Legalization of All Consensual Marriage

[Mysterious Stranger]

I don't see why we need our government to "allow" or disallow marriages in the first place.

[Neutraligon]

I don't see why we need our government to "allow" or disallow marriages in the first place.

Because there are certain rights and privileges attached to it

[Living Freedom Land]

I don't see why we need our government to "allow" or disallow marriages in the first place.

Because there are certain rights and privileges attached to it

why should we give privileges to people based on this?

it's blatant discrimination against singles

*cue forever alone meme*

[Neutraligon]

Because there are certain rights and privileges attached to it

why should we give privileges to people based on this?

it's blatant discrimination against singles

*cue forever alone meme*

Simple because to fail to do so harms society. There are certain monetary issues that come up when two people share income and the such. These issues are dealt with in marriage. Single people do not face those issues.

[Living Freedom Land]

why should we give privileges to people based on this?

it's blatant discrimination against singles

*cue forever alone meme*

Simple because to fail to do so harms society. There are certain monetary issues that come up when two people share income and the such. These issues are dealt with in marriage. Single people do not face those issues.

harms society only if you assume it's a good thing for married couples to have said privileges.

[Mysterious Stranger]

why should we give privileges to people based on this?

it's blatant discrimination against singles

*cue forever alone meme*

Simple because to fail to do so harms society. There are certain monetary issues that come up when two people share income and the such. These issues are dealt with in marriage. Single people do not face those issues.

So deal with it when people share income.

[Neutraligon]

Simple because to fail to do so harms society. There are certain monetary issues that come up when two people share income and the such. These issues are dealt with in marriage. Single people do not face those issues.

So deal with it when people share income.

that is what marriage does...

[Neutraligon]

Simple because to fail to do so harms society. There are certain monetary issues that come up when two people share income and the such. These issues are dealt with in marriage. Single people do not face those issues.

harms society only if you assume it's a good thing for married couples to have said privileges.

Explain to me how you deal with taxes where income is shared, how do you deal when two people pay for the same car, how do you deal when a person is is a hospital, how do you deal when a person is a citizen and the significant other is not? Marriage allows legal strangers to be recognized as not legal strangers.

[Mysterious Stranger]

So deal with it when people share income.

that is what marriage does...

Why does it have to be marriage for it to be sharing income? What if I want to open a commune? What if I'm shit with money and want to share income with my brother, who's better with it?

[Living Freedom Land]

harms society only if you assume it's a good thing for married couples to have said privileges.

Explain to me how you deal with taxes where income is shared, how do you deal when two people pay for the same car, how do you deal when a person is is a hospital, how do you deal when a person is a citizen and the significant other is not? Marriage allows legal strangers to be recognized as not legal strangers.

draw up a contract???

how do people deal with being in business agreements?

[Torisakia]

that is what marriage does...

Why does it have to be marriage for it to be sharing income? What if I want to open a commune? What if I'm shit with money and want to share income with my brother, who's better with it?

It would seem as though marriage is the only way to share income. Thus, if you're shit with money the only option is to get married. At least that's what I can draw out.

[The Alma Mater]

Explain to me how you deal with taxes where income is shared, how do you deal when two people pay for the same car, how do you deal when a person is is a hospital, how do you deal when a person is a citizen and the significant other is not? Marriage allows legal strangers to be recognized as not legal strangers.

draw up a contract???

A contract that would be identical to a marriage contract ?
Why not simply call it marriage then ?

[Lumeau]

This thread is awesome. Nothing like seeing authoritarian radfems and authoritarian traditionalists both try to peddle their BS in the exact same place.

Anyway, yeah, legalize everything. Why should I care who marries whom, as long as no one's forced into anything?

[Val Halla]

And another reason to leave to the UK. They don't recognise polygamy. And that with homophobia bring ok for religious reasons.

[Russels Orbiting Teapot]

And another reason to leave to the UK. They don't recognise polygamy. And that with homophobia bring ok for religious reasons.

Does the US recognize polygamy now?

[Val Halla]

And another reason to leave to the UK. They don't recognise polygamy. And that with homophobia bring ok for religious reasons.

Does the US recognize polygamy now?

I guess not. But here there's a pretty negative stance on just having multiple relationships.

[Lumeau]

And another reason to leave to the UK. They don't recognise polygamy. And that with homophobia bring ok for religious reasons.

Have fun with that. The only places that have legal polygamy are Muslim-majority states.

I'm not saying that we should be chucking people in jail for consensual polygamy, but that is not a good reason to leave Britain.

[Val Halla]

And another reason to leave to the UK. They don't recognise polygamy. And that with homophobia bring ok for religious reasons.

Have fun with that. The only places that have legal polygamy are Muslim-majority states.

I'm not saying that we should be chucking people in jail for consensual polygamy, but that is not a good reason to leave Britain.

Was gonna leave anyways. I heard the laws are changing in some parts too.

[Bungle]

I'm personally disgusted by the idea of marrying a sibling, and really don't see why someone would want to marry more than one person. However, I don't think polygamous marriages or marriages between family members should be illegal because it's not my place to tell them who they can or can't marry. My only concern surrounding it is whether or not they would be good environments to bring up children.

[Lumeau]

I'm personally disgusted by the idea of marrying a sibling, and really don't see why someone would want to marry more than one person. However, I don't think polygamous marriages or marriages between family members should be illegal because it's not my place to tell them who they can or can't marry. My only concern surrounding it is whether or not they would be good environments to bring up children.

Incredibly overused argument. A lot of traditional male/female couples are incredibly shitty parents on a number of levels.

A kid brought up in that environment might be outcast but that's more a problem with society at large than it is with people who want to have polygamous marriages.

You also have the fact that some people in polyamorous relationships don't want to have kids but still want legal recognition of their relationship and the rights that go along with it.

If we're going to be concerned about kids, there are a lot more things a parent could do to screw up their kid's upbringing than be married to more than one person.

[Living Freedom Land]

Polygamy is/was the norm in many societies that prospered. It's pretty obvious there's nothing harmful to kids about it (unless we're talking some kind of subjective, immeasurable moral "harm").

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

And another reason to leave to the UK. They don't recognise polygamy. And that with homophobia bring ok for religious reasons.

Does the US recognize polygamy now?

No. Polygamous marriages and relationships are unrecognized

[Val Halla]

Does the US recognize polygamy now?

No. Polygamous marriages and relationships are unrecognized

Just being in a relationship is legally recognised?

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

No. Polygamous marriages and relationships are unrecognized

Just being in a relationship is legally recognised?

Only for the religious. Bigamy is illegal, so I would think polygamy is too.

[Val Halla]

Just being in a relationship is legally recognised?

Only for the religious. Bigamy is illegal, so I would think polygamy is too.

A few states are looking to legalize it, IIRC. I don't see why it was outlawed in the first place, TBH