under 65!

[Chartist Socialist Republics]

The tories hate strikes, right?
And corporations basically tell our government what to do these days, right?

Why don't we call for a national strike until parliament agrees to hold a constitutional convention on vote reform.
Explain to the corporations that we're sorry, but we refuse to generate tax revenue for a non-representative government.

If you run this in combination with some savvy PR people in contact with a few stores and such, you can have those stores endorse the movement and hand out a bit of produce to the strikers and such. That shit is great advertising to the people, even if the strike fails.

Keep it going a few days, then if they still havn't budged, pull out the big guns.

You announce that you are electing a second parliament proportionally.

THAT'D get their ass into fucking gear. It would lack any sort of officialness, it's be an impromptu pretend parliament. But the fact you've done that, and got people to vote for it, fucking murders the governments legitimacy.

But what can they do about it?
Forbid people holding ballots?

I expect that after a few days of a national strike, the threat to hold a peasants election would see them crack and offer constitutional reform.

If they don't, then fuck it. Elect a second parliament, and see where the chips fall. It wouldn't come to an actual civil war. The governments legitimacy would just erode over time as the second parliament existed, especially given the blazeh attitude of our police, who would probably secretly go along with it's law changes because of their community-orientated view. At some point the second one could make an appeal to the queen and the army, and it'd be instant. Say, if it got more votes than the real one. The government can't open fire on the peasants parliament, it would destroy the country to have an actual war over it, and even if they won their credibility would be permanently ruined. That, and there is no way the British Army would do it.

If the government needs a compromise to save face, say they can keep the current members as the real parliament, but the next election must be proportional.

You wouldn't even need a proper national strike, just key areas, or even just everyone refuse to have the government as a client. Partial Strike.

If your job is to sell stationary, you carry on your job but refuse to sell to the government, etc.

We really do need to fix our system, and the pricks aren't going to do it themselves, we've gotta force them somehow.

We kinda already had our chance at vote reform

The alternative vote is barely a step up from FPTP.

[The Matthew Islands]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 0826101476

Anybody else getting a ticket?

[The Huskar Social Union]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/ids-unveils-sinister-island-theme-park-20150826101476

Anybody else getting a ticket?

Ill buy two.

[Knokkeheist]

What are the current issues in London and the UK in general?

I'm going to london on 31 december.

[CoraSpia]

What are the current issues in London and the UK in general?

I'm going to london on 31 december.

beer prices

[Imperializt Russia]

So I've just moved house from North Yorkshire to Cheshire, and for the first time ever I've been in walking distance of a local shop which sells newspapers. So I've resolved to buy a physical copy of a newspaper once or twice every week, and I'm currently cycling through them to see which I like the best (in print form this is, online is a whole different world). I bought the Grauniad with high expectations, but was somewhat disappointed. It appeared to have a lot of flare and little content, some of which was obviously highly pretentious, and it didn't have enough politics in for my liking either. I bought the Independent today, and I'm pleasantly surprised. I think the layout is peculiar, and it'll take a while to get used to it, but there's lots of stories, a lot of intelligent journalism and a fair number of opinion pieces. Also the Indy tends to go out of its way to run stories other papers don't pick up on, which is also interesting. Next, I think I'll buy the Times. Others on my list include the Telegraph and possibly the Morning Star if I can get a copy, and also the FT. Not sure I want to go for any like the Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Star, Daily Express or the Daily Mirror.

I've been reading the Independent more or less since day one.

Being an Indy loyalist is arguably an even more frustrating experience than being a LibDem loyalist - but ultimately more rewarding. Though I'm self-aware enough to realise that I might lose both my newspaper and my political party in the next 25 years if I'm unlucky.

I dislike the hectoring, humourless, statist tone of much of the Guardian for much the same reason that I dislike the hectoring, humourless, statist tone of Labour.

Of the right of centre papers, I can tolerate the Telegraph for its journalism, even while strongly disagreeing with its opinions.

I only ever touch the Mail to gain insight into what the enemy is thinking (the enemy seems to largely consist of terrified upper middle class women). I don't understand who reads the Express; I theorise that its readership consists solely of UKIP voters over the age of 65, but can't prove this.

The Express appeals to Northerners in the age range of about 25-40 from what I remember.

[Vassenor]

I've been reading the Independent more or less since day one.

Being an Indy loyalist is arguably an even more frustrating experience than being a LibDem loyalist - but ultimately more rewarding. Though I'm self-aware enough to realise that I might lose both my newspaper and my political party in the next 25 years if I'm unlucky.

I dislike the hectoring, humourless, statist tone of much of the Guardian for much the same reason that I dislike the hectoring, humourless, statist tone of Labour.

Of the right of centre papers, I can tolerate the Telegraph for its journalism, even while strongly disagreeing with its opinions.

I only ever touch the Mail to gain insight into what the enemy is thinking (the enemy seems to largely consist of terrified upper middle class women). I don't understand who reads the Express; I theorise that its readership consists solely of UKIP voters over the age of 65, but can't prove this.

The Express appeals to Northerners in the age range of about 25-40 from what I remember.

And the Sun is just a mass of lies that's not even worthy of being used as bog roll.

[Olivaero]

Does Harman care about internal democracy?

New Labour basically set out to reduce internal democracy in the party so i doubt she does

[Atlanticatia]

Jeremy Corbyn's proposal for women-only train carriages is quite stupid. Not the way to deal with sexual violence and harassment against women at all.

[CoraSpia]

Jeremy Corbyn's proposal for women-only train carriages is quite stupid. Not the way to deal with sexual violence and harassment against women at all.

plus is rather condescending towards men, and indeed women.

[The Matthew Islands]

Jeremy Corbyn's proposal for women-only train carriages is quite stupid. Not the way to deal with sexual violence and harassment against women at all.

Good thing he didn't propose it then.

[Belivonia]

What are the current issues in London and the UK in general?

I'm going to london on 31 december.

Immigration. Walk down the street and you will think you are in Islamabad.
600,000 Native-British people have left London because of this, effectively making them the minority.

(that wouldn't really mind you,)

also, a real problem is the prices. Central-London is surreal expensive, especially Camden Town and the high-street.