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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon May 04, 2015 2:08 am

Wait, this was a Pamela Geller event? Now that lunatic gets to be a free speech martyr? That's depressing. She's a horrible human being, and this just gives her a bigger microphone, and, for once in her sorry life, the moral high ground.

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Postby Val Halla » Mon May 04, 2015 2:22 am

Y'know, it's starting to seem to me that people are just organising these events just to get attacked so they can go "Hey look, Islam is bad and we should hate them!"
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Postby Seraven » Mon May 04, 2015 2:36 am

Val Halla wrote:Y'know, it's starting to seem to me that people are just organising these events just to get attacked so they can go "Hey look, Islam is bad and we should hate them!"


It's been like that.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 04, 2015 2:45 am

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Val Halla wrote:Y'know, it's starting to seem to me that people are just organising these events just to get attacked so they can go "Hey look, Islam is bad and we should hate them!"


This only proves muslims are savages


And abortion clinic shootings prove Christians are savages, aren't sweeping generalizations fun?
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon May 04, 2015 2:47 am

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Val Halla wrote:Y'know, it's starting to seem to me that people are just organising these events just to get attacked so they can go "Hey look, Islam is bad and we should hate them!"


This only proves muslims are savages

Of course, a small minority of a marginalized group lashing at after being provoked clearly proves that all Muslims are a bunch of evil savages. By the same token, all Christians are savages because some bomb abortion clinics, all Americans are savages because some bomb civilians, and all humans are savages because humans kill other humans.
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Postby Val Halla » Mon May 04, 2015 2:51 am

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Val Halla wrote:Y'know, it's starting to seem to me that people are just organising these events just to get attacked so they can go "Hey look, Islam is bad and we should hate them!"


This only proves muslims are savages

Oh, the generalizing! Have you ever met a Muslim? If so, did they kill you? Evidently not. Don't label for something you don't know.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Mon May 04, 2015 2:52 am

I'm just worried about the ammunition this gives them...

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You have to try much harder than that to insult me, at least get creative and put some effort into it. Also, no it was your stupid 'Dems are ebul destruyin Texas hurr durr' nonsense.

As for how it's relevant? It's not entirely, but Texas could be considered a topic for discussion given this happened in Dallas.

Any word on where the shooter was from? Texas or no?


Democrats are incredibly evil. And both Bushes are Texas-shaming assholes. This is why Texas should go independent, there is no hope in this forsaken country, whether you go left or right.

You'll be back in a week, tops. And that's only if we let you secede.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 04, 2015 2:54 am

North Dallas wrote:
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And abortion clinic shootings prove Christians are savages, aren't sweeping generalizations fun?



No. Different denominations, different beliefs.

Ibadi Muslims, Catholics and Mormons are fine. Baptists are generally not. I dont know why you keep pulling up Christians in every Islam convo with me. Are you assuming im a christian?


Nope. Just making the same idiotic generalizations you are. If this makes all Muslims savages then clinic bombings make all Christians savages, Atheists shooting theists makes all Atheists savages etc.
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon May 04, 2015 2:54 am

North Dallas wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
And abortion clinic shootings prove Christians are savages, aren't sweeping generalizations fun?



No. Different denominations, different beliefs.

Ibadi Muslims, Catholics and Mormons are fine. Baptists are generally not. I dont know why you keep pulling up Christians in every Islam convo with me. Are you assuming im a christian?
What of the fundamentalist Mormons that form religious compounds that force children into marriage, rape them, indoctrinate them, and beat them? Since Mormons have a small community of fundamentalists, shouldn't you be just as antagonistic to them as to Muslims?
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon May 04, 2015 2:55 am

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No. Different denominations, different beliefs.

Ibadi Muslims, Catholics and Mormons are fine. Baptists are generally not. I dont know why you keep pulling up Christians in every Islam convo with me. Are you assuming im a christian?
What of the fundamentalist Mormons that form religious compounds that force children into marriage, rape them, indoctrinate them, and beat them? Since Mormons have a small community of fundamentalists, shouldn't you be just as antagonistic to them as to Muslims?


And of course the pedophile priests just go to show all Catholics are savages right?
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon May 04, 2015 2:58 am

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Val Halla wrote:Oh, the generalizing! Have you ever met a Muslim? If so, did they kill you? Evidently not. Don't label for something you don't know.


I've met many Muslims. Never liked any. Only kill on TV, dress like monks in real life, claim welfare in real life (unless they are cab drivers, cause they rip u off) and are not integrated at all. American and Muslim are paradox. Muslims are only interested in Mecca and the homes of their ancestors.


Just as a hint, you are currently breaking the rules of this site, I would recommend reading up on the rules.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon May 04, 2015 3:00 am

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Just as a hint, you are currently breaking the rules of this site, I would recommend reading up on the rules.

I'm talking about Muslims I've met, as clearly stated, therefore not breaking any rules.


Considering your previous comments were all Muslims you are indeed breaking the rules.
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Postby Val Halla » Mon May 04, 2015 3:03 am

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Val Halla wrote:Oh, the generalizing! Have you ever met a Muslim? If so, did they kill you? Evidently not. Don't label for something you don't know.


I've met many Muslims. Never liked any. Only kill on TV, dress like monks in real life, claim welfare in real life (unless they are cab drivers, cause they rip u off) and are not integrated at all. American and Muslim are paradox. Muslims are only interested in Mecca and the homes of their ancestors.

See, one of my best friends is a Muslim. He loves the UK, he's smart and grateful to be here. Not once has he made a threat of violence against me, the same cannot be said for Christians and Atheists. He's charitable, speaks amazing English, and Spanish too. He even teaches people Arabic on request. So, what I'm trying to say is, your logic is flawed.
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon May 04, 2015 3:03 am

North Dallas wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Oh, the generalizing! Have you ever met a Muslim? If so, did they kill you? Evidently not. Don't label for something you don't know.


I've met many Muslims. Never liked any. Only kill on TV, dress like monks in real life, claim welfare in real life (unless they are cab drivers, cause they rip u off) and are not integrated at all. American and Muslim are paradox. Muslims are only interested in Mecca and the homes of their ancestors.
What bullshit. Most Muslims dress the same as the majority of the people in there area do. You know what the average Muslim dress on my campus is? Jeans and a t shirt. Some of the women may wear hijab, though several of them don't. I've been to typical college parties with Muslims that involved all the drinking and smoking you would expect, and many of them are participating like everyone else. One of the leaders of the Queer Action club on campus is a bisexual Muslim woman. She also helps with organizing people for the Black Lives Matter marches. I know two Muslims that are active members of the kink community and don't see it as much of a conflict with their faith. Muslims are individuals. They are not some religious massive hive mind.
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Postby Ad Nihilo » Mon May 04, 2015 3:04 am

Right so violent bigots attack bigots who incite violence.

Couldn't we just put all these lovely people in a pen and let them have at each other? Hunger Games style? I'm sure they would all be delighted to be martyred for their cause, and no innocent bystanders need to be hurt in the process.

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Postby Val Halla » Mon May 04, 2015 3:07 am

North Dallas wrote:
Val Halla wrote:See, one of my best friends is a Muslim. He loves the UK, he's smart and grateful to be here. Not once has he made a threat of violence against me, the same cannot be said for Christians and Atheists. He's charitable, speaks amazing English, and Spanish too. He even teaches people Arabic on request. So, what I'm trying to say is, your logic is flawed.



And he knows Arabic because?

Religious reasons?

Because he is Jordanian. Why does it matter?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon May 04, 2015 3:07 am

Cosumar wrote:This is about 15 minutes from where I live. Scary. While I don't agree with these antagonistic conferences, I don't think they should be banned either. Free speech, open forum of ideas, and whatnot.

But this is, once again, religious fundamentalism making its wonderful contributions to society. But now the Christian Right will get their panties in a wad about "those damned muslims invading our country" and pretend like they're somehow better...

This is not what Free Speech was ever intended to let you do.
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Postby Miletos » Mon May 04, 2015 3:08 am

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Val Halla wrote:Oh, the generalizing! Have you ever met a Muslim? If so, did they kill you? Evidently not. Don't label for something you don't know.


I've met many Muslims. Never liked any. Only kill on TV, dress like monks in real life, claim welfare in real life (unless they are cab drivers, cause they rip u off) and are not integrated at all. American and Muslim are paradox. Muslims are only interested in Mecca and the homes of their ancestors.


And all the Muslims I've met are no different to the non-Muslims I know (not eating pork aside); they're just ordinary, decent, good people.

You might want to try not basing an argument purely on anecdotal evidence in future.
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Cosumar wrote:This is about 15 minutes from where I live. Scary. While I don't agree with these antagonistic conferences, I don't think they should be banned either. Free speech, open forum of ideas, and whatnot.

But this is, once again, religious fundamentalism making its wonderful contributions to society. But now the Christian Right will get their panties in a wad about "those damned muslims invading our country" and pretend like they're somehow better...

This is not what Free Speech was ever intended to let you do.


Actually, I'm not so sure about that. Voltaire anyone?

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Postby Benuty » Mon May 04, 2015 3:09 am

What was the expression?

Oh yes "You build it, and they will come".

Well this should be called "You bait them, and they will answer"
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Mon May 04, 2015 3:09 am

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New Frenco Empire wrote:I'm just worried about the ammunition this gives them...


You'll be back in a week, tops. And that's only if we let you secede.


Back in a week? Please. Non-existent debt, most oil, fiscal conservatism. Recipe for success.

I'm talking more about how an overwhelming majority of Texans don't want that load of horseshit.

Besides...that's if we let you. If Texas ever wants to rumble, I'm fine with turning the "Lone Star State" into the "Lone Star Military District".
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon May 04, 2015 3:09 am

North Dallas wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Because he is Jordanian. Why does it matter?


Because he's not integrated


Lolwut

What kinda nonsense is that? Should he just have his mind wiped to forget Arabic?
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Postby Benuty » Mon May 04, 2015 3:10 am

North Dallas wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Because he is Jordanian. Why does it matter?


Because he's not integrated

Because as we all know immigrants who come to this country will perfectly master English.

Except that isn't like that in the real world at all.
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Postby Val Halla » Mon May 04, 2015 3:11 am

North Dallas wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Because he is Jordanian. Why does it matter?


Because he's not integrated

He also speaks Spanish. Does that make him from Spain? Hell, we should just deport anyone who speaks more than one language, right?
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Mon May 04, 2015 3:11 am

North Dallas wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Because he is Jordanian. Why does it matter?


Because he's not integrated

I know a little bit of French.

Totes not an American.
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