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Postby Jute » Thu May 14, 2015 6:58 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Barboneia wrote:Sounds like a horrible idea. It would cut down on productivity.

Indeed. Switching everyone to an 18 on, 4 off schedule wod be far superior.

That's actually two days off less...
Wulfenia wrote:
Jute wrote:I feel like I have a somewhat stereotypical and slightly romanticized view of the Southeastern states in the US... :?
Probably because of some TV series and Buzzfeed.


I'm against romanticization of the South, because we're incredibly fucked up. But at the same time, we're not as fucked up as some would have people to believe (you'd think we still lynch black people.)
Yeah, I agree, both is wrong.
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When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
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Postby Gallade » Thu May 14, 2015 6:58 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Barboneia wrote:Sounds like a horrible idea. It would cut down on productivity.

Indeed. Switching everyone to an 18 on, 4 off schedule wod be far superior.

I'm liking my current 3 on, 362 off tbh...
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu May 14, 2015 7:01 am

Wulfenia wrote:
Jute wrote:I feel like I have a somewhat stereotypical and slightly romanticized view of the Southeastern states in the US... :?
Probably because of some TV series and Buzzfeed.


I'm against romanticization of the South, because we're incredibly fucked up. But at the same time, we're not as fucked up as some would have people to believe (you'd think we still lynch black people.)

Gee... I wonder why people would think that?
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Postby Jute » Thu May 14, 2015 7:03 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
I'm against romanticization of the South, because we're incredibly fucked up. But at the same time, we're not as fucked up as some would have people to believe (you'd think we still lynch black people.)

Gee... I wonder why people would think that?

Ah, Euronews, the multilingual news channel that some years ago had neither any visible studios nor reporters. Set them somewhat apart from the other news channels.
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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Postby Wulfenia » Thu May 14, 2015 7:08 am

Jute wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
A lot of us despise the current political system ourselves (myself included). It really has fucked this country up admittedly. Unfortunately, I don't think it's ever going to change.

Don't be so such a defeatist, you can be the change you want to see in the world, can't you? :P Become politically active.


If I were to become politically active, I'd have to start my own party, because I'd end up making both the Republicans and Democrats hate me. Seriously, fuck the both of 'em.

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Postby Immoren » Thu May 14, 2015 7:09 am

Wulfenia wrote: I'd have to start my own party,


With blackjack and hookers?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu May 14, 2015 7:14 am

Immoren wrote:
Wulfenia wrote: I'd have to start my own party,


With blackjack and hookers?

Add cocaine and it's my primary position.
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Postby Wulfenia » Thu May 14, 2015 7:14 am

Immoren wrote:
Wulfenia wrote: I'd have to start my own party,


With blackjack and hookers?


And catgirls.

In fact, first bill I'd pass would be one demanding the genetic engineering of catgirls.
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Postby Wulfenia » Thu May 14, 2015 7:20 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
I'm against romanticization of the South, because we're incredibly fucked up. But at the same time, we're not as fucked up as some would have people to believe (you'd think we still lynch black people.)

Gee... I wonder why people would think that?


The irony is you're probably one of those people to complain about the "Daily Fail."
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Postby Jute » Thu May 14, 2015 7:22 am

Wulfenia wrote:


The irony is you're probably one of those people to complain about the "Daily Fail."

But that's not the Daily Mail?
Wulfenia wrote:
Jute wrote:Don't be so such a defeatist, you can be the change you want to see in the world, can't you? :P Become politically active.


If I were to become politically active, I'd have to start my own party, because I'd end up making both the Republicans and Democrats hate me. Seriously, fuck the both of 'em.

Sometimes I think Plato had the right idea. Society should be governed by aristocrats forbidden from owning property.

There are other parties, you know.
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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Postby Dyakovo » Thu May 14, 2015 7:27 am

Wulfenia wrote:


The irony is you're probably one of those people to complain about the "Daily Fail."

That wasn't the only source, just the first one and I know absolutely nothing about euronews.
*shrugs*
Better?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu May 14, 2015 7:27 am

Jute wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
The irony is you're probably one of those people to complain about the "Daily Fail."

But that's not the Daily Mail?
Wulfenia wrote:
If I were to become politically active, I'd have to start my own party, because I'd end up making both the Republicans and Democrats hate me. Seriously, fuck the both of 'em.

Sometimes I think Plato had the right idea. Society should be governed by aristocrats forbidden from owning property.

There are other parties, you know.


I prefer this one
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/13/ny ... &referrer=
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



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Postby Dyakovo » Thu May 14, 2015 7:29 am

Jute wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
The irony is you're probably one of those people to complain about the "Daily Fail."

But that's not the Daily Mail?

She's just pissy because I demonstrated that the South is still racist as hell...
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu May 14, 2015 7:31 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
The irony is you're probably one of those people to complain about the "Daily Fail."

That wasn't the only source, just the first one and I know absolutely nothing about euronews.
*shrugs*

They use the letter. U Way to often
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Postby Jute » Thu May 14, 2015 7:33 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
The irony is you're probably one of those people to complain about the "Daily Fail."

That wasn't the only source, just the first one and I know absolutely nothing about euronews.
*shrugs*

Euronews is one of the most trusted and neutral news stations I know of. They didn't even have opinion sections until recently, and still are very reserved when it comes to that.
Dyakovo wrote:
Jute wrote:But that's not the Daily Mail?

She's just pissy because I demonstrated that the South is still racist as hell...
Is that really a justified generalization?
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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Postby Jute » Thu May 14, 2015 7:34 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:That wasn't the only source, just the first one and I know absolutely nothing about euronews.
*shrugs*

The use the letter. U Way to often

Well, they're European... they broadcast in English, French, Spanish, German, Portuguese, Russian and Arabian, if I remember correctly. Possibly Italian as well.
Italios wrote:Jute's probably some sort of Robin Hood-type outlaw
Carl Sagan, astrophysicist and atheist wrote:"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.
When we recognize our place in an immensity of light-years and in the passage of ages,
when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling,
that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual...The notion that science
and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
"A rejection of all philosophy is in itself philosophy."

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu May 14, 2015 7:35 am

Jute wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:That wasn't the only source, just the first one and I know absolutely nothing about euronews.
*shrugs*

Euronews is one of the most trusted and neutral news stations I know of. They didn't even have opinion sections until recently, and still are very reserved when it comes to that.
Dyakovo wrote:She's just pissy because I demonstrated that the South is still racist as hell...
Is that really a justified generalization?

Well there feels like there is more overt racism in the south than other portions of the country. I would argue it's much better than it was, and it is improving, But a lynching in Mississippi wouldn't surprise me.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

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Postby Wulfenia » Thu May 14, 2015 7:40 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
The irony is you're probably one of those people to complain about the "Daily Fail."

That wasn't the only source, just the first one and I know absolutely nothing about euronews.
*shrugs*


While it isn't out of the question, there's no evidence to suggest it was racially motivated murder. It also wouldn't count as a lynching in any case, unless you have evidence that a mob hanged the man, in which case you should share that information with the police.
Dyakovo wrote:
Jute wrote:But that's not the Daily Mail?

She's just pissy because I demonstrated that the South is still racist as hell...


Nah, I know the South is still racist as hell. I was pointing out that complaining about an uncredible paper while linking another uncredible news site is silly. We weren't discussing whether or not the South was racist, but whether it was as bad as people make it out to be.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu May 14, 2015 7:43 am

Jute wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:That wasn't the only source, just the first one and I know absolutely nothing about euronews.
*shrugs*

Euronews is one of the most trusted and neutral news stations I know of. They didn't even have opinion sections until recently, and still are very reserved when it comes to that.
Dyakovo wrote:She's just pissy because I demonstrated that the South is still racist as hell...
Is that really a justified generalization?

Yes. Sure, it's far better than it was 50 years ago, but that's a pretty fucking low bar to have to clear.
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Postby Wulfenia » Thu May 14, 2015 7:48 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Jute wrote:Euronews is one of the most trusted and neutral news stations I know of. They didn't even have opinion sections until recently, and still are very reserved when it comes to that. Is that really a justified generalization?

Yes. Sure, it's far better than it was 50 years ago, but that's a pretty fucking low bar to have to clear.


I'd say there are two kinds of racists in the South - the virulent kind who are normally Neo-Confederates and outspoken in their hatred, and the more laid back kind who probably just grew up around it and pay it lipservice, but don't really care in the long run.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Thu May 14, 2015 7:51 am

Wulfenia wrote:
Immoren wrote:
With blackjack and hookers?


And catgirls.

In fact, first bill I'd pass would be one demanding the genetic engineering of catgirls.

Just...
No.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu May 14, 2015 7:51 am

Wulfenia wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:She's just pissy because I demonstrated that the South is still racist as hell...

Nah, I know the South is still racist as hell. I was pointing out that complaining about an uncredible paper while linking another uncredible news site is silly. We weren't discussing whether or not the South was racist, but whether it was as bad as people make it out to be.

And you don't realize that racism is one of the primary reasons why the South is bad?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu May 14, 2015 7:54 am

Wulfenia wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Yes. Sure, it's far better than it was 50 years ago, but that's a pretty fucking low bar to have to clear.


I'd say there are two kinds of racists in the South - the virulent kind who are normally Neo-Confederates and outspoken in their hatred, and the more laid back kind who probably just grew up around it and pay it lipservice, but don't really care in the long run.

And, according to you, this isn't a bad thing...
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Grave_n_Idle: Maybe that's why the bible is so anti-other-gods, the other gods do exist, but they diss on Jehovah all the time for his shitty work.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu May 14, 2015 7:54 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Jute wrote:Euronews is one of the most trusted and neutral news stations I know of. They didn't even have opinion sections until recently, and still are very reserved when it comes to that. Is that really a justified generalization?

Yes. Sure, it's far better than it was 50 years ago, but that's a pretty fucking low bar to have to clear.

That's fair.
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Postby Gallade » Thu May 14, 2015 7:55 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
The irony is you're probably one of those people to complain about the "Daily Fail."

That wasn't the only source, just the first one and I know absolutely nothing about euronews.
*shrugs*
Better?

Just for the record, Euronews is about as straight to the point and non-biased as you're going to get around here.
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