Baltimore Calmer; 6 Officers Indicted

[Yumyumsuppertime]

The presence of many opportunistic and morally bankrupt people willing to riot, loot, and commit arson is a condition leading to riots, more necessary than even a perceived injustice.

Could you break down that sentence for me? I'm sure that it's just me, but I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

So the interest of the state is kowtowing to the demands of violent rioters?

The interest of the state is to seek justice. The responsibility of the prosecutor seeking an indictment is to lay out the evidence that a crime has taken place. If the prosecutor does not believe that said evidence is sufficient, then no grand jury should be called.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

No, no, no. People maybe dying isn't the concern. Property damage is the real worry. People come a distant second to stuff.

Especially if they're, you know, criminal people.

Worse, poor and black criminal people.

[Geilinor]

Oh yes, clearly the worry is that America's legal traditions can't handle rioting. What's that? Police brutality? Oh pshaw, who cares about that? Yes, a man is dead, but other people might have died, and that's far more important.

No, no, no. People maybe dying isn't the concern. Property damage is the real worry. People come a distant second to stuff.

There are fires that could kill people. What is with the obsession on broken windows?

[Fartsniffage]

No, no, no. People maybe dying isn't the concern. Property damage is the real worry. People come a distant second to stuff.

There are fires that could kill people. What is with the obsession on broken windows?

People own those windows. They paid for them with their work. Breaking them is slavery.

[Geilinor]

There are fires that could kill people. What is with the obsession on broken windows?

People own those windows. They paid for them with their work. Breaking them is slavery.

I mean that the fires some of the rioters have set could kill people.

[Fartsniffage]

People own those windows. They paid for them with their work. Breaking them is slavery.

I mean that the fires some of the rioters have set could kill people.

Did they?

[Geilinor]

I mean that the fires some of the rioters have set could kill people.

Did they?

No, but does it endanger the public?

[Vasileus]

Huh, so out of the officers arrested, three were black (including the sergeant, who was in charge of everything, and the one with the most severe charge) one was hispanic, and two were white.

It's almost as it class (influenced by race, but still it's own thing) and police militarization/impunity have become a greater concern than white supremecy

[Fartsniffage]

Did they?

No, but does it endanger the public?

Apparently less than getting arrested does. That definitely gets innocent people killed.

[Geilinor]

No, but does it endanger the public?

Apparently less than getting arrested does. That definitely gets innocent people killed.

I'm not sure what putting more innocent people at risk accomplishes.

[Fartsniffage]

Apparently less than getting arrested does. That definitely gets innocent people killed.

I'm not sure what putting more innocent people at risk accomplishes.

It's a scream of rage, it's not meant to be clean and polite. Riots tend not to happen when everything is happy and people feel that they're a part of the process.

[Geilinor]

I'm not sure what putting more innocent people at risk accomplishes.

It's a scream of rage, it's not meant to be clean and polite. Riots tend not to happen when everything is happy and people feel that they're a part of the process.

We already know that many people aren't happy. We don't need the riots to tell us, because it's been apparent for months.

[Fartsniffage]

It's a scream of rage, it's not meant to be clean and polite. Riots tend not to happen when everything is happy and people feel that they're a part of the process.

We already know that many people aren't happy. We don't need the riots to tell us, because it's been apparent for months.

No, it's been apparent for years. The black community rioted in '68 in Baltimore and shit still sucks for them nearly half a century later. I'd say they've been very patient really.

[Geilinor]

We already know that many people aren't happy. We don't need the riots to tell us, because it's been apparent for months.

No, it's been apparent for years. The black community rioted in '68 in Baltimore and shit still sucks for them nearly half a century later. I'd say they've been very patient really.

The "black community"? "Many members of the black community" would be more accurate.

[Fartsniffage]

No, it's been apparent for years. The black community rioted in '68 in Baltimore and shit still sucks for them nearly half a century later. I'd say they've been very patient really.

The "black community"? "Many members of the black community" would be more accurate.

Possibly, but that response is completely unresponsive.

[Jamzmania]

We already know that many people aren't happy. We don't need the riots to tell us, because it's been apparent for months.

No, it's been apparent for years. The black community rioted in '68 in Baltimore and shit still sucks for them nearly half a century later. I'd say they've been very patient really.

One of the major reasons why shit still sucks for them is because they rioted. Baltimore never recovered.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Did they?

No, but does it endanger the public?

Of course. And if caught, the people who did it should be arrested and tried for that. However, "endangering the public" does not carry as severe a sentence as "murder" for a very good reason: while a significant crime, it is nowhere near as serious as actually killing someone.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Huh, so out of the officers arrested, three were black (including the sergeant, who was in charge of everything, and the one with the most severe charge) one was hispanic, and two were white.

It's almost as it class (influenced by race, but still it's own thing) and police militarization/impunity have become a greater concern than white supremecy

Or that black people with a badge can hate black people in a way that makes white cops look like members of the Urban League.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

It's a scream of rage, it's not meant to be clean and polite. Riots tend not to happen when everything is happy and people feel that they're a part of the process.

We already know that many people aren't happy. We don't need the riots to tell us, because it's been apparent for months.

Really?

Where were the TV cameras during those months?

Where were the statements by the President?

Where was the national outcry for something to be done?

[Hydesland]

Where was the national outcry for something to be done?

Did the whole "black lives matter" movement and nationwide protests pass you by?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Where was the national outcry for something to be done?

Did the whole "black lives matter" movement and nationwide protests pass you by?

Not at all.

What started that, again?

Oh, yeah: A number of controversial police-oriented deaths that led to riots.

[Hydesland]

Did the whole "black lives matter" movement and nationwide protests pass you by?

Not at all.

What started that, again?

Oh, yeah: A number of controversial police-oriented deaths that led to riots.

Are you sure it would have been absolutely been impossible for these movements to have started if, instead of riots that actually actively damaged the reputation of the movement, it instead was a series of large ongoing protests and civil disobedience (which it actually was for much of the time, and still got major coverage)?

[Geilinor]

We already know that many people aren't happy. We don't need the riots to tell us, because it's been apparent for months.

Really?

Where were the TV cameras during those months?

Where were the statements by the President?

Where was the national outcry for something to be done?

I'm sure you've heard of Ferguson, a town in the suburbs of St. Louis, Missouri.

[Jamzmania]

We already know that many people aren't happy. We don't need the riots to tell us, because it's been apparent for months.

Really?

Where were the TV cameras during those months?

Where were the statements by the President?

Where was the national outcry for something to be done?

To say that the plight of these communities was ignored is completely false. We've been dumping money into these communities for years and it hasn't worked. That's because government can't solve all of their problems, only they can.

[Galloism]

Really?

Where were the TV cameras during those months?

Where were the statements by the President?

Where was the national outcry for something to be done?

I'm sure you've heard of Ferguson, a town in the suburbs of St. Louis, Missouri.

Hopefully, unlike Ferguson, the DA doesn't deliberately sabotage his own case.