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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon May 04, 2015 3:32 am

New Frenco Empire wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:So what qualifies you as "integrated" if anything?

He hates Democrats and considers himself more of a "Texan" than an American, so...

So, he believes in neither the political climate of his country nor its federal nature.

He's not integrated at all, where's he pulled this ridiculous high horse from?
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon May 04, 2015 3:33 am

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Really? Her parents where born here in the US. She grew up here and spent a few years abroad. So how is she not integrated when she spent her entire childhood and most of her adult life here in the US?


And Chechens speaking Arabic who were living under Russia for 6 centuries but bear no resemblance to Russians are integrated how?

Being born somewhere isn't a voucher to say you're integrated.
First of, Chechens don't speak Arabic. They speak Chechen. They aren't even in the same language family. Secondly, you are saying a heavily marginalized group of people with a separate social identity, longstanding opposition to Russian rule, and popular identification as Chechens rather than Russians is completely comparable to a Jewish American who was born in America, lived in America most of her life, identifies as American, and adheres to American cultural norms? May I ask you what the hell you even think an American is, because I can't think of anyone who could possibly be an American if your criteria is this strict?
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon May 04, 2015 3:35 am

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Threlizdun wrote:We don't even have an official language. People are multilingual. Speaking another language does not mean you cease to be an American. We're a nation of immigrants. Literally the only ethnic group that didn't immigrate here sure as hell didn't speak English as a native language. Most of the founding fathers were multilingual. You're calling people traitors for being knowledgeable.


Learning a language for knowledge =/= Learning a language for religion

Both involve knowledge of a language. And why the hell are they different. Other than your desperation to pretend Muslims aren't Americans and that they are all the same and hate Americans because they aren't capable of individual thought like you are, what possible reason could you have to believe this garbage?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon May 04, 2015 3:35 am

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Imperializt Russia wrote:In what manner do they not accrue knowledge through this endeavour?



It's about the purpose.

Which is wholly irrelevant.
And not what you said.

In what manner do they not accrue knowledge?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon May 04, 2015 3:37 am

North Dallas wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:He hates Democrats and considers himself more of a "Texan" than an American, so...


No

I hate both Democrats and the non-libertarian factions of Republicans.

I consider myself an American and Texas the sucessor state to the US of A.

You are objectively wrong and clearly not "integrated" on this basis.
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Postby Miletos » Mon May 04, 2015 3:39 am

North Dallas wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:He hates Democrats and considers himself more of a "Texan" than an American, so...


No

I hate both Democrats and the non-libertarian factions of Republicans.

I consider myself an American and Texas the sucessor state to the US of A.


How can you be both a separatist and integrated?

And no, Texas is not the "successor state" to a state that still exists and of which it is a constituent part.
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Postby Lubland » Mon May 04, 2015 3:40 am

I'd just like to point out some shocking facts here,

No, not all muslims are bad.
HOWEVER
Data has been collated estimating that around 25% of the worlds muslim population are extremists.
Lets do some year 6 maths, 1.2 Billion divided by 25% = over 300 MILLION extremists worldwide. Now lets look at something else, a question this time. What did you feel when you saw the recent news of beheaddings?
Shock, anguish, disguist? Congratulations, Islam has inspired fear into your heart. They use this fear both to recruit new followers daily and to keep us scared. As Australia's Prime Minister, Tony Abbot said not so long ago "The best thing we can do is get on with our daily lives". But no, Islam is leading the greatest worldwide propaganda campaign since Communism and it's working.

Secondly, go look up "jesus cartoon", "jesus meme", "Buddhist cartoon", "hindu cartoon".

Now post how many christian, buddhist and hindu shootings have ocurred due to them. (And by the way, don't say Crusades. Trust me I will destroy your failure to go look up maps of how far into the Middle East they got and why they did it in the first place. Besides it's not a shooting and i'm pretty sure cartoons and memes wern't around then.)

Finally, have any of you bothered to find out what Islam stands for? If anything those cartoons tell a thousand words.

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Postby Threlizdun » Mon May 04, 2015 3:40 am

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The Mass was spoken solely in Latin until the 1960's, I'm guessing all those Catholic priests weren't integrated huh?



No it wasnt

The term "Latin Mass" is frequently used to denote the Tridentine Mass, that is, the Roman-Rite liturgy of the Mass celebrated in Latin and in accordance with the successive editions of the Roman Missal published between 1570 and 1962.. Are you going to continue lying about what other people do, what they believe and what languages they speak, or are you actually going to accept that maybe those of us that actually have met someone outside of our ethnic group know what we are talking about? Seriously, what reason can you even give that we should bother listening to you at this point?
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Postby Miletos » Mon May 04, 2015 3:47 am

North Dallas wrote:
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How can you be both a separatist and integrated?

And no, Texas is not the "successor state" to a state that still exists and of which it is a constituent part.

I'm not a separatist. The 280 million Americans who don't live in Texas are separatists.

And it is at this point that we truly jumped through the looking-glass into the "REMEMBER THE ALAMO FREE TEXAS LONE-STAR STATE YEEEEEEAAAAAAAH!" madhouse.

You're aware that, to use your earlier analogy, in this argument you're more like the Chechens (except you're not oppressed) than you are the Russians?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 04, 2015 3:50 am

North Dallas wrote:
Miletos wrote:And it is at this point that we truly jumped through the looking-glass into the "REMEMBER THE ALAMO FREE TEXAS LONE-STAR STATE YEEEEEEAAAAAAAH!" madhouse.

You're aware that, to use your earlier analogy, in this argument you're more like the Chechens (except you're not oppressed) than you are the Russians?


No. Texas is by far the more Russia of the two.


Except it's not.
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon May 04, 2015 3:52 am

Lubland wrote:I'd just like to point out some shocking facts here,

No, not all muslims are bad.
HOWEVER
Data has been collated estimating that around 25% of the worlds muslim population are extremists.
Lets do some year 6 maths, 1.2 Billion divided by 25% = over 300 MILLION extremists worldwide. Now lets look at something else, a question this time. What did you feel when you saw the recent news of beheaddings?
Shock, anguish, disguist? Congratulations, Islam has inspired fear into your heart. They use this fear both to recruit new followers daily and to keep us scared. As Australia's Prime Minister, Tony Abbot said not so long ago "The best thing we can do is get on with our daily lives". But no, Islam is leading the greatest worldwide propaganda campaign since Communism and it's working.

Secondly, go look up "jesus cartoon", "jesus meme", "Buddhist cartoon", "hindu cartoon".

Now post how many christian, buddhist and hindu shootings have ocurred due to them. (And by the way, don't say Crusades. Trust me I will destroy your failure to go look up maps of how far into the Middle East they got and why they did it in the first place. Besides it's not a shooting and i'm pretty sure cartoons and memes wern't around then.)

Finally, have any of you bothered to find out what Islam stands for? If anything those cartoons tell a thousand words.

First of all, please source were you got that preposterous statistic that a quarter of all Muslims support terrorism. Secondly, yes, Buddhist terrorism, Hindu terrorism, and Christian terrorism all certainly exist and are major problems.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon May 04, 2015 3:52 am

North Dallas wrote:
Miletos wrote:And it is at this point that we truly jumped through the looking-glass into the "REMEMBER THE ALAMO FREE TEXAS LONE-STAR STATE YEEEEEEAAAAAAAH!" madhouse.

You're aware that, to use your earlier analogy, in this argument you're more like the Chechens (except you're not oppressed) than you are the Russians?


No. Texas is by far the more Russia of the two.

On no possible level is this the case.
Except, perhaps, for societal and institutional homphobia and a hawkish attitude to warfare.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Mon May 04, 2015 3:53 am

North Dallas wrote:
Miletos wrote:And it is at this point that we truly jumped through the looking-glass into the "REMEMBER THE ALAMO FREE TEXAS LONE-STAR STATE YEEEEEEAAAAAAAH!" madhouse.

You're aware that, to use your earlier analogy, in this argument you're more like the Chechens (except you're not oppressed) than you are the Russians?


No. Texas is by far the more Russia of the two.

Sure, you can be Russia.

But we mere Chechens are stuck with hundreds of millions of more people, all the infrastructure and all of the cruise missiles...
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon May 04, 2015 3:56 am

North Dallas wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:The term "Latin Mass" is frequently used to denote the Tridentine Mass, that is, the Roman-Rite liturgy of the Mass celebrated in Latin and in accordance with the successive editions of the Roman Missal published between 1570 and 1962.. Are you going to continue lying about what other people do, what they believe and what languages they speak, or are you actually going to accept that maybe those of us that actually have met someone outside of our ethnic group know what we are talking about? Seriously, what reason can you even give that we should bother listening to you at this point?


Because my great grandparents are catholics and they have videos

And my step father was raised Catholic and has discussed the Latin masses. Which is most likely? You are lying, you don't remember it properly for some reason your grandparents had a Church that didn't practice it for some reason, or there is a global conspiracy that talks about the Catholic masses in Latin before 1962 and we are all trying to deceive you? I really don't care which one you pick as long as it isn't the last one. If you do, then you desperately need help.
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Postby Ad Nihilo » Mon May 04, 2015 3:59 am

North Dallas wrote:
Miletos wrote:
How can you be both a separatist and integrated?

And no, Texas is not the "successor state" to a state that still exists and of which it is a constituent part.



I'm not a separatist. The 280 million Americans who don't live in Texas are separatists.


Ok. So troll.

Moving swiftly on.

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon May 04, 2015 4:03 am

Ad Nihilo wrote:
North Dallas wrote:

I'm not a separatist. The 280 million Americans who don't live in Texas are separatists.


Ok. So troll.

Moving swiftly on.


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Postby The Third Nova Terra of Scrin » Mon May 04, 2015 4:03 am

Threlizdun wrote:
Lubland wrote:I'd just like to point out some shocking facts here,

No, not all muslims are bad.
HOWEVER
Data has been collated estimating that around 25% of the worlds muslim population are extremists.
Lets do some year 6 maths, 1.2 Billion divided by 25% = over 300 MILLION extremists worldwide. Now lets look at something else, a question this time. What did you feel when you saw the recent news of beheaddings?
Shock, anguish, disguist? Congratulations, Islam has inspired fear into your heart. They use this fear both to recruit new followers daily and to keep us scared. As Australia's Prime Minister, Tony Abbot said not so long ago "The best thing we can do is get on with our daily lives". But no, Islam is leading the greatest worldwide propaganda campaign since Communism and it's working.

Secondly, go look up "jesus cartoon", "jesus meme", "Buddhist cartoon", "hindu cartoon".

Now post how many christian, buddhist and hindu shootings have ocurred due to them. (And by the way, don't say Crusades. Trust me I will destroy your failure to go look up maps of how far into the Middle East they got and why they did it in the first place. Besides it's not a shooting and i'm pretty sure cartoons and memes wern't around then.)

Finally, have any of you bothered to find out what Islam stands for? If anything those cartoons tell a thousand words.

First of all, please source were you got that preposterous statistic that a quarter of all Muslims support terrorism. Secondly, yes, Buddhist terrorism, Hindu terrorism, and Christian terrorism all certainly exist and are major problems.


Good job ignoring the majority of terrorists present in the world. Stop pointing out some fringe terrorist religious groups and begin to ask what religion ISIS, Hamas and Al-Qaeda follows.

It is undeniable that the religions you noted had only led to minor and fringe cases of terrorism whereas Islam is responsible for virtually all terrorism after the Cold War.
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Postby New Carloso » Mon May 04, 2015 4:03 am

Apparently they attempted to suicide bomb the place.
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Postby Ad Nihilo » Mon May 04, 2015 4:05 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Ad Nihilo wrote:
Ok. So troll.

Moving swiftly on.


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Even when it be a statement of fact?

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon May 04, 2015 4:06 am

Ad Nihilo wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Trollnaming is a warnable offense on this site.


Even when it be a statement of fact?


Yes, you must have some substance to your post beyond calling someone a troll.
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon May 04, 2015 4:07 am

I'm too tired to do this anymore. I went ahead an added North Dallas to my ignore list so I don't have to see those posts in their short time left on this site. As parting words, all I have to say is that we are on a thread talking about people who were shot after going out of their away to attack those who were different from them. So you know, maybe not doing the same shit that got them killed would be a valuable life lesson.

And no, don't anyone read this as me saying they deserved this. No one deserves death. All I'm saying is that when people are being killed after intentionally antagonizing others, doing the same thing they did and expecting everything to work out well is not a bright move in any way.
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Neutraligon wrote:
Ad Nihilo wrote:
Even when it be a statement of fact?


Yes, you must have some substance to your post beyond calling someone a troll.


Well if a mod deems that my observation is without merit based on the man's contributions, then I guess I will deserve to be given a warning.

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Postby Threlizdun » Mon May 04, 2015 4:12 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Ad Nihilo wrote:
Ok. So troll.

Moving swiftly on.


Trollnaming is a warnable offense on this site.

They lied about the language an ethnic group speak to try to serve their argument, they claim all Muslims are the same and that literally not a single one cares about America, they claim that everyone is lying that Catholics had mass in Latin before 1962, and they just said that all Americans who don't live in Texas are separatists from the glory of Texas. They're a troll. If they aren't, then may the gods help them. If we can't call someone like them out on their shit then there just any point to this site anymore.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Mon May 04, 2015 4:12 am

They don't seem to have been particularly competent terrorists. Not even gifted amateurs.
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L Ron Cupboard wrote:They don't seem to have been particularly competent terrorists. Not even gifted amateurs.


I'm guessing that for suicide terrorists you can only really hope for "gifted amateurs" :P

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